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Title: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: chris gadsden on January 13, 2008, 03:59:33 PM
It is time to start the 2008 steelhead brood captures program on the Chlliwack Vedder River. It starts this Tuesday and fish are taken from daylight to about 3PM, weekdays only at this time. In the past about 70 wild steelhead are taken for spawning purposes that take place at the Chilliwack River Hatchery. The Freshwater Fisheries Society of BC and FOC staff at the Chilliwack Hatchery work together on this program.

A number of volunteer anglers will be carrying the holding tubes so please co operate if one of them asks to tube a wild fish you have on. It will be to your benefit to do so as you are providing hatchery fish for you and others in the years ahead. Of course the steelhead must be left in the water at all times if you see a volunteer coming to tube it from you.

Rodney or Steve may wish to provide more details. I will attempt to keep you posted as how the catch numbers go as the program progresses.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: chris gadsden on January 16, 2008, 09:22:52 AM
Just about got a nice wild doe in the tube yesterday but unfortunatley she broke the anglers leader just as we were getting ready to tube her, maybe today. ;D

Thanks anyway to the angler who was willing to donate the fish to the program.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: Rodney on January 16, 2008, 09:24:53 AM
I forgot to post this yesterday. For those who are not familiar with the steelhead broodstock program, please visit this page:

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishy_news/080114_2.html
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: chris gadsden on January 16, 2008, 05:56:27 PM
I was informed 2 tubed today, by The Master and Tooth Pick. Also 4 yesterday by the Hatchery staff. Fish were caught around me today but all hatchery steelhead. ??? ::)

I imagine the one I lost would have been wild though. :D
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: chris gadsden on February 19, 2008, 05:59:02 PM
Just received word from Steve they will be holding off taking more brood stock until March 1. They have 52 to date at the hatchery. I believe they have a 50/50 split on does and bucks and will take between 25 and 30 more come March 1.

A big thanks to those that have donated the wild fish they have landed to the volunteers and also to the volunteers who make that extra effort to tube these fish.

This will provide fish for us all, to enjoy in the years ahead. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: Kristopher on February 19, 2008, 08:02:48 PM
I ended up landing a nice wild doe just a few minutes after you guys left yesterday::) .  Would have loved for her to end up in the hatchery.

I was the guy fly fishing with Kevin.   
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: chris gadsden on February 19, 2008, 08:11:28 PM
I ended up landing a nice wild doe just a few minutes after you guys left yesterday::) .  Would have loved for her to end up in the hatchery.

I was the guy fly fishing with Kevin.   
Yes Kevin told me when I saw him later. Well done getting it on the fly, too bad we left when we did, next time.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: chris gadsden on March 18, 2008, 10:01:09 AM
Just phoned the hatchery and they need 5 more pairs to complete this years program.

I am going out shortly to see if I can get one as I have not done too well for the program tubing only 2 of which one was Lew's and the other mine. Of course out of the dozen I have landed this season if memory serves me right only 2 were unclipped.

Thanks to all that have contributed their fish to the program.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: chris gadsden on March 19, 2008, 09:54:58 AM
Apparently the information I received yesterday has now been corrected and they still need 10 pairs, 20 fish.

Guess I better get out there.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: Every Day on March 19, 2008, 12:13:03 PM
I was doing work at the hatchery the last two days for school work experience... there were 8 empty containers there yeterday when we spawned some of the fish and about 4 or 5 had only one fish. Chris is also got to see your fish and I remeber you saying it was probably the smallest one there, belive me it wasn't ^^. I could post some pics I took on my cell phone yesterday if you guys want? (Pics from spawning and of a few fish)
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: fishey on March 20, 2008, 01:51:06 PM
anyone know how many more they need?
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: chris gadsden on March 20, 2008, 01:58:09 PM
anyone know how many more they need?
See above.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: yoda on March 20, 2008, 02:28:22 PM
sure hope there are more fish coming! seems to have dried up in the lower river lately. heard rumours of indian nets. saw two fish with scales missing and lines on them this week. are the indians targettingred springs in the fraser?
really sad if it's true!!
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: fyrslyer on March 20, 2008, 03:38:25 PM
I heard the same thing about the Native nets at the mouth, could they be targeting Steelhead?
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: chris gadsden on March 20, 2008, 07:01:09 PM
sure hope there are more fish coming! seems to have dried up in the lower river lately. heard rumours of indian nets. saw two fish with scales missing and lines on them this week. are the indians targettingred springs in the fraser?
really sad if it's true!!
They have had some ceremonial opening for Early Timed Chinooks but there has been reports of illegal nets as well in the Chilliwack area of the Fraser.

