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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: chris gadsden on August 10, 2011, 04:55:38 PM
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Sockeye opens this Saturday, Sunday and Monday for a starter. In a rush to get to a meeting tonight with First Nations re fish farm issue so check the FOC notices for more info.
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All I've seen are Tidal Fraser openings. Am I missing a notice about the non-tidal portion?
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All I've seen are Tidal Fraser openings. Am I missing a notice about the non-tidal portion?
Maybe not up yet but got it from Frank who was on the conference call this afternoon. heading to a meeting so can not check for you,late already :-[ phone a sports shop.,
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maybe in the tidal fraser.
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The only opening so far is a tidal with a retention of (2) sockeye
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Just got a call and seems that the information was misunderstood and no announcement to an opening is forthcoming at this time. A deepest apology has been extended.
But dont put that green wool too far out of reach as there will be some sort of opportunity at some point Im sure. ;D ;D ;D
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Wife & yours "truly" rode bikes thru Steveston & 1st rode by a CBC NEWS truck & the reporter told me the story was going on air LIVE that there is a sockeye openning for the commercial fisheries...
As we rode alittle more another news truck (CTV) was spotted. Obviously to annouce the same news topic.
Nice high tide in the evening...seen two guys casting & retriving over at Gerry Park.
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On the news this morning it spoke about a 3 day opening for sockeye ,is this opening for tidal or non tidal ????
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http://news.sympatico.cbc.ca/local/bc/sockeye_opening_criticized_as_too_short/f68fce89
Found this while hard at work today surfing the web.
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On the news this morning it spoke about a 3 day opening for sockeye ,is this opening for tidal or non tidal ????
Tidal.
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FN0704-RECREATIONAL - Salmon - Sockeye retention in Southern B.C. Waters - Amendment to FN0694 - Additional open areas and non-retention in Areas 24 to 27.
Fisheries & Oceans Operations Center - FN0704
Sent August 10, 2011 at 1041
Amendment to FN0694: Additional open areas and non-retention in Areas 24 to
27. The full text of the notice follows below.
The current status of the Fraser River sockeye return provides for recreational
sockeye retention opportunities in most Southern B.C. marine waters.
Effective immediately until further notice, in the following Areas, the daily
limit for recreationally caught sockeye is two (2) per day:
- Areas 11 and 111;
- Area 12;
- Area 13 (Johnstone Strait);
- Areas 14, 15, 17, 18 and 19 (Strait of Georgia);
- Area 20 (Juan de Fuca Strait);
- Areas 21, 121 and 123 to 127 (West Coast of Vancouver Island).
Note: Area 23 (Barkley Sound and Alberni Inlet) is open to retention of Somass
sockeye (refer to FN0447).
- Area 28 (Howe Sound, Burrard Inlet and Indian Arm);
- Area 29 (Subareas 29-1 to 29-5). Note that opportunities in the remainder of
Area 29 including the tidal portions of the Fraser River will be announced by a
separate fishery notice.
Sockeye retention is not permitted in the following areas:
- Area 16 remains closed to sockeye retention in order to protect Sakinaw Lake
sockeye. It is anticipated that Subareas 16-19 to 21 (Sabine Channel) could
open to sockeye retention in early August and will be confirmed by fishery
notice;
- Area 22 (Nitinat Lake);
- Areas 24 to Areas 27 inclusive;
- Subarea 29-8 (Boundary Bay).
Variation Order No. 2011-384
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I can't find any FOC notices regarding a non tidal opening on the Fraser for Saturday to MOnday.Don't wan to go out there and get ticketed for illegal fishing. Hope someone here can clarify this situation.
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According to Fred's Tackle website, the sockeye fishery officially opens this Saturday for all:
http://www.fredstackle.com/Fishing-Report_ep_77.html
I still can't find a DFO notice anywhere, so I'll err on the side of caution.
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According to Fred's Tackle website, the sockeye fishery officially opens this Saturday for all:
http://www.fredstackle.com/Fishing-Report_ep_77.html
I still can't find a DFO notice anywhere, so I'll err on the side of caution.
