Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Colersmom on October 05, 2023, 07:39:48 PM
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What are the best colours of soft beads? I want to go out with my uncle to try for chinook sometime this month...
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There isnt a best color bead, i tend to use bright color during cloudy days and less bright/flashy when its sunny.
You can also use a wool in the shape of a single egg or get cleardrift beads which are cheaper than BnRs
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Personally there are several colours and sizes that I really like when water is clear and low like this. 10mm and 12mm mottled red, mottled cerise, mottled orange, clown, joker.
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Is ten pound mono sufficient for a leader, or do I need to go heavier?
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Is ten pound mono sufficient for a leader, or do I need to go heavier?
I generally use 10lb Maxima Green for coho. If the fish are leader shy try 8 but coho generally aren't. For springs I'd go to 12 or even 15. lots of people use Fluorocarbon these days.
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I generally use 10lb Maxima Green for coho. If the fish are leader shy try 8 but coho generally aren't. For springs I'd go to 12 or even 15. lots of people use Fluorocarbon these days.
Something worth noting is that Maxima Ultragreen is way thicker than equivalent mono for other brands, for example the Orvis Superstrong plus Mono which is my preferred one is 0.009 inches thick for the 9.8 lb rate while Maxima Ultragreen 6lb is 0.009 thick which to me is crazy. Of course Maxima Ultragreen has a reputation of being unbreakable! At the expense of using the thickest line ever lol
I do agree that 10lb is fine most of the time for Coho but I'd recommend 12lb (unless is Maxima Ultragreen lol) so you get a bit of wiggle room for things like fish trashing around or just handle bigger fish.
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fished with my uncle today, using 8 pound fluro. Seemed to be the ticket today as he got more bites than other people that I saw. 8mm soft bead i think. I was 12 pound mono and he definitely got more bites, both of us fishing the same area.
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fished with my uncle today, using 8 pound fluro. Seemed to be the ticket today as he got more bites than other people that I saw. 8mm soft bead i think. I was 12 pound mono and he definitely got more bites, both of us fishing the same area.
Mono is more buoyant than fluoro and also thicker....12 fluoro would be fine.
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thin lines with high breaking strength are not really strong lines. They are more prone to abrasion damage etc. much of their strength may due to their elasticity. I buy ultragreen in 100 yard spools which makes it cheaper than 30 yard spools of fly leader. I have that stuff too but use it more for trout & small flies. Fluorocarbon has about 20% lower knot strength than mono. I have never really liked the stuff. The fact it about 10% higher density than water, so it sinks, is it's only major advantage in my experience.
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I recently came across an article by Rod ( of Bent Rod fame ) . In the piece he said he had better luck with beads hanging them from the hook like a roe sac rather than pegging the bead above the hook . Anyone care to comment on this technique ?
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I recently came across an article by Rod ( of Bent Rod fame ) . In the piece he said he had better luck with beads hanging them from the hook like a roe sac rather than pegging the bead above the hook . Anyone care to comment on this technique ?
I tried it last friday and got a jack chinook hooked top lip on the nose. Didn't even set the hook Although I also got a hatch coho in the corner mouth that morning pegging the bead. Both definitely work.
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I recently came across an article by Rod ( of Bent Rod fame ) . In the piece he said he had better luck with beads hanging them from the hook like a roe sac rather than pegging the bead above the hook . Anyone care to comment on this technique ?
Makes sense. The pegging method which is the rage right now was originally invented to prevent the fish from swallowing the hook. It was never designed to increase hookups.
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Makes sense. The pegging method which is the rage right now was originally invented to prevent the fish from swallowing the hook. It was never designed to increase hookups.
Pegging method has much higher catching ratio. It is also good in snagging the fish. No salmon will swallow hook
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Back in days when beads wasn't around I would used a big strands of peachy yarns and put it through the bait loop and trim it to look like a single egg. Work really well.
Silex-user
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Back in days when beads wasn't around I would used a big strands of peachy yarns and put it through the bait loop and trim it to look like a single egg. Work really well.
Silex-user
Ah, the simple days of wool. Chartreuse wool worked well too. Then you would get into blending colours: peach and red formed a nice contrast. The days when your vest pockets were bulging with wool and it looked like you were carrying Joseph’s Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat. 😀
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Ah, the simple days of wool. Chartreuse wool worked well too. Then you would get into blending colours: peach and red formed a nice contrast. The days when your vest pockets were bulging with wool and it looked like you were carrying Joseph’s Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat. 😀
been trying chartreuse wool a lot this season. no luck yet. Starting to think wool may not be as effective as it was in the past.
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been trying chartreuse wool a lot this season. no luck yet. Starting to think wool may not be as effective as it was in the past.
FWIW, yesterday on the Vedder my buddy caught three hatchery coho on orange wool when nobody else was getting bites. His leader was under two feet long, his hook with the ultra-tiny bit of yarn proved deadly when nothing else worked. In every instance, the hook with the yarn were inhaled by the fish.
He explained to me that a size 2 hook (which is his to-go hook size for coho) drifts perfectly in the water column with just a tiny little bit of yarn.
Curiously, no other type of salmon hit the setup, even though there were chum, pink and spring jacks in the mix. Thinking about it, the size of the yarn on his hook was no bigger than your average coho single egg (3-4mm in diameter).
Maybe that was the decisive factor for his success?