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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Meat Head Mike on September 30, 2010, 03:55:55 PM
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i am new to fishing and i don't know where to get the big fish at vedder river. theres lots of places there but not sure which one is the best to get the big fish. this is my first year fishing so don't know much and plus don't know what kind of bait to use? so please help me out :)
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This site offers a lot for what you ask.
This thread (start at page 1) should start you off nicely! :)
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=24922.0
As for the where? The veddar has many kilometers of waterways that have fish as they like to travel. Generally one doesn't fish in a single spot. And being adventurous is all in the fun (and sport) of fishing.
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There is no one place that produces big fish. They're scattered throughout the river system.
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Springs like the deeper choppy water "USUALLY" Coho like the slow walking pace water to pond back waters, I would suggest you move around allot and not fence post in one spot all day like most people so on the Vedder, Moving around more often than usual will only mean on thing - Catch more fish
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Springs like the deeper choppy water "USUALLY" Coho like the slow walking pace water to pond back waters, I would suggest you move around allot and not fence post in one spot all day like most people so on the Vedder, Moving around more often than usual will only mean on thing - Catch more fish
thanks. ill try to find those cohos.
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Springs like the deeper choppy water "USUALLY" Coho like the slow walking pace water to pond back waters, I would suggest you move around allot and not fence post in one spot all day like most people so on the Vedder, Moving around more often than usual will only mean on thing - Catch more fish
While moving around works, standing in one spot also works. The reason for this is that the salmon are moving up stream all day long.
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However, with that being said, don't be a fence poster. Either move along gradually or wave the person through so they can fish the run and then move down below you.
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All the meatholes are here:
http://ww.bcfishingreports.com/vedder-river.htm
Stick to them and you'll be fine. Lots of anglers, lots of fish...fun fun fun. ;D
Leave the river in between those hotspots to those of us who care for more than just catching big fish. ;)
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and also dont forget that hole #42 is now permanently closed to fishing ;)
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The best spot for big fish is the KWB, Kieth wilson Bridge, not to many people about it, so keep quiet.
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The best spot for big fish is the KWB, Kieth wilson Bridge, not to many people about it, so keep quiet.
Please remember to put sarcastic smilies (wink) on posts like this as new fishermen might actually BELIEVE you. ::)
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Leave the river in between those hotspots to those of us who care for more than just catching big fish. ;)
What an ignorant thing to say to someone who was asking a fishing forum for a few pointers...
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What an ignorant thing to say to someone who was asking a fishing forum for a few pointers...
Care to elaborate, Roeman?
Meathead Mike is a beginner and he was asking about the best places on the Vedder to catch big fish, a.k.a. meatholes.
I even offered a map with all the meatholes on it. (BTW, thanks HOOK for pointing out that the Limit (Boundary) Hole is closed to all angling). What specifically was ignorant in my post?
Are you pissed off that I revealed all of your favourite spots to a newbie? That must be it!
That, or someone pissed in your cereal this morning. ROTFLMAO!
Only thing I was asking in exchange is for him to stay away from the 'in between' runs where some of us like to chuck flies and don't really care that much about the catching.
I've always said it, the Vedder beyond the meatholes is heaven...it takes a while to get there, though...
Peace.
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Where is KWB....is it upper or lower river, I don't like fish around too many people so I think that sounds like a perfect spot!
Gentlemen..... ::)
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Gentlemen..... ::)
Come on Mr. Moderator, have a little fun now and then ;D ;D ;D
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Care to elaborate, Roeman?
Meathead Mike is a beginner and he was asking about the best places on the Vedder to catch big fish, a.k.a. meatholes.
I even offered a map with all the meatholes on it. (BTW, thanks HOOK for pointing out that the Limit (Boundary) Hole is closed to all angling). What specifically was ignorant in my post?
Are you pissed off that I revealed all of your favourite spots to a newbie? That must be it!
That, or someone pissed in your cereal this morning. ROTFLMAO!
Only thing I was asking in exchange is for him to stay away from the 'in between' runs where some of us like to chuck flies and don't really care that much about the catching.
