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Novabonker

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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #60 on: November 08, 2010, 02:27:58 PM »

My prescriptions are fine (according to my optometrist)  :D

You could be right about the debate idea. When you ask a question and then answer it, debate is rather pointless.  ???   

Speaking of debate, I'm still waiting for a response from Gordo's email.I invited him to respond. I guess that email will come when my inaccuracies are pointed out eh AF?. ;D ;) ;D
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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #61 on: November 08, 2010, 03:23:27 PM »

I think you may have it backwards....  ???  The trend is towards socialism rather than towards capitalism.  
That's American Tea Party rhetoric AF........where "socalist" is the new "communist". The real roots of that movement are very scary....

Governments are elected by the majority but they have to govern and provide for all citizens and I'm proud that in Canada our governments have generally met that test. And it's good to apply some business principles to their practices but when government leaders start to act like they are running a private company for the benefit of themselves and a select few, it's time for the boot.
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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #62 on: November 08, 2010, 03:30:22 PM »

Campbelll fiscally responsible -  ;D ;D ;D ;D

HILARIOUS!!

The 2000/01 fiscal year ended with Victoria collecting tax revenues of $14.3 billion, while the 2010/11 budget calls for tax receipts of $17.4 billion (since boosted to $18.1 billion in the first quarterly report). The composition of taxation revenue changed considerably over the 10-year period.

Two of the biggest sources of tax receipts -- personal-income tax and corporate-income tax -- were surprisingly flat over the decade, given population growth of about 500,000 and inflation. The reason? The many and on-going tax cuts unveiled by Campbell since 2001.

PIT revenues slipped from $5.963 billion to $5.861 billion, while corporate-income tax revenues dropped from just over $1 billion to $847 million for the current year. (Again, the first quarterly report boosted the latter figure to $1.5 billion.)

Tax revenues from retail sales rose from $3.6 billion in 2000/01, to an expected $5.2 billion in 2010/11. The former figure was generated by the provincial sales tax (officially known as the Social Service Tax) alone, while the latter is an amalgam of the PST and the new (and much-hated) Harmonized Sales Tax, which replaced the PST on July 1.

One levy, the corporation capital tax, was whittled away to nothing under Campbell's stewardship, while a new one, the carbon tax, was introduced in 2008. The former generated $459 million in 2000/01, and zero in the current year; the latter is expected to produce $727 million in Campbell's last year in office.

The biggest gain in tax receipts over the decade was due to world-wide low interest rates, which sparked a housing boom (and bubble) in much of the western world. Property-transfer revenues totaled $262 million in our base year of 2000/01, and are expected to hit $900 million at the end of the current fiscal period.

In total, Victoria's tax receipts grew by just $3.1 billion (or $3.8 billion, based on the first quarterly report) while Gordon Campbell was premier. As a proportion of B.C.'s economy, provincial tax revenues fell from 10.8 per cent of gross domestic product (GDP), to about 8.9 per cent.

Given that the 2010/11 budget estimates that B.C.'s GDP this year will hit $196.3 billion, the annual revenue lost to tax cuts is about $3.7 billion.

In the 1980s, Social Credit governments led by Bill Bennett and Bill Vander Zalm received three special equalization payments from Ottawa. Bennett got the first such payment, for $139 million, in 1983/84, and a second for $35 million in 1984/85. Vander Zalm obtained $360,000 in 1986/87.

The NDP garnered a single equalization transfer, of $125 million, in 1999/2000.

Gordon Campbell's BC Liberals, in contrast, received five such payments: $158 million in 2001/02; $543 million in 2002/03; $979 million in 2004/05; $590 million in 2005/06; and $459 million in 2006/07. (So huge were these transfers, that B.C. actually had to re-pay an overpayment of $330 million in 2003/04.)

The New Democrats got a total of $125 million in equalization; Gordon Campbell's BC Liberals, a total of $2.4 billion.
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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #63 on: November 08, 2010, 04:42:13 PM »

That clearly goes to prove we must vote for the Liberals. LUV THOSE TRANSFER PAYMENTS.
 :) ;) :D ;D
Campbelll fiscally responsible -  ;D ;D ;D ;D

HILARIOUS!!

