Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: chris gadsden on October 29, 2014, 07:45:50 PM
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http://youtu.be/on4B-YC1R7o
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Crazy! Why is the highway bridge not the boundary for boats?
It's just not necessary to come any further.
Just because you can is not a valid reason >:(
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Saw a full size tree come down the river around 2 pm, hope that guy still
Wasn't out. It would have left a good hole
In his boat
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Nice looking boat, I have seen many boats up the river even as far as Wilson Rd, have heard of jet boats that have made higher up tho.
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Folding lawn chair there as well.
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Maybe he is lost and mixed up river from down river.
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Sure why not? High water is the time to run a jet up the Vedder. No problems - no laws broken. Looks like it would have been fun. I've been in the canal before when a boat has gone by - it pisses you off sure enough but its a multi-recreation river so you just suck it up.
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Last winter I was fishing the tailout of a run with a sharp corner when a jet boat came around the corner.
It had to be going fast to make it up the rapids from the previous run.
With the rapids below me I couldn't hear it coming so I had no opportunity to get out of the way. With the boat's speed required to make it up the rapids and the sharp corner they had no opportunity to avoid me.
It passed me at full speed within about 4 feet though of course it wasn't the swamping I was concerned about.
Certainly negligent behavior, especially in the fall with the large number of people.
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FOC was doing jet boat operator training on the lower river last spring.
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One thing we have to keep in mind is like forests our rivers are multi use.
I see no issue with someone running a jet boat on a river if they are operating it appropriately and not causing harm to the ecosystem.
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I agree that there are multi-uses but that doesn't mean that they work well together in the same place. Especially motorized vs. non-motorized. That's why most of these don't usually take place in the same area.
And of course it usually impacts the smaller guy more. Just ask a hiker what they think of ATV's all around them, or a backcountry skier how they feel about having a bunch of snowmobiles around them.
Similarly,I'm not sure it makes sense to have a single jet boat ripping up a heavily bank fished river.
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Last winter I was fishing the tailout of a run with a sharp corner when a jet boat came around the corner.
It had to be going fast to make it up the rapids from the previous run.
With the rapids below me I couldn't hear it coming so I had no opportunity to get out of the way. With the boat's speed required to make it up the rapids and the sharp corner they had no opportunity to avoid me.
It passed me at full speed within about 4 feet though of course it wasn't the swamping I was concerned about.
Certainly negligent behavior, especially in the fall with the large number of people.
Most likely a good reason to not have power boats above the Freeway Bridge, lots of other areas to boat in.
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If one guy's negligent behaviour is enough to cause this call to close boating on the vedder above the highway bridge, I would hope you are already calling to close fishing at the same boundary...
I don't see this the same way as a number of you, and most likely will get flack for this.
The smaller guy is not the most affected. It is the responsible jet boat operators who get displaced onto other systems. And frankly, they do not have the same number of systems available to them. In fact it is a lot less.
In response to asking the hiker about ATV's, the hiker will most likely not be in the same area as an ATV. Why? Because ATV's are restricted to road infrastructure (logging roads etc.) and they don't have the same ability to go up slopes like hikers do. For example I would love to see an ATV try to get up to Lindeman Lake.
The only time it usually impacts the smaller guy more
Is the backcountry skier with having a bunch of snowmobiles around them because snow is easier to move those machines over.
Now another thing to remember is their window to operate on the vedder is a lot shorter than the fishing season. The issue is as fisherman we often feel entitled to the river. I never love hitting the rubber hatch on a river, or come to a run and see people swimming through it.
But its not worth getting worked up over for the few amount of days I run into it, and usually I can find a spot that isn't occupied or I wait for the tubers to float by.
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http://youtu.be/tGNY_yZEgco
These guys are by tamahi
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honestly I don't see a problem with running boats on the Vedder, but I can think of many restrictions that should be in place. I have a huge problem with boats trolling back and forth from the mouth of the sumas to the hi-way bridge during lower water conditions and peak run times (sept to nov). Its stupid to have power boats cruising by trolling in 2 feet of water spooking all the fish that are moving upstream with the tides and ruining the bite for shore fishers in certain areas. When the water is high and the actual fishing conditions are poor or limited like right now with all this rain I think that it is okay. honestly I think a ban during certain months ei. august to nov when the water is lower and the crowds are high with the exception of perhaps a water height minimum restriction for all months would be beneficial. I like going out in the boat in june and july up the vedder as well as early steelhead nov-jan season when the water is higher. As long as people respect each other there is no reason why you shouldn't be aloud. its the few yahoos that ruin it for every one. p.s the highest iv ever heard a boat running is bell acres area and it was a family member during freshet conditions 8)
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Today two boats were running the Vedder River, one behind each other.They were by Lickman.
Where they looking for floats after the recent high water? ;D
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Chris. You don't have them all by now? Floats I mean
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There was a fisherman rescued yesterday out of the river and 911 was called. Sounds like he was pulled up my rescuers on shore, but I imagine that a call was put out to any boat in the area to assist the rescue. They probably did a sweep of the river to close out the rescue. Just connecting some dots, this may, or may not, have been related.
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Never once did I even consider jets on the river to be there for a rescue. Wow, I guess that would make sense being a river within a boating community.
I hope the rescue was a success with a happy ending. Any word what happened? Did a bank give out or did the fisherman fall during wading? Or did he just get in to far downstream with no way to get back? I see the word "rescue" and not "recovery" - so that's a good sign.
High water fishing is definitely not my favorite - I actually opt not to venture out during high water anymore.
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From FB "I actually saw the guy getting swept down stream near the railroad by blue heron park !:( he was able to hold on to some branches. luckily i was able to run to the other side and pull him out! two other ladys were there who called 911 and made sure he was alright."
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from what i have been informed that boat was looking for an individual that had fallen in. S&R was out aswell as rcmp.
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Glad to hear this fisherman made it out alive. Lots of nasty submerged trees which have fallen into the river make quite a trap for a fallen fisherman.
So learning that the boats were S&R and RCMP should put the boats on the river debate to rest.
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Glad to hear this fisherman made it out alive. Lots of nasty submerged trees which have fallen into the river make quite a trap for a fallen fisherman.
So learning that the boats were S&R and RCMP should put the boats on the river debate to rest.
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