I've always said it, the Vedder beyond the meatholes is heaven...it takes a while to get there, though...
Peace.
I tend to agree with you Milo, I think Roeman was out of line. After all, you did put a smiley face on the end. I have seen the word ignorant thrown out there way too much lately. I wonder how many of the users actually know what it means.
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Come on Mr. Moderator, have a little fun now and then ;D ;D ;D
Imagine, though, some poor guy that wants to learn to fish salmon in the fall rivers and has no friends that fish so he can't go to them for help.
After reading this, the individual now goes out and sees the way things are done at the "ugly" places a soon learns that THIS is the way to fish... Do we want to have people learn to fish like THIS?
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DragonSpeed,
You planted a seed...I am one of those poor fishermen...well ok, I could afford my licence and a few betties, but that said.. I don't have a selection of knowledgeable buddies to go fishing with and pick their brains, so I use this forum to help educate myself. The issues I face is to separate the comments from the inflexible fishermen who think there is only one way to go about it and the more moderate who offer choices.
Wouldn't it be nice if a dozen or so "Expert" fisherman to hold a symposium on fishing? Charge maybe $10 a head, have sponsors like Bradley and different tackle shops and or manufacturers? and have multiple info sessions and demonstations?
Promote through local papers and tackle shops.....educate the fishermen and the public????? something to make you go hmmmm.....
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or some newbie fisherman (like yourself) could always ASK a more experienced person to help you out by fishing with you a couple times and teaching you the ropes so to speak. I have gone out with many new fisherman and shown them some stuff and helped them figure things out, even helped get them into fish from time to time ;)
some of my best times fishing are helping less knowledgeable anglers and watching it pay off ;D especially kids
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Hmmm, I didn't say newbie, I think I referred to being poor. I have been fishing for 6 years, so I would consider myself an intermediate fisherman,That said though, there is allot to learn. I don't believe any 1 person knows everything, but each more experienced person can teach you something new.
So now all I need is your phone number so I can ask a more experienced fisherman some finer techniques for Vedder fishing, styles and spots and dangers I may not be aware of and maybe go fishing. ;)
One thing I do know is that teaching makes the teacher a better fisherman, because they learn something new in the process as well.
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free packed lunch if you take me fishing and show me the secret money spots
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If i can tag along too, I will buy dinner on the way home :) :)
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Heck - I'll up the ante with a flat of import beer. ;D
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Ok Hook, your breakfast, lunch and dinner is covered, and some cool ones on the end to wrap it up.
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I didnt see anything about hooks breakfast...but now he has a lot of pressure on him to get us into some fish! ;D ;D :) ;)
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Hey, I will buy you some dessert, a piece of chocolate cake or triple berry cake?
Just remember to bring me out for fishing next time............. ;D ;D ;D
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I'll throw in the accommodation :D
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I will carry you too and from the fishing hot spots, and spoon feed you when you get hungry so you dont have to put down your rod.
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I will carry you too and from the fishing hot spots, and spoon feed you when you get hungry so you dont have to put down your rod.
Awesome :D
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Go to "FRED'S" spend $1.00 on a map of the river.
Walk them, the runs on the map, and you will learn.
DON'T be disappointed by some others pseudo success.
But, watch, and even ask, the fishers that move.
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Go to "FRED'S" spend $1.00 on a map of the river.
Walk them, the runs on the map, and you will learn.
DON'T be disappointed by some others pseudo success.
But, watch, and even ask, the fishers that move.
This is good advice. Do not fall into the trap of imitating those that you see fence posting the popular spots.
If you still can't figure it out then I would be more than happy to show you the ropes providing you have an attractive daughter to bring along, attractive friends you can bring along or are an attractive lady yourself :-*
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I will carry you too and from the fishing hot spots, and spoon feed you when you get hungry so you don't have to put down your rod.