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The New Democrats got a total of $125 million in equalization; Gordon Campbell's BC Liberals, a total of $2.4 billion.
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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #64 on: November 08, 2010, 04:56:32 PM »

what got my attention right away with this gov, is back a few years ago when they introduced pay parking at public and provincial parks and then proceeded to cut park staff significantly.  they make more money, and some how have to lay off staff and cut funding, it should be the other way around...???
it might not seem like a big deal but this sort of thing happened all over the board in all sectors (especially public).. 

it's also embarrasing that B.C. HAS the lowest minimum wage and the highest child poverty rate in all of CANADA. :-\ that has to be fixed.
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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #65 on: November 08, 2010, 07:32:42 PM »

My prescriptions are fine (according to my optometrist)  :D

You could be right about the debate idea. When you ask a question and then answer it, debate is rather pointless.  ???   

What I mean, AF, is that if you believe that social programs should be stripped, and we should each be responsible for our own, I really have nothing to say to you or anyone else of that mindset. 

So do tell, how do you feel about your money going to public funded social programs like education and healthcare? 
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« Reply #66 on: November 08, 2010, 07:44:11 PM »

What I mean, AF, is that if you believe that social programs should be stripped, and we should each be responsible for our own, I really have nothing to say to you or anyone else of that mindset. 


So you're saying that unless I agree with your views, you would rather not discuss it?  Let's leave it at that then........   ::)
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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #67 on: November 08, 2010, 08:14:37 PM »

Geez AF - I guess you must feel like Gordo now.. ;D
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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #68 on: November 08, 2010, 08:20:07 PM »


AHA !!!   

Now we see where AF is coming from.

 ;D Bluesteele ;D
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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #69 on: November 08, 2010, 08:30:19 PM »

I wouldn't mind having an intelligent debate with you all .........

However, it seems the best you can come up with is "I don't want to discuss it" and "you must feel like Gordo" and "are you a politician?"   ???  ???
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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #70 on: November 08, 2010, 08:56:42 PM »

But I gave you a bevy of stuff- facts that should get a little sunlight from the "dark side"', but you skate right past. Ya tells me eyem ill rong, butt ewe doughn't till mee y bye.(Transcribed from ancient Newfinese)
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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #71 on: November 08, 2010, 09:09:42 PM »

Here are some numbers pertaining to Gordito the banditos wonderful fiscal performance.

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2010/11/08/CampbellPraise/

Maybe AF or some of his 9%  friends  can refute these numbers with some sort of Liberal spin tactic. LOL   ;D

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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #72 on: November 08, 2010, 09:45:24 PM »

Here are some numbers pertaining to Gordito the banditos wonderful fiscal performance.


I see you and Novabonker get your opinions from reading the same left wing Tyee articles.

I would bet that when you're standing in the grocery store line reading the tabloids that you believe everything written in them as welll........  ;D  ;D
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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #73 on: November 08, 2010, 09:48:38 PM »

Here are some numbers pertaining to Gordito the banditos wonderful fiscal performance.

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2010/11/08/CampbellPraise/

Maybe AF or some of his 9%  friends  can refute these numbers with some sort of Liberal spin tactic. LOL   ;D


It about time someone told it as it is. When he took over in 2001 from the NDP 1.2  billion surplus now leaving with a 1.2 billion deficit. Also note all the transfer payments he got from Ottawa and the DNP very little. I think AF will have some work to do now, after he reads the link you have posted. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Cambell has stepped down!!!
« Reply #74 on: November 08, 2010, 10:05:51 PM »

I see you and Novabonker get your opinions from reading the same left wing Tyee articles.

Why wouldnt a fisherman get their info from "the Tyee"  ???

I would bet that when you're standing in the grocery store line reading the tabloids that you believe everything written in them as welll........  ;D  ;D


LOL  You know I've always thought that batboy was real.  ;)

http://weeklyworldnews.com/sports/24054/brock-lesnar-vs-bat-boy/

LMAO

Cmon debate those numbers. 1.2 b + when Gordon walks in the door and 1.2 billion MINUS when he walks out.
Really quite simple. Maybe we just have to wait for the HST to balance things out???
Or perhaps some extra dough will be coming our way from Accenture/BC Rail or perhaps even from some small ROR project.



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