Definitely do not go out until it is posted, which I would expect by tomorrow.
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http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=134913&ID=recreational
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Great!!! For sure this weekend is open officially.
Anybody know pegleg or scale bar is good for BB now? Have not been there for almost 1 year.
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its open,notice posted.
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http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=134913&ID=recreational
;D
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Is that a gong I hear ringing?
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Great!!! For sure this weekend is open officially.
Anybody know pegleg or scale bar is good for BB now? Have not been there for almost 1 year.
Peg Leg - not accessible due to high water.
Scale Bar - good luck fishing with 200 other people on that short stretch of river.
Wherever you decide to fish for sockeye, PLEASE wear a PFD while flossing your sockeye. The Fraser is treacherous at the best of times.
I can just see unsuspecting individuals floating downstream because they waded too deep.
Search and rescue will be busy this weekend.
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Thanks 2:40 for getting that up there as I was on the road with a First Nations meeting at Hope from 6 to 9. When I posted it I was told notice was coming down but of course it is never official to the notice is posted. Sorry for any inconvenience. At Lytton now with a brief fishing report shortly.
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One thing to Note:
The current status of the Fraser River sockeye return provides for limited
recreational sockeye retention opportunities at this time in the non-tidal
waters of the Fraser River in Region 2 due to a small total allowable catch and
uncertainty in the estimated returns.
Looks like the move to limit recreational sector access to sockeye in the same way Halibut is being managed has come to our doorstep even sooner than I expected...
:-[
Nicole
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Screw the British Riots! here comes Sockeye opening
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it will be interesting to see how well anglersdo this year given the extremely high water levels and the smaller run size...
And with peg leg unfishable where do you think everyone will show up...yikes
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Wear your lifejacket.
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it will be interesting to see how well anglersdo this year given the extremely high water levels and the smaller run size...
And with peg leg unfishable where do you think everyone will show up...yikes
Absolutely correct. We were out on Tuesday and the bar space is very limited. I expect the success rates to be very low, especially with a short commercial and weekend native openings. Many people who fished sockeye for the first time last year will be highly disappointed this year.
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Gonna be some crazy crowds this weekend not even sure if it's worth it but probably go up anyway and jooin the madness :P tight lines peeps
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I think it'll be disappointing, at least if the water level was lower there would be more gong shows at different spots, now it'll be one huge gong show concentrated at a few spots, and all the guys who fished
Sockeye last year - like you said for the first time will be disappointed - which will make the atmosphere that much more violent and "meat holey" - I just hope noone pulls a knife this year or tries anything stupid
As for me I'll be happy if I take home one, I won't be able to go all three days so I'll have my fingers crossed for a nice 6lb doe.
I asked a lady at work this morning if she was going to try for some this weekend and she said "no. I'll just buy native fish for $10 each."
I told her that's not legal and to Go buy from commercial guys at steveston if she wanted to buy her fish.
She said if she didn't buy it someone else would
I almost choked on a hashbrown.
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Absolutely correct. We were out on Tuesday and the bar space is very limited. I expect the success rates to be very low, especially with a short commercial and weekend native openings. Many people who fished sockeye for the first time last year will be highly disappointed this year.
In as much as commercial & native openings can seriously affect sport catch on the Fraser, where are these commercial & native openings posted? Generally if I see the boats working around Port Mann Bridge, 2 or 3 days later, you will be fishing a vacuum (fish-wise) on the Fraser bars. So to save our hard earned dollars on high cost of gas (and time with the family), we need to know these openings to avoid fishless trips.
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we need to know these openings to avoid fishless trips.
Gotta love the MEAT mentality! LOL!
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To true Milo.....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sjY_OHZiHk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sjY_OHZiHk)
Woo Hoo
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Gotta love the MEAT mentality! LOL!
Don't you ever get tired of complaining about this time of year.
The guy wants to know of commercial openings so he does not waste his time.
Look at all the money that gets dumped into the valley at this time of year.
It is legal.
Get over it.
