Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: fishfulthinkin on August 04, 2010, 12:01:53 AM
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could some of you recommend any good websites or perhaps somewhere on this forum that tells you what bugs are hatching at what times in this area?
where would one (a beginner) start to learn about "matching the hatch" entomology?
p.s. sorry if this is a previous thread somewhere
if so would someone know where i could find it?
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This is a good local site http://www.thechronicflyfisher.com/ and this one has some amazing macro photos http://www.troutnut.com/
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thanks alot CM i'll check those out today :)
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Study the insect books, so you can recognize them and understand their habits. As for those who are bold enough to predict hatch times, I have no faith in them. We are the only species that lives by the Roman Calendar; all nature govern their times and seasons on the warmth of the sun.
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which "insect books" are you refferring to?
have you got any suggestions from previous reads of your own?
thanks newsman
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I believe newsman is referring to any of the entomology books available to the new angler, as well as plenty of fantastic websites on the topic.
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i gathered they'd be entomology books. just looking for something specific in regards to something that he may have thought helped him in the past.. or others for that matter
cheers!
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could some of you recommend any good websites or perhaps somewhere on this forum that tells you what bugs are hatching at what times in this area?
where would one (a beginner) start to learn about "matching the hatch" entomology?
p.s. sorry if this is a previous thread somewhere
if so would someone know where i could find it?
As a beginner Take the time to track down a copy of the Gilly(used). Many consider this book to be the best book ever published for all aspects of fly fishing. I still have my hard cover copy which I purchased new, as a beginner, years ago and I still give it a read every early spring. It really is a fly fishers guide to learn the sport specifically for British Columbia.
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jimmywits - I've deffinantly heard that book mentioned in the passed
have you any idea what a used copy goes for?
thanks alot for bringing that one up, i've heard good things about it a long time ago but totally slipped my mind.
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http://www.thehatchapp.com/ (http://www.thehatchapp.com/)
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looks pretty cool bassonator
do you have this app yourself? and do you find it works well and is accurate?
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looks pretty cool bassonator
do you have this app yourself? and do you find it works well and is accurate?
Nope Im against cells on the flow but this app...is making me think twice ;D
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jimmywits - I've deffinantly heard that book mentioned in the passed
have you any idea what a used copy goes for?
thanks alot for bringing that one up, i've heard good things about it a long time ago but totally slipped my mind.
Used copies are not that expensive at all, I would just google around and you will find one. I have advised other beginners on the site and they have readily obtained them. My copy has as many notes in the margins as words on the pages. Believe me you will not regret making the effort to get your own copy.
tight lines
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Rick Passek's book on insects is one of the best I have seen locally. Easy to get since he manages the tackle department at Wholesale Sports, or you can google his name. My only complaint with his book is that he did not cover stoneflies.
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could some of you recommend any good websites or perhaps somewhere on this forum that tells you what bugs are hatching at what times in this area?
where would one (a beginner) start to learn about "matching the hatch" entomology?
p.s. sorry if this is a previous thread somewhere
if so would someone know where i could find it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBSJhQTf8fc&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBSJhQTf8fc&feature=related
Very nice video - well presented.
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Trout in rivers generally eat caddis (larva, pupa and adult), mayflies (nymph and adult), stoneflies (nymph, adult), mosquitos, terrestrials (grasshoppers, ants), salmon eggs and sculpin. Trout in lakes usually are eating chironomid, leeches, shrimp, dragonfly nymphs, damselflies (nymphs and emergers), mayflies (adults, nymphs), caddis (larva, pupa, adults), boatmen, snails and, depending on the strain of trout, sometimes smaller fish. Learn to recognize those forms of food, the lifecyles of those food items and what time of year they're present and in what type of water (acidic low nutrient coastal, alkaline interior lakes) and have a couple flies to match what type of bugs will be present in the local size and shade, then watch for those aforementioned food items on the surface and look under rocks on the shore and you'll have a good idea what's present in the body of water to tie on. Once you get a fish and its big enough, pump its throat and see what it was eating. Its that simple.
For instance, a quick glance under a rock in a riffle on the Skagit will reveal an abundance of cased caddis larva. Pull apart the stone cases and you'll find the worm-like larva with a black head and a peach-coloured abdomen.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs272.snc4/39931_610014245626_122505749_36000012_5875348_n.jpg)
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thanks for the straight to the point tips matt. i mainly fish streams and rivers right now.
and dont really know the names of too many of the bugs yet. so even if i found something under a rock i probably wouldnt
know their fly name.. i'd just go to the tackle store and look for something that looked similar.
im getting to know a few of the main ones tho. i think eventually i'll try my hand at tying (once im frimilar enough) as
im sure it would be cheaper than baying 2 bucks a fly or more. haha ive already noticed that starting to add up
cant leave the fly store without picking up a few ;D
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Matching the hatch is often made out to be more complicated that it is. You don't really need to know the Latin names of the bugs, but knowing the common names and life cycles (caddis, mayfly, stonefly) is quite useful.
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thanks for the straight to the point tips matt. i mainly fish streams and rivers right now.
and dont really know the names of too many of the bugs yet. so even if i found something under a rock i probably wouldnt
know their fly name.. i'd just go to the tackle store and look for something that looked similar.
im getting to know a few of the main ones tho. i think eventually i'll try my hand at tying (once im frimilar enough) as
im sure it would be cheaper than baying 2 bucks a fly or more. haha ive already noticed that starting to add up
cant leave the fly store without picking up a few ;D
Page 34 and 35 of the Gilly covered by ALF DAVY for words of wisdom on this subject.