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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: fishtruck on December 02, 2018, 03:01:10 PM

Title: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: fishtruck on December 02, 2018, 03:01:10 PM
I recently had a chat with someone who said they used 20'-30' leaders when they fish( drifting with yarn) for Springs in the Fraser. Now, I don't have any experience fishing the Fraser, would that be usual or accepted practise or technique for this type of fishery? Was told that they fished for red springs in the summer. I'm not trying to call them out if it's not ethical, just trying to understand.
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: psd1179 on December 02, 2018, 10:50:01 PM
It is unusual. I doubt the rig catch fish efficiently. When the weight stuck at the rod tip there is still 20' line out :)
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: cdjk123 on December 03, 2018, 08:30:44 AM
That's a snagging leader.

When the visibility of the fraser is usually only a couple feet, you can see why a 20 foot leader is redundant.
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: typhoon on December 03, 2018, 08:33:42 AM
It is unusual. I doubt the rig catch fish efficiently. When the weight stuck at the rod tip there is still 20' line out :)

?? Flossing is extremely effective at snagging fish in the mouth/head.
The pros will tell you that a 30’ leader hooks way more fish than a 10’ leader.
It’s also why you see them running up the bank to land a fish.
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: fishtruck on December 03, 2018, 09:20:27 AM
Thanks for clarifying it for me. In their defense, they did openly admit they are flossers. And the way they made it sound it was normal and that if they could they would use 40' leaders. But it does sound like something that I'm not interested in doing. I rather not catch a fish then use that technique.
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: fishtruck on December 03, 2018, 09:23:10 AM
I just notice that both Aaron and typhoon both use the term "snagging". Coincidence? I think not. Thanks again
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: DanL on December 03, 2018, 09:46:54 AM
They way our current regs are worded, flossing is technically not snagging, but there are other jurisdictions where it's considered snagging if the fish did not willing take the presentation into it's mouth.

As someone said above, if you need a 30' leader in water with one foot of visibility, you know exactly what is going on.
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: wildmanyeah on December 03, 2018, 12:03:46 PM
So many flossing/ Beading/ yarn threads this year
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: BBarley on December 03, 2018, 05:40:24 PM
Typical of a sockeye year on the Fraser ;D ;D ;D

Honestly though, not to stir the pot or anything, but I couldn’t fathom using a 30ft leader, even 20ft seems completely egregious. Considering the abuse the line takes with “that fishery” why use any more line than necessary?!?
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: cdjk123 on December 03, 2018, 07:48:17 PM
Honestly, how do you even cast a 30 foot leader???
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: adriaticum on December 03, 2018, 08:01:14 PM
Flossing is bad.
Except when it's for sockeye.
That's a food fishery  ::)
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: RalphH on December 04, 2018, 06:58:57 AM
Honestly, how do you even cast a 30 foot leader???

try naked chironomid fishing
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: clarki on December 04, 2018, 08:47:49 AM
try naked chironomid fishing

True, similar, but with BB'ing from shore and casting a 2-3 oz of lead you don't have the ability to false cast or to lay your line out behind the boat.

And, yes, I will take the bait. I tried naked chironomid fishing once but I got my shmegel wrapped up in the 30 ft leader and sun burnt my tushka.
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: dobrolub on December 04, 2018, 11:10:01 AM
Casting 30' leader isn't as hard as some might think... Just use 40' rod.
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: RalphH on December 04, 2018, 06:17:11 PM
What's a shmegel? Is it a dog breed like a Beagle? Please explain diagrammatically.
Title: Re: Leader length used for Springs in the Fraser( Drifting)
Post by: clarki on December 05, 2018, 04:41:36 PM
What's a shmegel? Is it a dog breed like a Beagle? Please explain diagrammatically.

To explain it diagrammatically would only serve to illustrate my shortcomings, artstically and otherwise.