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Fisheries notices for all three sectors can be found at http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm
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Fish (sockeye) taken by FN fishers are sold openly in the LML and even advertised on Craig list for sale ranging from $10.00 to $14.00. Is this legal? If it is not why is DFO not investigating it?
I understand FN are only allowed to take fish for food and ceremonial purpose.
A friend told me one can buy fish cleaned and vacuum packed for $14.00 from FN fishers located in Hope.
Maybe someone here in this forum can help clear the air on this issue. Thank you.
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D.F.O is powerless to stop the illegal selling of salmon by natives because the department has been slashed to the bone.They dont have the manpower or money to investigate these allegations, so instead turn a blind eye to the problem.For as long as people buy from the natives they will continue to sell.I have never bought from the natives and never will,but i know people who do. Im sure everyone knows of someone who buys from the natives.This is a problem that will never go away.Our fragile fisheries gets abused by all user groups including the sporties. :'(
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Even when DFO had the "power" and arrests were made, they never ended up being convicted and they never will. Now that the DFO is skeleton they are too afraid to approach them - the poachers and sellers that is.
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D.F.O is powerless to stop the illegal selling of salmon by natives because the department has been slashed to the bone.They dont have the manpower or money to investigate these allegations, so instead turn a blind eye to the problem.For as long as people buy from the natives they will continue to sell.I have never bought from the natives and never will,but i know people who do. Im sure everyone knows of someone who buys from the natives.This is a problem that will never go away.Our fragile fisheries gets abused by all user groups including the sporties. :'(
Our fisheries is not as fragile as the media makes it out to be. Certain runs are fragile but I'm sure you know the Adams is alive and strong as well is the chilko, birkenhead, stuarts, pitt, ect....
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Don't you ever get tired of complaining about this time of year.
The guy wants to know of commercial openings so he does not waste his time.
Look at all the money that gets dumped into the valley at this time of year.
It is legal.
Get over it.
I am not complaining.
I love sockeye season. I get to fill up the freezer with good protein for cheap.
All it takes is one phone call to the friendly first nations neighbor.
Gutted, cleaned and delivered...10 bucks a piece.
Nothing like helping our FN brethren make an extra buck or two as their life is tough as it is.
And I don't need to browse internet forums to learn about commercial openings. :D
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I am not complaining.
I love sockeye season. I get to fill up the freezer with good protein for cheap.
All it takes is one phone call to the friendly first nations neighbor.
Gutted, cleaned and delivered...10 bucks a piece.
Nothing like helping our FN brethren make an extra buck or two as their life is tough as it is.
And I don't need to browse internet forums to learn about commercial openings. :D
Are you admitting that you illegally buy salmon from the natives??
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Are you admitting that you illegally buy salmon from the natives??
Nothing illegal about it. The gentleman in question has a quota that he can dispose of as he pleases.
And so do many other FN fishers.
Keep bashing the FNs without having the slightest idea about how things work.
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Keep bashing the FNs without having the slightest idea about how things work.
Milo, haven't you figured out that that is how things work around here? People post opinion, stated as fact, with no evidence to back it up. That's what makes these forums so entertaining.
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Nothing illegal about it. The gentleman in question has a quota that he can dispose of as he pleases.
And so do many other FN fishers.
Keep bashing the FNs without having the slightest idea about how things work.
So your saying there is no illegal selling of salmon going by First Nations people ???
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Im a bit suprised by your comments Milo... Nothing like helping our FN brethren make an extra buck or two as their life is tough as it is.
Im willing to bet the bulk of cash goes to 5% of your "FN brethren" while the other 95% get nothing, there are "Classes" in all societies, your fooling yourself if you actually buy what your saying. IMHO ;)
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One thing to Note:
The current status of the Fraser River sockeye return provides for limited
recreational sockeye retention opportunities at this time in the non-tidal
waters of the Fraser River in Region 2 due to a small total allowable catch and
uncertainty in the estimated returns.
Looks like the move to limit recreational sector access to sockeye in the same way Halibut is being managed has come to our doorstep even sooner than I expected...
