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Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: Ribwart on April 23, 2006, 02:04:41 PM

Title: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Ribwart on April 23, 2006, 02:04:41 PM
Well guys and gals, I'm trapped!!! I've recently come to the realization that I won't be able to get out on any flow for quite a while... :(
So I've been thinking when will be the next time I can get out of this hell I'm in and it will probably be sometime during the summer run of coho on the cap....
What I am wondering is, does anyone have any first hand experience flyfishing for these little bluebacks??? I think I would like to give it a shot, and am hoping someone here will be able to help me out with some basic setup & technique info to get me started...
I'm not a novice flyfisherman, I just usually fish stillwaters on the fly and am hoping to make the transition to rivers. I'm figuring a good start would be to practice by trying my hand at a few of these smaller bluebacks with my 5 wt before I pick up a good 8-9 wt for steelies next year...Anyone?
Thx in advance,
Rib
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Stratocaster on April 23, 2006, 03:14:42 PM
When the water rises a bit and bring some fresh fish in, wait for the water to drop, go to the cable pool, down the stairs and flyfish with muddler and minnow patterns at first and last light.  Seen some fly guys outfish the gear guys that fish off the ledge.

Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Ribwart on April 23, 2006, 03:37:02 PM
Thanks Doug, that's definitely helpful... Anyone else add anything?
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Fish Assassin on April 23, 2006, 04:29:51 PM
Olive woolly buggers work well. As Doug has said, Cable Pool is a good place to fish for them. The only problem is you have to compete with the gear fishermen there. However, this is generally not a problem when the river is low.
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Ribwart on April 23, 2006, 06:00:53 PM
I would imagine I could pick them off in other areas of the river that are less accessible too though....often fishing gear for them I have found you can find schools of them moving through other pockets of water so I'm hoping this will be a good strategy to avoid crowds and keep my flyline from having mysterious and spontaneous pencil lead from becoming attached to it... ;)
But seriously...I guess the general consensus so far is to use something more in the way of a fry or stickleback imitation, as I guess an olive wooly bugger or muddler would do nicely for that....anyone tried any maribou type flies similar to jigs for steelies... (except less weighted)? I'm curious to see if they might work and will give them a try...although I guess a wooly bugger has a maribou tail so hopefully this will pan out...
Thx for the advice guys!
Rib
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Trout Slayer on April 23, 2006, 07:36:18 PM
Probably. But why not use the real stuff instead? ;D
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: barracuda on April 23, 2006, 07:55:46 PM
We use wooly buggers (particularly black with gold beadhead and flash tied in) out this way quite sucessfully. White, pink, and olive are also good colours to try. Imagine if they work here, they should work there?

Stonefly, mayfly, and caddis patterns also have their times here though I guess the success of those would be based on what's in your waters and how big the flow you're fishin is.
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Ribwart on April 23, 2006, 07:57:42 PM
Thx 'cuda
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Spudcote on April 23, 2006, 09:01:54 PM
Hey Rib,

I'll be back in Van next week (May 3rd), and am looking to get out on the water, I have no car, so the Cap is one of the only options for me.

I've also been interested in fly-fishing the Cap, would you be interested in meeting up on the river some time ?

Have a lightish fly rig I've been meaning to get out for a while.
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Ribwart on April 23, 2006, 09:29:17 PM
Hey Spud, yeah that'd be great only I'm still going to be out of the loop for a while, til the last week of may, (at least),Maybe then I'll be able to get out there....like I said at the start, "I'm Trapped" for a bit....would be great to meet up with ya though, maybe a little later in the run eh? Need to rearrange my life so I can fish all the time and never worry about anything else ever again...LoL wouldn't that be nice? Maybe you'll be in town during the summer?
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Spudcote on April 23, 2006, 09:50:57 PM
I work up North during the Summer, ship leaves on the 18th, up there until September, then back to the Island.

I'll probably be spending a bit of time on the flow until I leave, if you happen to be out and see a shaggy kid with a Loomis hat, I'll most likely be tossing a Loop rod around (always carry the rod tube with "Loop" on the side), come by and have a few casts, show me how it's done  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Jonny 5 on April 24, 2006, 06:37:47 AM
Another vote for wolley buggers.  I like olive on the cap as I have luck with olive streamers in the cap.  Bead head, and sinktip or full sink line,  but I just use a sinking leader. 

