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[dobrolub]

late summer

[RalphH]

I suspect gillnet fisheries for pink and chum are part of it. Nothing survives once it hits a gillnet. Watching the test fisheries they get a steelhead once in awhile. Hardly ever says released.

Chinook stocks have been doing okay too since we have seen bad sockeye run and hardly any commercial gillnet fisheries for sockeye. I also read a report that stated chinook stocks that are part of a river system that has a lake have been increasing over recent years.

When sockeye and pink gillnets are down they clean up everything.

I am sure there is so much more to it

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As I said it's a correlation. Correlation does not mean causation. Also it is based on ocean wide Pacific stocks - not just the Fraser or BC etc.

However the implication was that the huge numbers of pinks that are in the Pacific, mostly from Siberia and commercially under exploited relative to pinks in Alaska and BC, consume available feed relative to steelhead.

[RalphH]

Matter of time when pikeminnows become the new pinks and we have Rodney to blame.

after that it will be carp!

[BananasQ]

Still awfully slow on the beaches

Here's hoping it picks up soon - I have three kids chomping at the bit for beach trip #1 on Monday. May have to pack a bucket and spade or two too.

[wildmanyeah]

I had no idea that steelhead had such a big ocean migration route, pretty close to sockeyes.

[RalphH]

I went last week and early this week. Fish numbers were low both days though angler numbers jumped markedly, up 4 or 5 times at least, last week to this week.

I stayed optimistic in 2015 though the returns ended up being much less than half the pre-season estimate.

Right now I am not optimistic that the North Shore - Squamish runs will meet expectations. I am also thinking limits in Howe Sound need to be reduced from the current 4.

That said there have been summers in the past where it switched on in the last 10 days of July. Wait and see.

[Ambassador]

Right now I am not optimistic that the North Shore - Squamish runs will meet expectations. I am also thinking limits in Howe Sound need to be reduced from the current 4.

I agree. Furry Creek is going to be twice as busy this summer with Squamish river Pink retention dropped to 1. :-(

[BananasQ]

Anyone know much about other runs - Sunshine Coast for example? I plan to try there a bit this year.

[fic]

Anyone know much about other runs - Sunshine Coast for example? I plan to try there a bit this year.

You can get your 4 Pinks per person at Campbell River/Quinsam and your 1 Sockeye at the Somass.  I would contact a few tackle shops before going though, as some of them exaggerate more than others.

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region1-eng.html

[Easywater]

Some better numbers in the San Juan area 20 gillnet test fishery (15 to 25 a day) in the last 2 days.
http://www.psc.org/TestFish/Area20GNsummary.PDF

These are Fraser fish coming around the bottom of Vancouver Island.
Things look a little later than 2015 - they had decent numbers (~40) right from the start on July 13.

The real story will be told in the Area 12 seine results which should start July 21.

[96XJ]

Anyone know much about other runs - Sunshine Coast for example? I plan to try there a bit this year.

Lower Sunshine Coast is region 29-1 , which allows 4 pinks per day

Upper Sunshine Coast is region 16 which allows 4 per day as well

[Wool]

Spent the full day thru the Squamish and nothing. Stopped at Furry Creek and seen nothing.

Last year we were on fish 13th of July.

 2 years ago first pink was the 23 July.

 Water clarity is still milky.

  We had 2 seals follow us for for a kilometre, says it all.

  Thought I would save someone gas and time.

[wildmanyeah]

I was sealed at point Atkinson on Sunday afternoon. Was fighting it on the surface seal grabbed it and broke me off. Fished for a bit longer and it was following us as we trolled so just packed up and left.

[Tenz85]

Spent the full day thru the Squamish and nothing. Stopped at Furry Creek and seen nothing.

Last year we were on fish 13th of July.

 2 years ago first pink was the 23 July.

 Water clarity is still milky.

  We had 2 seals follow us for for a kilometre, says it all.

  Thought I would save someone gas and time.

Last year july 13th on island pinks? Maybe Coho or chinook?

Edit - ohhh thru squamish.. disregard

[Hoop71]

Spent the full day thru the Squamish and nothing. Stopped at Furry Creek and seen nothing.

Last year we were on fish 13th of July.

 2 years ago first pink was the 23 July.

 Water clarity is still milky.

  We had 2 seals follow us for for a kilometre, says it all.

  Thought I would save someone gas and time.

There was no pink run last year (I'm assuming you are talking Squamish as that is what you were referencing) so I'm not sure where the July 13th reference is from.

Patience people, they are on the way.