:-[
Nicole
Very scary indeed, that they are already using the term TAC in salmon fishery notices. I really hope DFO does not make the same mistake twice and like halibut, start handing out quota to commercial on what is a common property.
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So your saying there is no illegal selling of salmon going by First Nations people ???
No I am not. Why are you putting words in my mouth that I haven't said?
Stop making silly inferences and assumptions.
Read what is written and don't look for hidden meanings because there aren't any.
Not all FN caught sockeye sold out there is illegal. If you buy it off the back of a pickup truck parked by the river in the August sun, then it probably is illegal. But if you know whom to ask, they will lead you to perfectly legitimate sockeye for sale caught in FN nets.
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Im a bit suprised by your comments Milo... Nothing like helping our FN brethren make an extra buck or two as their life is tough as it is.
Im willing to bet the bulk of cash goes to 5% of your "FN brethren" while the other 95% get nothing, there are "Classes" in all societies, your fooling yourself if you actually buy what your saying. IMHO
Let's agree to disagree on this one, bud. ;)
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Nothing illegal about it. The gentleman in question has a quota that he can dispose of as he pleases.
And so do many other FN fishers.
Keep bashing the FNs without having the slightest idea about how things work.
I don't know where you got from my comment that I was "bashing" FN's.
The FN's have only had food and ceremonial openings. While they can "dispose of those fish as they please, it is illegal for them to exchange those fish for cash. You stated that you can get fish from your friendly FN neighbor for 10 bucks a piece.... That would be illegal.
My response was merely to protect you from posting an admission of guilt. But I guess it's too late for that... ::)
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Dude! I would not buy from a native even if it was the last dam salmon on earth! Thats how strongly i feel about this topic.FNs have it tough ???
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Very scary indeed, that they are already using the term TAC in salmon fishery notices. I really hope DFO does not make the same mistake twice and like halibut, start handing out quota to commercial on what is a common property.
I've understood that there was always a TAC on sockeye of approximately 3% of the catch. That's why I have trouble understanding why all the uproar about the halibut fishery where the sporties get 12% of the TAC.
While I agree the fisheries are a common property, how would the millions of Canadians across Canada that don't fish, get access to this resource if it wasn't for the allocation given to to the commercial sector??
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Dude! I would not buy from a native even if it was the last dam salmon on earth! Thats how strongly i feel about this topic.FNs have it tough ???
Yes, very tough.
So tough in fact that I am thankful not to be one of them.
But what would you know and care. You can't see beyond the sockeye. ::)
But in case there is a hint of intellectual curiosity in you, start here:
http://www.socialjustice.org/index.php?page=aboriginal-issues
My response was merely to protect you from posting an admission of guilt. But I guess it's too late for that... ::)
Thanks for worrying about me.
Typing stuff on an internet forum is not admission of guilt.
It wouldn't fly in court.
Can you say for sure I am Milo?
Are you positive I even eat sockeye?
Have you seen me buying sockeye from FNs?
You are taking this a bit too seriously.
But I thank you, it sure makes for an entertaining morning on an otherwise dull day at work. :)
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Dude.This is the last comment im going to make on this topic.Here goes...I see what goes on in this town(Chilliwack). Wake up! This is 2011! No one user group should get special priviledges! Status cards/Tax ememptions/Umlimited fishing opurtunities etc,etc.Get a job and earn a living and pay taxes like the rest of us. Oh, oh, oh, will they let us sporties keep a fish this yr...gee i dont know...were the last user group to fish, yet we generate the most income for the economy.Give me a break!!!!
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You guys need to do some research before slamming Milo.
There different types of First Nations Fisheries including Communal and Economic Opportunities.
There are some First Nations members that hold Commercial Licenses as well.
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You guys need to do some research before slamming Milo.
There different types of First Nations Fisheries including Communal and Economic Opportunities.
There are some First Nations members that hold Commercial Licenses as well.
I totally understand the difference. Todate there have not been any economic opportunities open to FN's, only ceremonial and food fishery opportunities. It is illegal for them to sell these fish.