I think Bigfisher fails to see the humor in the posts previous to his. and none of them is really helpful other then Hook's. Fish or cut bait's comment doesn't really add value but Meathead Mike may end up doing exactly that. There are very few "newbies" who take the time to inform themselves. Most of them will just go to the river and hack it out as Dragonspeed suggests. I saw a whole bunch last Friday and talked to many of them, trying to help them out. If you can go out with a seasoned veteran to show you the ropes, that would be ideal. Most people are not that lucky. Others wouldn't even toss you a morsel, let alone spoon feed you. Allot of talk on this site between seasoned fisherman, but how much of this talk gets down to the new guy.
I started a thread re: a fishing symposium http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=25224.0 but of the 200 + that viewed it, only 7 people cared to cast a vote. I thought there would be more interest. Back to fishing by myself, kicking rocks into the river and hoping that I am doing things right
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too bad lots of guys are tight lipped about their spots... and for good reason on the Vedder! nowadays it's tell one person, and next thing you know, your spot is filled with 30 guys next time you go there! To all newcomers: if someone is gracious enough to share some tips or spots with you, be respectful and show your appreciation by NOT blabbing about it to anyone else!!!
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Thanks For Tips/Help For Fishing Veddar River!
« on: October 03, 2010, 02:48:39 PM »
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thanks to all the guys that gave me tips on catching the big Chinooks it helped alot since i just started fishing. i am really happy of getting 25 pound Chinook. i went under the bridge in chilliwack. i think today was a good day for catching these fish and i was using drifting floats named clear drift their really good for veddar. there was some wild cohos and hatchery cohos. going fishing tomorrow.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2010, 03:03:24 PM by Meat Head Mike »
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too bad lots of guys are tight lipped about their spots... and for good reason on the Vedder! nowadays it's tell one person, and next thing you know, your spot is filled with 30 guys next time you go there! To all newcomers: if someone is gracious enough to share some tips or spots with you, be respectful and show your appreciation by NOT blabbing about it to anyone else!!!
I completely agree. I fall within the category of enjoying the sport and having very few friends who are diehards. I like to get out but don't have all the gear or knowlege of where to go. I hit the flow maybe a dozen times a year and want to know what's happening and don't have all of the resources to figure out the seasonality since I'm out infrequently. Trying to get a grasp of the tides is tough enough with so few outings.
I don't expect people to disclose their favorite spots, nor will I ask them to, as I completely respect their privacy. As a newcomer, I look to discover what sepcies are running and in which system. As long as I know what species are running, I can do some legwork to explore the river and determine my best setup. This is what I hope will bring me success. This is why I'm part of FWR and I sincerely thank you all for your input into this forum. It's been a slow and steady process for me, but I'm gradually increasing mus success on the river.
Cheers! & thanks,
WR.
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I completely agree. I fall within the category of enjoying the sport and having very few friends who are diehards. I like to get out but don't have all the gear or knowlege of where to go. I hit the flow maybe a dozen times a year and want to know what's happening and don't have all of the resources to figure out the seasonality since I'm out infrequently. Trying to get a grasp of the tides is tough enough with so few outings.
I don't expect people to disclose their favorite spots, nor will I ask them to, as I completely respect their privacy. As a newcomer, I look to discover what sepcies are running and in which system. As long as I know what species are running, I can do some legwork to explore the river and determine my best setup. This is what I hope will bring me success. This is why I'm part of FWR and I sincerely thank you all for your input into this forum. It's been a slow and steady process for me, but I'm gradually increasing mus success on the river.
Cheers! & thanks,
WR.
Well put, I would have said exactly the same thing for myself. I have been at it for three years now and the process has been much the same though get out a bit more than twelve outings a year. My approach has been much the same and, of course, this forum has been very helpful.
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Myself am new to river fishing...only 2 years now, year before I was just going to local lakes. I started fishing as early as 6 or 7 with my grandfather every summer up at Pender Harbour mooching for salmon. My last trip up there fishing was in 1996, after that I used to tag along bar fishing with an uncle along the lower fraser for coho in the fall and it has easily been at least 12 years since I've done that. He fished the Stave regularly in the fall, but unfortunately for me he moved to the island almost 8 years ago now. Only recently after discovering the urban lake program and dusting off my old trout rod did I realize how much I missed fishing. Dug out some old but very good reels left to me by my grandfather and started looking at the rivers. I found this website through the ffsbc website and have found it very helpful for some basic information to get me started. I'm hooked and have been trying to learn as much as I can each time I hit the river.