I can't imagine why a coho would eat any insect, nymph or dry, but you never know what trout is lurking in the cap too  ;) ;)


We use wooly buggers (particularly black with gold beadhead and flash tied in) out this way quite sucessfully. White, pink, and olive are also good colours to try. Imagine if they work here, they should work there?

Stonefly, mayfly, and caddis patterns also have their times here though I guess the success of those would be based on what's in your waters and how big the flow you're fishin is.
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Coho Cody on April 24, 2006, 05:02:32 PM
as most people have already said, the cable pool can be a very productive place to chuck a fly. if you can wade in low water and cast your line right against the  wall on the other side of the tailout with an olive wooly bugger, you should do quite well when the fish are moving through ;)
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Ribwart on April 24, 2006, 08:19:55 PM
Thanks CC...that's one of the spots I definitely had in mind....I also have a few similar tailouts and a small pool picked out in the middle sections of the canyon, and a couple of spots in the lower river picked out. I think it will come down to a whole lot of patience and good timing on the fish moving in to be successful, but I'm willing to put the time in and feel I can get a few here and there if I work at it....and as I'm not getting out for a while I have loads of time to prepare and think it through before I get to try....URGHHH  >:(
Thanks for all the input guys, much appreciated!
Rib
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: whitetip on April 24, 2006, 10:33:55 PM
hey I would love to hook up with some one that is will to so some fly fishing on the cap I am close by so just, let me know if u would like to hook some where on the river
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: marmot on April 25, 2006, 11:56:37 AM
is there even ROOM for two flyfishermen to hit the cable pool effectively with all the gear chuckers that are bound to be there? 
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Fish Assassin on April 25, 2006, 12:14:50 PM
is there even ROOM for two flyfishermen to hit the cable pool effectively with all the gear chuckers that are bound to be there? 

No, but that doesn't seem the faze the guys there. Sharpen up your roll cast.
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Ribwart on April 25, 2006, 12:18:45 PM
There are some other pools that I think could be equally good....not everyone is willing to hike it into some of the more isolated pools...Should be possible to find a spot or two to yourself....then when you see someone approaching just make a bunch of erratic really dangerous looking casts and I'm sure they'll change their minds about moving in to the spot!  ;D

Sounds good whitetip, I won't be out there for a while, but I'll keep ya posted...
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: sliverbullet on April 25, 2006, 04:04:21 PM
i think i might give the cap a try on the fly as welll
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: younggun on June 29, 2006, 01:30:47 PM
I fished the lower river for them did ok, use flashy bait fish patterns, or egg patterns, I used a 6wt and it worked just fine, a floating line with a sink tip will do just fine. Fast short stripps will get there attention, they're just out of the ocean so they're still into herring and needlefish!
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Nicole on July 18, 2006, 03:51:25 PM
Hi,

How many Kms up from the mouth is the first decent holding water? I don't mind a bit of walking...

Cheers,
Nicole
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Fish Assassin on July 18, 2006, 04:16:12 PM
Half a kilometre
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: Nicole on July 18, 2006, 04:27:58 PM
cool thanks! Gonna go and check that out as soon as my breathables are fixed!

Cheers,
Nicole
Title: Re: Flyfishing for coho in the cap....
Post by: younggun on August 14, 2006, 01:07:44 PM
its me again went fishing for them this week the water is dead low so i had to go down pretty much to the border between crown land and native! There were to fish in the run a dark spring and a silver coho! I stuck on the biggest flashiest most aggressive fly i could find in my collection and gave it a whorl!  After about 10 cast the spring was getting agitated and i didn't want to hook him so i put on my favourite fly out of all the other ones i have!  A squamish poacher! And BANG!!!  The coho was on!  It was a 4lb silver beauty, just big enough for dinner!  Time to go home now!

I fished the poacher on a floating line! dead drift, right in front of his face i watched the line and the fish at the same time and i noticed that the moment that he took the fly (all he did was open his mouth and close, no movement) the line didn't move, but i struck and he was hooked!