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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sinaran on August 22, 2006, 04:58:42 PM

Title: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: Sinaran on August 22, 2006, 04:58:42 PM
woke up at 4am today( not easy especially on a dayoff) and headed to my destination. an hour and half later i am attempting to make my first cast at seabird island. my second trip to this bar and my second trial on sockeye in as many weeks. i was so determined to hook my first sockeye ever this time, and i believed i could make it. then there u go, first cast bam! fish on... it was on for a few second and went loose. i was thinking, wow, lots of action today and i am gonna get my first for sure !   then second cast, snag.....lost my rig, that's ok, i could re-rig, took me few mins and set i was ready to go again.. third cast, know what, the same thing, snag again.. different spot. lost my rig again and had to re-rig it. i moved a little downstream to avoid the snag. it didn't help, just shortly after the bouncie hit the bottom, i got snag again...... an hour later, i hooked into a fish, i got so excited and spirited, i finally hooked a fish!!!  i reeled it in carefully and just when i saw the chrome body of it and was gonna haul it up the bar, it jumped and the hook went bouncing up in the air..ok, no problem, i would keep trying. not gonna give up easily. the first one is always hard to get anyways.  then an hour and half later, i lost all my gear (bouncing betties, hooks, corky and even leader line!!)to the snags, ended up the i had to buy some from the guys who were leaving, paid like $20 for 9  2ounce BBs. man if u r reading this post, u did me a big favor , saved me a long trip to the local tackle shop.  know what, an hour later, i lost them all again.  :-[ :-[on different spots too. i don't know why this happened to me though, seemed like the snag were just hitting on me all day long. everybody was leaving with their limits, even the kid fishing below me brought two in. all this is saying I AM JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!  :'( :'( :'(
the DFO lady who was doing the survey there gave me a helping hand by rigging up for me. thanks lady u r just great.!  i left at around 12pm. expensive outing and eneded up in disappointment.  :-\
that's it for me and i am giving up on this sockeye madness because it has really turned on my madness!  i would stop whining now and good luck guys
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: GoldHammeredCroc on August 22, 2006, 05:25:35 PM
Try braided line if you don't have it spooled up.  I used to lose a fair amount of gear but you solve that by going to a tougher and more sensitive line.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: Big Steel on August 22, 2006, 07:11:01 PM
Sinaran I will be at seabird saturday and sunday come meet up with me and i will show you how its done  ;)
I will second the Freak on this one!!  Ever since I showed him how it was done, he has been slaying them every trip!!  You know Freak, you never really thanked me for getting you onto that spot!!  I wasn't lying about it was I!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: Big Steel on August 22, 2006, 08:24:56 PM
Thanks Dave much love
That didn't seem like it was very sincere!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: Sam Salmon on August 22, 2006, 08:30:32 PM
Using too muuch weight-why else are you getting caught on bottom all the time! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: THE_ROE_SLINGER on August 22, 2006, 09:02:21 PM
saturday i also might make it out ;), lol sinaran, your day sound like mines and biffchan, We  must of snagged up 6-7 times each ;D
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: Sinaran on August 22, 2006, 10:06:39 PM
Sinaran I will be at seabird saturday and sunday come meet up with me and i will show you how its done  ;)
great, thanks man, it would always be nice to learn from the pro. the reports u posted here really jealous me! :)   
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: BigFisher on August 22, 2006, 10:50:06 PM
OMG I wasnt the only one at Sea Bird with this problem! SNAG BIRD! >:(
Where abouts were you fishing on the bar?
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: Steelhawk on August 23, 2006, 12:56:46 AM
Sinaran, don't fish the really top end of Seabird where every one stands in the water. Lots of snags unless you retrieve really fast. Also try to avoid casting too far upstream. Cast 11 or 12 oclock, then reel in slack line before letting it bounce, and don't let out line when bouncing until you are good at controlling the bounce. If you used 3 oz, try to switch to 2 oz. Good luck.
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: scruffy on August 23, 2006, 02:15:50 AM
i found that using 2oz are the perfect weight for that bar as anything bigger you'll get snagged up  ;)and using braided line also helps,good luck and don't give up it's just a matter of time before you can't keep them off provided that they don't shut down anytime soon.
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: firstlight on August 23, 2006, 09:03:20 AM
Geez thats just great.
Just proves how much line and crap this fishery leaves behind.
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: Big Steel on August 23, 2006, 12:02:52 PM
Geez thats just great.
Just proves how much line and crap this fishery leaves behind.
Hey Bruce, your cranky, go catch a fish!!  BTW, I also left with 2 fish early this morning and a bag of line and garbage.  If everyone just tidied up around them a bit, there wouldn't be this problem!! ;)
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: chris gadsden on August 23, 2006, 01:59:41 PM
Once again thanks for cleaning up the line etc. BS. It seems this is starting to catch on by a lot of people, good work by all.
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: oddjob on August 25, 2006, 03:59:32 PM
I have never been to seabird , how early do you go to get a spot ? Do fishermen wade out or are they casting from shore ? How far is it past mission ? The reason why I am asking is I would like to catch my first sockeye of the year. I am one of those that get snagged 6 or 7 times loosing all my tackle . I will try to make it out .
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: Geff_t on August 25, 2006, 04:05:42 PM
Seabird is just east of agassiz and a couple of km past seabird island cafe. There are areas with a few snags and we get there pretty early just to get the spot that we want. Once you make a few casts you can pretty easily figure out how to avoid the snag in front of you. I suggest that you fish with tuff line to make it easier to get out of the snag if you happen to get into it.

