Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: dave c on June 28, 2016, 04:10:51 AM
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Hi guys. Looking for some help here. My wife wants to spoil me for my birthday. Looking for my first high end CP rod. Price in the 500 - 600 range. Have used many lower end rods, trophy xl, trophy titan (broke), fenwick elite tech, fenwick hmx, . Last year a fellow let me check out his Lamiglas and I was amazed at how light it was. Last fall I ended up with tennis (fishers) elbow and was out of commission for awhile. Would like your thoughts on different rods specifically sage, g loomis, lamiglas, st croix. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Will marry the rod with an Islander steelheader reel. Will use mostly for coho and steelhead. I will probably use my elite tech, kingpin setup for springs and chum unless u can suggest a good all around rod thatcan handle all. Thks muchly
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Any rod can break and trophy is pretty good with the warranty.
All the rods mentioned are good rods the deciding factor for me would be the warrantee.
All lifetime warranties are not equal.
You have to remember the shipping and handling as well as the turn around time and customer service.
I'm happy with Sages warranty and service and a 3113 would be a good choice.
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You might want to consider a custom build using the Batson Rainshadow XST1383F.
It is an excellent Centerpin blank - nice power, very light, and flexes deep into the handle.
I don't fish centerpin, but am building one of these for a buddy right now.
I use the XST1263F for my levelwind float fishing and it is the best blank I have seen for fish up to 20 lbs in fast water.
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Yes, a custom build would be a cool option.
Custom cork can look pretty cool and you can choose the components.
Rainshadow are nice blanks and there are other options.
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Lamiglas are great rods, I've had a couple but dealing with them for warranty sucks. We have sent a couple in from the shop and the wait time is counted in months.
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Lamiglas are great rods, I've had a couple but dealing with them for warranty sucks. We have sent a couple in from the shop and the wait time is counted in months.
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Custom rods are a cool way to go but if you are prone to rod breaks i would suggest gloomis warranty or the expeditor service they offer is really quick to get the rod back to you the warranty also covers the full rod not just the blank any custom rod is a full rebuild if you happen to break it . If you go custom I love the 1263xst rainshadow blanks i have one paired with my milner center pin and it works great
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Who carries rainshadow? What kind of money am I looking at. Can u suggest a builder. Titan broke bringing a 10 lb doe chum to beach.
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You can Google them.
There's a.few good rod builders I'm town who could.probably order and build you one.
Brian Babcock at Searum or Brian Ford at WestCoast Tackle due excellent work.
Any rod can break though.
The Titan is basically a copy of Sage and Trophy has a good warranty and are local.
There could have been a Nick or something that could have been the problem or...
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I use a custom built CTS Affinity float rod 4-8# - 13' from New Zealand with my Islander pin. Rod weighs only 7.3 ounces, light & is fast action. Have landed 15# steelhead, coho & 16# chum. 13' works great on long drift. Never use my sages anymore. Check out their website.
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Who carries rainshadow? What kind of money am I looking at. Can u suggest a builder. Titan broke bringing a 10 lb doe chum to beach.
If you are close to Chilliwack check out Valley Customs Rods. Chad is a dealer for Rainshadow and has a good stock. www.valleycustomrods.com
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Definitely custom build if you are willing to spend that much. Also google some custom rod designs to spark your imagination, there's some very creative work being done out there.
There's a lot of custom parts available that will look very unique and the rod will have a style all your own. The custom builds I see on the local flows all tend to look the same and are somewhat boring IMHO. No offense if you like that traditional look but if you're going to drop that kind of coin might as well have something that looks a bit special.
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Definitely custom build if you are willing to spend that much. Also google some custom rod designs to spark your imagination, there's some very creative work being done out there.
There's a lot of custom parts available that will look very unique and the rod will have a style all your own. The custom builds I see on the local flows all tend to look the same and are somewhat boring IMHO. No offense if you like that traditional look but if you're going to drop that kind of coin might as well have something that looks a bit special.
"That kind of coin" will not give him anything special. Sage regular build at any fishing store cost more than $600. I've seen sage although on the net for $1200 US and it was really something.
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You don't know how to shop or haven't made any friends...
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can't go wrong with a sage 2106lb or 3106lb if your just using it for coho/steelhead. sage has an excellent warranty as well as very good re sale value if, down the road you want/need to sell it. Rainshadow has nice rods and a good warranty as well, i had an 11'6 xst 8-12lb and it was perfect for what you are describing. either way your best bet is to hold out and wait for a good price on a used rod in really good shape. custom building rods can get pricey fast. if your set on building, dont cheap out on cork and guides , good components do go a long way.
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You don't know how to shop or haven't made any friends...
with an attitude like that u probably don't have many friends youself!!! Good luck with your trolling. Haha. Thanks for all the advice friends, the budget is upped amnd will go custom route. Tks again
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It was just a jibe. Shop around.
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Another vote for a Sage 2106lb since you already have a beefstick for the Chum and Chinook.
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I have a 13' noodle rod and it's my favourite rod above all others.... Have landed chums and 2 small spring g with it in moderate flows but it's a coho/steelhead rod... Man I love that rod and if I could find 1 that had a bit more beef in the butt towards mid section it'd be an awesome rod for our area.... Maybe instead of a 4 to 8 # rating go for a 6 to 10 # 13' (this would be the next thing I'd like to try) ... Or 6 to 12# in a 11'6 - 13'. If you haven't used a noodle rod (aka a float rod) I'd look at one as it's more "unique/custom" than a standard " custom" build and I always get questions about it (mines a stock shimano but it always get attention from pin fishers and only cost about $150) . Also i have the sliding reel seats and I use only a spinning reel (have a pin but it's less effective in every way and I haven't found it enjoyable) but then you have the option of using both kinds of reels which is kinda the point of a custom rod to me... Something DIFFERENT and more suited to your needs (not sure but throwing it out as an alternative idea...) or just go stock and enjoy the benefits of cheaper and easier repair costs and purchase... Just my thoughts
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Tks to all for advice. At freds this afternoon and spoke with the man himself. 3113 custom on order. Tks again.
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Now we're talking. I have one myself with really nice alps reel seat. I got it below stated price, well below (to answer Fish or Cut jibe) that ,but am giving an advice to novice who ,it appears has no knowledge of the market and "contacts".
I'd like to know Fish and Cuts how much you paid for your custom 3113 MB at the store.
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Picked up my 3113lb Dave Barnes custom from Freds. She's a thing of beauty. Now if I can only find a spring to test her out on.
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You'll love it. Don't be shy on the hook set as its a pretty limp rod.
Some guys say 3113lb is under gunned for the bigger fish but I've only ever had problems with Big brute Chinook (I mean brutes.) it handles the 10-15 lb chickens no problem.
It's amazing what abuse that rod can take.
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You'll love it. Don't be shy on the hook set as its a pretty limp rod.
Some guys say 3113lb is under gunned for the bigger fish but I've only ever had problems with Big brute Chinook (I mean brutes.) it handles the 10-15 lb chickens no problem.
It's amazing what abuse that rod can take.
Thanks for the tip
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Picked up my 3113lb Dave Barnes custom from Freds. She's a thing of beauty. Now if I can only find a spring to test her out on.
Glad you like it Dave :D