I haven't had the chance to fish with an experienced angler yet but I have had some good days exploring the rivers on my own, fish or no fish I enjoy everyday I'm out there. I only wish I lived closer to the vedder lol, I've had success on the capilano but its not a consistent river due to the dam. Self education is part of the fun of fishing I think, you can learn alot while watching other anglers but you can also learn bad habits if you don't realize they're not something you should do. Having a relationship with your local tackle shop is a good thing to keep in mind as well, most guys who work in these shops are experienced anglers themselves and are willing to pass along advice.
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I think in this age of computers and internet alot of people dont want to spend the time and effort it takes to be a successful angler.They want to google all the answers on how,what,when and where.It doesnt work that way...if your not willing to pay your dues then dont take up the sport.
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I think in this age of computers and internet alot of people dont want to spend the time and effort it takes to be a successful angler.They want to google all the answers on how,what,when and where.It doesnt work that way...if your not willing to pay your dues then dont take up the sport.
This man speaks the truth ^^^^^^^^
It seems like nobody wants to put their time in anymore in this age of instant gratification. When i started river fishing i got skunked nearly every day for 2 years but one day the lightbulb came on and i was a river guide within 8 years. I have retired after 16 years and wouldn't go near the Veddar even if i was paid.
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I have retired after 16 years and wouldn't go near the Veddar even if i was paid.
The Vedder has about 20 km's of fishable water. When the salmon come in they move most of that distance to get back to the hatchery.
The tip is find a spot that others are not fishing in, the fish will come....... ;D
I'd be thrilled if someone paid me to fish as awesome a river as the Chilliwack / Vedder !!!
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This man speaks the truth ^^^^^^^^
It seems like nobody wants to put their time in anymore in this age of instant gratification. When i started river fishing i got skunked nearly every day for 2 years but one day the lightbulb came on and i was a river guide within 8 years. I have retired after 16 years and wouldn't go near the Veddar even if i was paid.
I dont blame you one bit.I hate the crowds...I put up with it in the winter months cause I live to Steelhead and can often find a good spot away from the masses and thats only because i keep my feet moving and cover alot of water in a day...hard work putting the miles in and the time it takes to be successful on the river.Heard alot of complaining that the fishing was slow last winter,for me it was one of my best seasons ever. ;D
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ChromeKings is totally correct that experience is the best teacher. However, one of the things that I think people can learn from the internet is ETHICS and COURTESY. It really irritates me how ignorant people can be on the river. I would think that common sense would prevail but there doesn't seem to be much of it in some people... I was fishing the Vedder this morning with my dad and this guy (clearly a newcomer) comes up and fishes right next to him, like ARMS LENGTH AWAY. There was lots of room elsewhere, but he had to stand right freakin there. My dad couldn't even cast properly after that. Where is this guy's head??? You can't just tell him to F*** off because the river belongs to everyone, but come on... Why don't some people think about how they would feel if they were in other people's shoes... would he have liked it if he was fishing by himself and some guy came and stood right beside him and crowded his space?? enough said.
another thing I can't freakin stand is people dragging wild coho onto the beach before unhooking it. Keep the fish in the water! even if you are by yourself, IT CAN BE DONE! These things can be learned from reading online forums... I hope LOTS of people read this one.
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I've been fishing my whole life, except the past few years which I've taken a step away to focus on other stuff going on, but now I'm back into the full swing and it's like dusting off an old hat or some other cliche, it comes back to you like that. I'm more than happy to give pointers to people who want to learn, I won't tell you all the special tricks because they change from run to run, day to day, river to river, and quite frankly I don't know them all. One of the more annoying things is people ask you to take them fishing and they expect to be into as many fish as you are, it's probably not going to work like that, it's going to take some time to understand the water and sort of grasp what you are presenting to the fish and what kind of behavioral patterns they are showing that day.
I didn't start off fishing for salmon, I started off fishing for small coarse fish and trout, it's a gradual process, but like it's been said the internet is giving people the ability to skip many years of trial and error.