Not sure of nets targetting steelhead at Devils Run (Mouth of The Vedder which actually is the mouth of the Sumas) but there is reports of them each year at this location, sometimes just rumours. I have not seen any steelhead with nets marks this year from close to 30 fish I have seen landed by myself and others. Sometimes you will see marks caused from the fish twisting in your line while fighting it. Then there is healed marks from past injures as well I also have been told some marks are caused by parasites.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: square tail on March 21, 2008, 05:34:59 AM
what is the count in the hatchery to date does any body know?
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: Rodney on March 21, 2008, 11:31:02 AM
Just over 50.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: buck on March 21, 2008, 09:20:53 PM
Still require 9 females and 3 males. Time is running out as all females have to be spawned before the end of April. If females have not spawned before this date they are released back into the river.
The reason for releasing these fish is that we are unable to get the juvenile fish up to release size if spawned past the end of April. Nine females spawned to date.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: chris gadsden on March 21, 2008, 09:31:04 PM
Still require 9 females and 3 males. Time is running out as all females have to be spawned before the end of April. If females have not spawned before this date they are released back into the river.
The reason for releasing these fish is that we are unable to get the juvenile fish up to release size if spawned past the end of April. Nine females spawned to date.
Thanks for the update. Do they still just want fish from below the Crossing?
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: buck on March 21, 2008, 09:38:31 PM
    Chris they still only want fish below the crossing.   
    Just would like to mention  to EVERY DAY to leave the old brood stock fish in Sardis Park alone.           
    Smoked mud is still mud.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: yoda on March 23, 2008, 12:36:34 AM
yes, i understand the dillema, a w marking on a fish usually means that a seal has in fact bitten the fish , but criss cross marks on the head are usually due to nets. also when a fish has only made it up to the highway bridge, and not the gauntlet, interpretation becomes a little easier.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: Every Day on March 23, 2008, 12:22:51 PM
lol thanks buck...... don't worry I havnt fished there since last year since Im not aloud to anymore being 16...... my friends still do thouhg, lol. I make fun of them whenever they bring those things home, and I only did that once, was nasty and wouldnt do it again lol.... 

Good luck on getting the rest of your fish, hopefully you guys meet the quota.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: chris gadsden on March 23, 2008, 08:39:17 PM
Hey Buckaroo, whats the deal with only fish below the crossing? I've been out of touch for awhile but back in the day you all took fish from me above the crossing. Seems if your short why not above? Or maybe your tubers arent in the same class as us old dogs. ;D ;)
I believe they are looking for as fresh as fish as possible and the Lower are late run fish as well. I could be wrong but are not a lot of the higher up fish staging there now at this time of year?
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: Every Day on March 23, 2008, 09:44:05 PM
Chris is right, the hatchery only wants fresh fish, also the fish abve the Vedder Crossing are considered early run fish and they are not suppose to be taking those anymore, they are wanting some late running fish. From what I understand the hatchery people are not the ones deciding what fish to take, they are getting orders from someone higher up then they are  :D.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: Every Day on March 23, 2008, 10:02:00 PM
I don't think so, from what I understand from working there earlier this week they are trying to avoid early run fish, which they are assuming are above the crossing and are trying to get some later run fish that are coming up right now.
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: Every Day on March 23, 2008, 10:32:17 PM
Yea I agree but when I was working there they told me they didn't want early run fish anymore, anything above the Crossing is considered an early run fish apperntally..... Hopefully Buck reads this and enlighten us some more ;) Im just trying to go by what they told me, I dont want to give any false info so all I know is they want fresh fish, so go out and get some for them! lol
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: Every Day on March 24, 2008, 07:43:26 PM
Wild fish dont seem to like me so far this year, the only 2 I've landed were hatchery and also I would be no good to them because I only get out of school right when they stop collecting fish  ;) Retired people would be way more useful seeing as they have more time to fish, which brings up another question.... Why do the retired people pay less than half of what we pay for liscences when they can fish every day and we are held to fishing on weekends or for a couple hours after work/school?
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: chris gadsden on March 24, 2008, 09:22:12 PM
Got to be 65 to qualify which I can if I wait until August to get it. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: Every Day on March 24, 2008, 09:49:21 PM
Ok sorry if I offended anyone, I mean "older people" people over 65 which is normally the retirees.... Of course there are retired people before this Im just saying people who are older have more time to fish but still get cheaper liscences...
Title: Re: Steelhead Brood Stock Capture Starts Tuesday
Post by: chris gadsden on March 26, 2008, 09:41:50 PM
Will be taking them from Tamahi down starting tomorrow, around 9 does, 3 bucks.