Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: halcyonguitars on September 09, 2015, 09:48:16 PM
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This is my first year fishing for salmon, so I sometimes find the regs pretty confusing. I try to stay aware of updates and changes, but I sometimes see what appears to me as contradictions.
On the Fraser River regs, it says 'coastwide daily limit for chinook: 2
Then immediately underneath where it breaks down limit by species, it says daily limit for chinook is 4.
Anyone shed some light?
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I would always just go with the most restrictive rule, or statement.
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It indeed contradicts each other. The coast wide daily limit applies to saltwater areas. The tidal portion of a river is managed differently to the saltwater, that's why you see the same daily quota for both the tidal and non-tidal of the Fraser.
I'll send a memo in to make sure they make this correction tomorrow.
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This is my first year fishing for salmon, so I sometimes find the regs pretty confusing. I try to stay aware of updates and changes, but I sometimes see what appears to me as contradictions.
On the Fraser River regs, it says 'coastwide daily limit for chinook: 2
Then immediately underneath where it breaks down limit by species, it says daily limit for chinook is 4.
Anyone shed some light?
Not actually a contradiction at all. It is similar to a provincial water specific regulation limiting the quota on a particular river being greater or less than the regional quota. The first is what it says: a coast wide quota of two. The Fraser quota was increase to 4 on August 29 under Fishery Notice 0991.
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It indeed contradicts each other. The coast wide daily limit applies to saltwater areas. The tidal portion of a river is managed differently to the saltwater, that's why you see the same daily quota for both the tidal and non-tidal of the Fraser.
I'll send a memo in to make sure they make this correction tomorrow.
DFO should put you on their payroll to correct their mistakes. ;)
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i dunno know bout u guys... but sometimes i feel like consulting a lawyer before i go fish lol
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If you reach your limit of 2 pinks can you still fish? Catch and release? I saw 2 guys yelling at the other fisherman asking him to stop fishing since he had reached his limit of 2. He didn't keep more than 2 though.
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Absolutely legal. You can C&R pinks all day long if you want. The requirement to stop fishing once retaining your limit is for steelhead
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If you reach your limit of 2 pinks can you still fish? Catch and release? I saw 2 guys yelling at the other fisherman asking him to stop fishing since he had reached his limit of 2. He didn't keep more than 2 though.
May be they want their fishing spot... ;D
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More of an ethical thing but I suppose he is now targeting springs... On the lower...
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A limit on springs over a certain size also applies. It's typically one fish over 50 or 62 cm depending on the river and the season.
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If you reach your limit of 2 pinks can you still fish? Catch and release? I saw 2 guys yelling at the other fisherman asking him to stop fishing since he had reached his limit of 2. He didn't keep more than 2 though.
Haha gotta love the wanna-be fish cops who don't understand the rules themselves :'(
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Haha gotta love the wanna-be fish cops who don't understand the rules themselves :'(
x2 They are everywhere..
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So you can take 2 from the ocean but 4 from the rivers?
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So you can take 2 from the ocean but 4 from the rivers?
I believe limit is generally 4 unless otherwise stated. If it is stated in a particular area, then that is the limit you can take from that area. If the limit of pinks on the Vedder is 4 and fraser is 2, you can take 2 from fraser and 2 more that day from the Vedder or vise versa. The Limit of all salmon total is usually 4 per day.
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So you can take 2 from the ocean but 4 from the rivers?
For Pinks on the Fraser and Vedder it has been 2 each. These pages are updated when the regulations change.
Region 2 Lower Mainland.
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html
Tidal Fraser:
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/tidal-maree/fraser-eng.html
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I believe limit is generally 4 unless otherwise stated. If it is stated in a particular area, then that is the limit you can take from that area. If the limit of pinks on the Vedder is 4 and fraser is 2, you can take 2 from fraser and 2 more that day from the Vedder or vise versa.
I would be careful with that vice versa scenario. If you take two from the Vedder then go to Fraser and get a couple more, unless you can prove you were at the Vedder earlier that day, a CO might reasonably conclude that you took over your limit from the Fraser. While nothing inherently illegal about it, the regs suggest you do not possess more than the limit for the particular body of water you are at.
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I would be careful with that vice versa scenario. If you take two from the Vedder then go to Fraser and get a couple more, unless you can prove you were at the Vedder earlier that day, a CO might reasonably conclude that you took over your limit from the Fraser. While nothing inherently illegal about it, the regs suggest you do not possess more than the limit for the particular body of water you are at.
Except the regulations still state that the possession limit is two daily limits, right? So you should still be allowed to possess 4 on the Fraser, but only keep 2 from that water per day, right?
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I believe two daily limits refers to two separate days. eg. if you camped out there overnight and caught two each day. Like I said, there is nothing inherently wrong with taking 2 from the Vedder then 2 from the Fraser, but if you get checked, I think the onus is on you to prove you didnt take all 4 from the Fraser on the same day...
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I believe two daily limits refers to two separate days. eg. if you camped out there overnight and caught two each day. Like I said, there is nothing inherently wrong with taking 2 from the Vedder then 2 from the Fraser, but if you get checked, I think the onus is on you to prove you didnt take all 4 from the Fraser on the same day...
I agree that the point of the 2 daily limits is to allow you to fish 2 days, but to me this should mean that there is no presumption of illegality if you possess 4 pinks, since the regulations explicitly state that it is legal to do so. This would be less of an issue if you were required to write down every salmon that you killed (like you do down in Washington), but it is a pain in the behind to write down every pink you kill.
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Not sure if this helps some of you...
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/points/salmon-saumon-eng.html
"The daily limit for all species of Pacific salmon from tidal and fresh waters combined is four. Individual species limits also apply."
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the stated limits per day extend across all streams and tidal water. It's 2 pinks period and a total of 4 salmon.
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the stated limits per day extend across all streams and tidal water. It's 2 pinks period and a total of 4 salmon.
Hmmm according to this page the limit in 29-1 to 29-5 and 29-8 for pinks is 4?
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/tidal-maree/a-s29-eng.html
Based on that, I dont believe that there is a region wide daily limit for pinks other than the limit of 4 (all salmon species combined) unless I've overlooked something?
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Ok, so it's not just me that gets confused from time to time..,;)
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the stated limits per day extend across all streams and tidal water. It's 2 pinks period and a total of 4 salmon.
I don't think so , tidal water of fraser - maybe .