There are FN's, Japanese, Caucasian and other individuals that own commercial licenses. They have had openings in the ocean and in the Fraser yesterday. No one is questioning a commercial operators right to sell his fish....
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LOL........this is way to funny.can you just imagine scale bar tomoro,wonder how many fights and stabbings there will be :o . it'll make peg leg 2010 seem like a fishing spa ::) ;D
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Hey ricer, the Adams and the other systems you mentioned may be alive and well today, but we all know how fragile and precious our fishery resources are...
The Squamish was 'alive and we'll on august 4, 2005 but on august 6 2005 every last spawner was wiped out by a train spill containing caustic soda...that river will never recover to the way it was before
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Gotta love the MEAT mentality! LOL!
Glad I am on the Thompson my friend. ;D ;D ;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sjY_OHZiHk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sjY_OHZiHk)
Woo Hoo
Thanks for posting gets my views up.
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Hey ricer, the Adams and the other systems you mentioned may be alive and well today, but we all know how fragile and precious our fishery resources are...
The Squamish was 'alive and we'll on august 4, 2005 but on august 6 2005 every last spawner was wiped out by a train spill containing caustic soda...that river will never recover to the way it was before
and by the squamish river you of course mean the cheakamus.....
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Fishery notice now says fraser area 2 open untill further notice so looks like staying open longer than monday.
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that's good, now i can breathe and wait till the craziness dies down a bit...well, actually it won't but at least i don't need to get my shifts covered this weekend ;)
Further to Fishery Notice FN 0711, effective one hour before sunrise Saturday,
August 13, 2011 until further notice, in those waters of the Fraser River in
Region 2 (non-tidal Fraser River) retention of sockeye is permitted with a
daily limit of two (2) per day.
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=134994&ID=recreational
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Some interesting fuel to add to the fire.
The last commercial opening was 3 hours - 2 of which were almost useless due to the ripping tide. For those of you who don't know, tides make a huge difference to commercial gillnet fishing as well. A fleet can fish on the river for hours and get almost nothing ( 5 - 10 fish a set lasting 20 min approx...) and then when the tide slacks and starts to back up you can catch 200 in a set or two before it slows down again. And this with hundreds of nets below you - just amazing how the fish seem to appear out of nowhere.
Anyways - my dad's friend is a fisherman's union rep and was at the discussion about the last commercial Fraser opening and originally it was going to be 2 hours. When they added the extra hour it was on the front end of the tide. When asked why it wasn't tacked on to the last hour they were told it was because of the FN commercial opening upcoming. There is a heirarchy, no doubt about it, whether you believe it is deserved or not is a different discussion but make no mistake about it there is a political order of operations when it comes to the fishing in this province.
Another area of discussion is the belief that a FN commercial opening is against the law - supported by Mr. Cummins and his many protests -
http://fnbc.info/mp-among-bc-fishermen-fined-protest
Finally, It is well known that many FN fisherman go out for "food" fish then store it and add it to their catch during a FN commercial opening. As usual, a few bad eggs spoils the batch. I don't blame them but i do think the lack of enforcement is what leads many to be angry and draws uncalled for racism and negative attitudes toward the FN. We also know many FN people who have given up their status cards and own a "regular" commercial liscence, pay for their own schooling, and pay taxes. Very interesting to hear their view on things.
Long live the Fraser salmon - lets just hope no one gets the idea to put up a dam!!!!! ;)
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Great and informative post ricer, this explains a lot and answers questions all around, much appreciative :)
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"A steady flow of sockeye has been
observed at Mission in the 75,000-90,000 per day over the weekend. "
The following fisheries are planned: Lower Fraser River recreational fishery opened on Saturday August 13 until
further notice. Check with the specific Fishery Notice for specific details.
;D...Another day to put two more in the freezer... ;D
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=135089&ID=recreational
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Saw posted on Barry's Bait & tackle posting for opening on Tidal portion of Fraser river "Opening for Sockeye @ 2 per day until further notice," just as on the fresh water portion of the fraser, does anyone have the DFO tidal confirmation posting for this?
