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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Every Day on December 11, 2014, 03:13:30 PM
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Maybe not my best video, but it'll have to do until next year when I can hopefully put a better one together!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIv0FAzMS-s
Here's some looks at the fly used in the video:
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Something to try for next year to make the pinks a bit more fun!
Cheers,
Dan
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Very very cool! ;D
Was your retrieve generally quite quick? Or did it vary?
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Great Video!
Thanks for sharing.
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Screw 'whats-her-my friend', but you should have broken the internet for that post! :)
Did they strike when the fly was not moving, or did you have to twitch and retrieve it to trigger a response?
Also, why did you tie in the black foam (i presume) piece under the pink/orange foam. Was that just for extra floatation and/or to help create more wake?
What size hook? I hope you do a fly tying video? :)
Sorry for the flood of questions but that was very cool, and I want to give it a go this year. I think that's going to be a great way of fly fishing for pinks, while limiting accidental snagging and flossing of fish which can happen a lot when using a sinking line with big schools of fish in in a river.
Thanks again.
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thats sick, trying this for sure next season
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the pink poly wog was the first dry fly specifically for Pacific Salmon and has caught Coho and chum as well as pinks. Just about any spun deer hair pattern with a shell back of foam will work as will a heavily dressed muddle using pink deer hair. For the most part pinks that are a ways from the salt don't respond as well as fish off the beach. Last year I switched to a popper after hooking 40 fish one morning on the Vedder. I got lots of swirls and follows but hooked one fish in an hour. That was enough though. Just cast it downstream and strip it back much like popping for bass.
this link may help
http://www.lakemarie.com/Surface%20fishing/Surface%20fishing%20for%20silver%20salmon.html
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fun!
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Great video Dan :)
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Very very cool! ;D
Was your retrieve generally quite quick? Or did it vary?
Surprisingly, the best retrieve was very slow, nearly a figure 8 retrieve, just enough to get it to create a solid wake. Some days they definitely liked a hard pop with a small pause before the next one.
Did they strike when the fly was not moving, or did you have to twitch and retrieve it to trigger a response?
Generally they would only take it while moving. That last part before it takes a look at the fly though, the fish smashed it after I stopped stripping and let it sit there for a second.
Also, why did you tie in the black foam (i presume) piece under the pink/orange foam. Was that just for extra floatation and/or to help create more wake?
The black foam causes a lot more of a wake. My buddies were just doing the shell back flies, and this version of a popper was hooking up around 3 to every 1 they were getting. I find these flies create more of an air bubble type effect in front of them, rather than just a wake - even at slow speeds.
What size hook? I hope you do a fly tying video? :)
Hook was a size 4 saltwater gammy hook. I don't have any fly tying videos quite yet. I might put together a step by step one of these days though if there is interest.
Thanks for the comments everyone! Definitely give it a try, it's great fun!
Cheers,
Dan
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Don't forget Daniel, I showed you this lol
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If this is what you call a poor video, I can only imagine what a "good" one is like by your standards! :o :o :o
Very, very cool Dan. Can I book a trip with you? ;)
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If this is what you call a poor video, I can only imagine what a "good" one is like by your standards! :o :o :o
Very, very cool Dan. Can I book a trip with you? ;)
You'll see some good ones here eventually... I just need to find the time ;D
And yes, but not for money. Just come on out and lets go for a fish! Maybe one day I'll take on some real bookings hahaha
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Here's some looks at the fly used in the video:
basically the flies pictured are 'Gurglers':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-dyWV4MqXQ
http://midcurrent.com/videos/tying-a-gurgler/
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Awesome....have you found this to work in rivers as well or only ocean?
BN
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basically the flies pictured are 'Gurglers':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-dyWV4MqXQ
http://midcurrent.com/videos/tying-a-gurgler/
Basically, but they are not... As said above, they produce a lot more action on the surface than a typical gurgler, and have had much better results used along side a typical gurgler. They wake better, pop better, and create an air bubble in front, rather than the typical wake gurglers produce. Feel free to stay with gurglers and show how well they work, I'd love to see more videos of this as I love top-water action!
Awesome....have you found this to work in rivers as well or only ocean?
BN
I haven't tried it in rivers, as I do not target pinks once they get to fresh water. I rarely target pinks period...
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Basically, but they are not... ...
there is that horizontal black foam blade which isn't on the gurgler. Looks like that is put in before the upper gurgler foam is folded down and perhaps glued to it. Is the black foam put on the shank by sticking a hole in the centre with a bodkin then pushed over the eye through that hole?
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Really cool video. Thanks, for sharing!
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there is that horizontal black foam blade which isn't on the gurgler. Looks like that is put in before the upper gurgler foam is folded down and perhaps glued to it. Is the black foam put on the shank by sticking a hole in the centre with a bodkin then pushed over the eye through that hole?
Yes, the horizontal foam is key. I poke a hole in the middle, slide it on the hook, double it over the eye, and secure it down by wrapping thread over 1/4" of the foam onto the hook shank, and then glue as well. Once that's done, I throw in all my other other materials and tie down the foam for the back.
Make sure that the foam for the back (pink stuff) is super wide, wide enough to fold over the edges of the black horizontal foam. The thing I have found best for securing the top piece of foam is actually shoe goo. Normal glue didn't work well and allowed the foam to lift and break (it also didn't hold its shape which affected the action) after a day of casting and catching fish. A little shoe goo under the lip when you put it down, and some on the sides will hold the top down well and keep it there, in shape, forever.
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Awesome....have you found this to work in rivers as well or only ocean?
BN
I have heard, second hand, of anglers fishing dry flies on the Harrison for pinks. I think it was in a magazine article written by Tom Johannesen, but don't quote me on that.
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Yeah and Bill McMillan wrote about catching coho by waking muddlers on the surface of the Washougal River in Washington. Try that on the Vedder!
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that fly reminds me off scott howells ska-opper. gonna have to try it for the 2015 pink run that theres a whole thread about already ::)