Tight lines.
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: pepsitrev on August 25, 2006, 04:35:24 PM
(http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/sobbing.gif) damm snags anyways. seems like picking up line and garbage is really catching on from all members of this board congrats to all of you we can make the rivers a nicer and cleaner place to fish and at the same time protect the inocent animals that get affected by all the junk left behind by other fishermen who just dont give a hoot when they pollute.job well done FWR members(http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/clap.gif)(http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/clap.gif)
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: oddjob on August 25, 2006, 04:45:21 PM
what weight of leader is best at seabird and what length ?
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: oddjob on August 25, 2006, 07:53:42 PM
what is the easiest way to seabird ?  take lougheed or hyway 1 to rosedale bridge then lougheed I am coming from burnaby .
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: Fish Assassin on August 25, 2006, 08:17:27 PM
what is the easiest way to seabird ?  take lougheed or hyway 1 to rosedale bridge then lougheed I am coming from burnaby .

Hwy 1
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: Steelhawk on August 28, 2006, 10:52:14 PM
Oddjob, if you only hook up to sockeyes, then even leaders of 8-12 lb will do. Ah, the problem is, you may hook into a spring, and every one around you don't want to wait for you forever to land it...  ;D  Also, what happens when your skinny line crosses up with a snagged betty with a beefy leader of 30+ lbs strength? You lose every time. That is the tough dilemma.  ;D

Seabird bar has 3 sections. The top end is where every body stands in the water with wader. It is quite snaggy inside, and a slower retrieve of 3 oz weight will risk losing it quite easily. The section from the top to the start of the crescent-shape bar is very slow & deep inside, making it tough to bounce. Very few people fish it. Then the start of the crescent bar is the deeper spot where springs like to sit. Fish there if you want a higher chance to hook into a monster.  The shallower section below is also good for spring, but more so for sockeye. You should try to cast medium distance. Overcasting can get into snags, as well as too close to shore. As a rule to avoid snagging, try to cast 11 to 12 oclock, reel in slack line before bouncing, and maintain a tight tension in your line. Also retrieve earlier if you find snags closer in.

Good luck and tight line.
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: oddjob on August 28, 2006, 11:05:15 PM
most of the other fishermen around me were using braided line and farly heavy leaders , I got tangled several times . I was using 14 lb leaders @ 10 feet in lengh .
Title: Re: Just whining........ (too all the sockeye heros)
Post by: oddjob on August 28, 2006, 11:14:03 PM
the crescent area or the bay area was full of people so I had to back to where there was an opening .When I cast at 11 the snag is around 12 os slightly before 1, sometimes I get everything back ,and sometimes I only loose the hook but most times I loose everything .