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Saw posted on Barry's Bait & tackle posting for opening on Tidal portion of Fraser river "Opening for Sockeye @ 2 per day until further notice," just as on the fresh water portion of the fraser, does anyone have the DFO tidal confirmation posting for this?
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=134990&ID=recreational
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Thanks Rodney, that was very fast on your part, just was registering myself with DFO on their notices site when you responded, this confirms the info I saw with their notice and the info Barry's posted, so it is a constant check now on these sites for closures as it is open for both Tidal and Freshwater on the Fraser for retention of 2 sockeye per day until they close it ;)
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For stories and photo's.
http://www.bclocalnews.com/fraser_valley/theprogress/lifestyles/127610923.html
http://www.bclocalnews.com/fraser_valley/theprogress/news/127791248.html
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Rodney the fishery link you posted said the next update on the recreational fishing would be on monday? Is it available yet?
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8) 8) all i can say is i cant wait i was down to one coho left in the freezer and it will be great to get back out on the river with some good friends and fun times for all 8)
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got out today in the boat by hope, most seemed to get their socks and a few springs mixed in
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With the commercial opening today, I heard it takes 4 days to affect the upper (Chilliwack-Hope) part of the river.
Is that true? If so it will be a slow weekend...
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I think it's closer to 2-3 days....
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6 hours
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I think it's closer to 2-3 days....
3 days for the fish to show up again near Hope.
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recreational fishery staying open through next weekend...let's see, at least five more days of the opening = another 10 sockeye for the freezer!!! ;D
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=135118&ID=recreational
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might not take that long - the openings do not let the commercial fish the ideal tides (slack and back up). We quit right when the fish start to push in.
This last opening was very slim pickings - 100 fish for a 6hr opening (some caught more and some less) - we were only allowed to fish the running tide so it was very difficult and frustrating. Fish were just starting to go in the net when we had to pick up our last set (85 fish). We only caught 15 fish for the first 5 hrs of the opening.
Pinks are starting to show up - we caught about 10 or so.
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might not take that long - the openings do not let the commercial fish the ideal tides (slack and back up). We quit right when the fish start to push in.
This last opening was very slim pickings - 100 fish for a 6hr opening (some caught more and some less) - we were only allowed to fish the running tide so it was very difficult and frustrating. Fish were just starting to go in the net when we had to pick up our last set (85 fish). We only caught 15 fish for the first 5 hrs of the opening.
Pinks are starting to show up - we caught about 10 or so.
where abouts where you fishing
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Was at Gerry Point Park yesterday (Wed Aug 17/2011 around 8pm aprox) & had some good chats with the many friendly folks ya can meet. There was a high tide.
Seen some commercial boats with theeir gill nets out. Hardly a breeze thus the water was plasid or flat looking & with the nice setting sun (BILLION DOLLAR VIEW) ...no wonder so people take their cameras.
One boat set his net very close to the enterance of the harbour (barely west of it) & the boat was only aprox 60ft directly infront of the statue in the memory of fishermen/possible fisherladies? lost at sea.
Anyways the net was out for 15 minutes max. & when they brought in the net ...WOW...fish after fish..every 6ft of net another fish. :o
One chap told of a story how sports fishing is so scientific..how just a slight color change in lures..results in one to catch 7 fish & the other guy zero fish. He said he is a catch & release sports fisherman.
Another guy Tony was out casting a small lure off those new docks.
Had that book HOOKED by Ernie Hollands to give Rod & Nina (guy tied 75000 or 80000 QUALITY fish flies in Millhaven Prison in Ont.)
As it turns out gave the book to a guy I was talking to...but Ihave another copy here at home ......... so just may bump into Rodney & Nina next time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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the nice setting sun (BILLION DOLLAR VIEW) ...no wonder so people take their cameras.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/BCfisher/EPSN0906.jpg)
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Easywater WOW! Nice shot I love my city :D
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Fished the upper river tonight, slooowww, still got our sox but really had to work, heard it was hot in the morning though, didn't see as many springs as yesterday
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Thanks Easywater ...that pic definately is a great example of that BILLION DOLLAR VIEW my past post mentioned.
