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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rodney on August 24, 2012, 02:00:52 PM

Title: What's this? #8
Post by: Rodney on August 24, 2012, 02:00:52 PM
Mystery fish #8 is now online!

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/contests/index.html

Thanks Dion for supplying the photo! ;)

Our mystery fish contest is a new fun project on the website that aims to help our readers in fish identification. If you get it right, you have a chance to win the featured draw prize. ;)

Mystery fish #1 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=28826.0)

Mystery fish #2 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=28970.0)

Mystery fish #3 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=29169.0)

Mystery fish #4 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=29370.0)

Mystery fish #5 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=29594.0)

Mystery fish #6 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=29881.0)

Mystery fish #7 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=30136.0)
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Rodney on August 29, 2012, 12:12:52 PM
Bump! Two days left!
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Rodney on August 31, 2012, 07:41:20 PM
Contest is now over! Did you get it right?

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/contests/2012-08-species-contest.html
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Rantalot on August 31, 2012, 09:00:15 PM
The Tench (Tinca tinca) or doctor fish, also known as Линь in Russian, is a freshwater and brackish water fish of the Cyprinid family, Carp family found throughout Eurasia from Western Europe including the British Isles east into Asia as far as the Ob and Yenisei Rivers. It is also found in Lake Baikal. It normally inhabits slow-moving freshwater habitats, particularly lakes and lowland rivers.[

 So was my answer incorrect i put carp but in brackets put (Tench) ?
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Rodney on August 31, 2012, 10:03:51 PM
It is sort of dumb that it says BC fish and It looks like a smallmouth yellow fish or a carp with small scales which aren't in BC..

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The specimen in this photograph was caught at Christina Lake in the Kootenay Region.
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: DanJohn on August 31, 2012, 11:11:29 PM
I said Carp as well. I am fine with being wrong though. Any of the other contests, had I said "Salmon" I would not have expected it to be right. Sure, it is a carp, its a part of the carp family, but that answer isnt really right. I am find with being wrong on this one. I dont know much about those fish, and blegh, I wouldnt mind never catching one. Ill stick to my salmons, trouts and chars.
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Sandman on September 01, 2012, 07:27:30 AM
Well I was one of the 26 that said tench and I still did not win.  My luck is all bad. :'(
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: DionJL on September 01, 2012, 01:58:27 PM
For the record I caught that fish in BC and I had no clue what it was either. I sent Rodney that picture and asked him. Then I contacted the Conservation Officer's service to ask if they were aware that these fish had moved into Christina Lake (which is actually in Region 8 - Okanogan, not Kootenay as Rodney stated). They responded as follows:

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Hi Dion.
 
You’re right, that’s a tench.
 
Fish and Wildlife has been aware of a number of non-native species including tench in Christina Lake for some time. Due to the lake’s size, eradication is not practical and even control may not be feasible for these various species.
It’s possible that people introduced them (illegally) to Christina Lake, and also that they are swimming upstream from Roosevelt Reservoir, the Kettle R. and Christina Creek.
Increases in numbers are more likely from these fish colonizing and breeding in the lake, and not from more abundant immigration or large scale illegal transplants.
 
Thanks for the note and photo – Jeff
 
Jeff Burrows
Senior Fish Biologist
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Rantalot on September 01, 2012, 07:01:35 PM
So how come no one answered my question????
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Rantalot on September 01, 2012, 09:50:00 PM
Geesh and how does that answer my question???? Rod said it's not of the carp family but the post i copied and pasted say's other wise and my answer was once agian a  carp with (Tench) beside it.So which is it can we have an unbiased judge settle this:)
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2012, 10:34:00 PM
Where did I say it's not in the carp family?
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Quin on September 01, 2012, 10:48:57 PM
I think the problem is people use the term "Carp" family. It's true in the broad sense, I think it's used because people are familiar with carp. People see "Carp" but don't see "family"
Carp and tench belong to the cyprinid family. Northern pike minnow(squawfish) and the aquarium zebra danio are members as well. It could be said it belongs to the pike minnow family.

So what it's worth (IMHO), your right it's a tench but wrong that it's a carp, but it belongs to the same family. So count yourself amongst the 25+ who got it right.
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Rantalot on September 01, 2012, 10:52:27 PM
"and it is closely related to carp" ???Either you corected an error or i just plain done read it wrong:)
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2012, 11:05:53 PM
Yeah, you read it wrong.
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2012, 11:07:44 PM
I think the problem is people use the term "Carp" family. It's true in the broad sense, I think it's used because people are familiar with carp. People see "Carp" but don't see "family"
Carp and tench belong to the cyprinid family. Northern pike minnow(squawfish) and the aquarium zebra danio are members as well. It could be said it belongs to the pike minnow family.

So what it's worth (IMHO), your right it's a tench but wrong that it's a carp, but it belongs to the same family. So count yourself amongst the 25+ who got it right.


Yep, what we're looking for in these contests is the exact common name or scientific name of the species, not just the name of the family that it belongs to. As long as the name tench was mentioned, your answer was counted as correct.
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: DavidD on September 02, 2012, 08:26:29 AM
I intially thought it was an oversized goldfish - but then noticed the mouth area to being similar to a carp but then noticed that scales were very different.  Spent quite some time looking up BC fish.  I din't even try to 'Guess'!

Appears that we should become more aware of the non-native fishes that are being introduced into our lakes / rivers.

Nice challenge Rod and Dion!
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Sterling C on September 03, 2012, 08:29:53 PM
For the record I caught that fish in BC and I had no clue what it was either. I sent Rodney that picture and asked him. Then I contacted the Conservation Officer's service to ask if they were aware that these fish had moved into Christina Lake (which is actually in Region 8 - Okanogan, not Kootenay as Rodney stated). They responded as follows:


I did a little background research on Tench in BC and apparently they've been in Christina Lake for close to 100 years!  :o
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: DionJL on September 04, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
I did a little background research on Tench in BC and apparently they've been in Christina Lake for close to 100 years!  :o

I've been going to Christina every year since I was a child and I've never come across one until this year. The one I caught was swimming around with another Tench of approximately the same size.
Title: Re: What's this? #8
Post by: Tadpole on September 04, 2012, 06:13:22 PM
Ah tench! Very tasty fish with  hint of sweetness in the flesh. They are very slimy  and rather difficult to catch. Some Europeans specialize in targeting them. There is a rumor that Vaseux lake has them as well.