About 4 days ago as the sun set ...to the east a big orange looking moon was arising...UN-REAL.
Tonight again just a beautiful night in Richmond ...sun-set & all & also it was nice to bump into THE MAN to have a short chat with Rodney who was casting a lure into the Fraser R.
Had to keep it short as my dear wife has this idea that a bike ride is pt A to pt B & do not stop to talk with people.
She is a great wife but "kinda bossy" ha ha ha BUT so am I (man is the boss right) ??? In theory anyways ...
Seen some commercial boats out in the Fraser & also at least 4-5 people sports fishing.
Stay safe folks as when the fish come in numbers hopefully we do not have any drownings. Safety first...last wkend some 20ft pleasure boat with 4 guys on board rammed thier boat into a log-boom near Mitchell Is on the N. Fraser at about 10pm or so (dark conditions) Not a safe thing to do.(going too fast in a boat in the dark on the North arm of the Fraser R)
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Hey Arima, how come you aren't out in the chuck in your boat? The sox and springs are biting out there!
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Fished the upper river tonight, slooowww, still got our sox but really had to work, heard it was hot in the morning though, didn't see as many springs as yesterday
Before 3pm it was like a " fish on and landing " carnival. :o Lots of people got springs. Wish this weekend will remain good not affected by commercial fishing.
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Damien ...I was a floor-waxer for quite a number of yrs...& at that time we bought into the LIGHTHOUSE PLACE over by the #2 bridge...& that means working into the wee hrs of the AM & at a dif building every night...N Van Pt Coq Anacis Is Nwr Van etc..............plants car dealerships banks...then many times I'd just have a few hrs sleep wake up & bring my dad to a Dr. Appt. etc...
Then found out that our building was a possible LEAKY CONDO (yes even an 8 story concrete buillding... thought it was only the 4 story wood framed buildings that had that problem)
So sujj to parents & to sell their home..we'd sell our apt & we'd move in together ..in a home with 2 kitchens 5 bedrms etc..here in Richmond.
Well we sold & they sold & as it turned out the LIGHTHOUSE PLACE did need major repairs...so did all the buildings in that area. CRAZY.
Mind ya I did tell all viewing our apt. that studies (engineering co.'s) were being done to see it this building needed repairs.
Anyways when we all moved in together ...the big plus was I got to aid or help out my aging family...
Dad & I wanted to have a dad /son thing to do so we bought a 13ft older but well kept runabout with a 35 hp outboard...Could tell ya some HAIR RASING STORIES being in that boat on the stormy Fraser R....then we got another slightly larger 16 Silverline boat..but websurfing I came across the Arima boat line...well we just had to get one ...but at the right price & one that was in good shape. Well a 2nd hand Arima 16ft that ws selling for $14999 dropped to $9999 OFFERED $9000 A deal was made.
So this Arima boat for the last 2/1/4 yrs has been 100's of boating & fishing adventures for my dad & myself.
My dad put most of the money into it.
Sadly this past yr my 85 yr old dad has had increased health problems...& he had some bad falls in the house...his walking now went to just a few steps...with use with a walker...he needs a wheelchair & or sits in his comfortable living rm chair...well as he is in that condition we just have not been able to get out...I'm their driver cleaner cooketc etc...plus do a pt time job...
I just have not the time...but also jsut do not want to get out there in the boat with 3-5 people who are willing to go out with me.... My dad says go out with your friends but...have not done so...this boat has been a dad/son thing & he has put the majority of bucks into the boat so I just kinda feel guilty if I go with others.....
I'm in the process of building a small stairway with big wide steps to see if he will be able to get into the boat via that method. Surely I can take him out for 2-3-possibly 4 hrs.
Thanks for the question & who knows we just may be out there soon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sucks to hear that man. There will always be fish (we hope), but friends and family aren't here forever. You are taking care of your Family and truly is the most important thing.
Cheers,
Damien (bassfreak on the other board)