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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: chris gadsden on May 26, 2011, 12:58:45 PM
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Check out the derby info here and click on the link for the derby poster. It is a great derby to bring the children to, lots of displays, great food and great prizes even if you donot catch a pikeminnow.
http://www.fraservalleysalmonsociety.ca/derby.html
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7 of us and went tagging pike minnows for the derby today on Cultus Lake. Rodney and Nina also came to do some filming of the fishing. We tagged 33 pike minnows and there has been about 84 now tagged this year. A tagged pike minnow caught on derby day is worth from $100 to $500 depending on how many are caught. Last year there was only one caught and the fish gave the lucky angler $500. I was outfished by most only landing 4 fish big enough to be tagged. It was a beautiful day on the lake and was very calm until about 4:00 when the wind came up.
Derby tickets are now on sale at Freds Custom Tackle, Chilliwack Dart and Tackle, Rosedale Mini Mart and Kent Outdoors.
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Also forgot to mention 3 nice cutthroat were caught along with some chub, suckers and sculpins.
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Here is Rodney's video of the Pike minnow tagging yesterday at Cultus Lake for the derby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqgWFgO70Dc
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The derby only one week away tomorrow so do not forget to get your tickets. 75% of the prizes are drawn from tickets bought before the day of the derby so you do not even have to catch a fish to win some great prizes.
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sorry if I've missed it, but is there a prize for "biggest entry"? or top 3 biggest fish or something? And if so, what was the prize for biggest last year?
thanks.
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sorry if I've missed it, but is there a prize for "biggest entry"? or top 3 biggest fish or something? And if so, what was the prize for biggest last year?
thanks.
Yes for boys and girls. They both won bikes. I believe the adult winner won a float tube. Lots of good prizes this year again, bikes, BBQ, 8 camera's, PVR to name a few of the major prizes that I know of.
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Major prize list plus 180 draw prizes.
GREG CLARK MEMORIAL FAMILY FISHING DERBY 2011
FISH CATCHING CATEGORIES:
1) LARGEST PIKE MINNOW BY A JUNIOR—GREG CLARK MEMORIAL TROPHY AND KEEPER TROPHY
2) LARGEST PIKE MINNOW BY A JUNIOR GIRL—MOUNTAIN BIKE AND RIDING GEAR
3) 2ND LARGEST PIKE MINNOW BY A JUNIOR GIRL—DIGITAL CAMERA , 4GB CARD, ROD/REEL COMBO, TACKLE BOX AND TACKLE
4) 3RD LARGEST PIKE MINNOW BY A JUNIOR GIRL—DIGITAL CAMERA, 4GB CARD, TACKLE BOX AND TACKLE
5) LARGEST PIKE MINNOW BY A JUNIOR BOY—MOUNTAIN BIKE AND RIDING GEAR
6) 2ND LARGEST PIKE MINNOW BY A JUNIOR BOY—DIGITAL CAMERA, 4GB CARD, ROD/REEL COMBO, TACKLE BOX AND TACKLE
7) 3RD LARGEST PIKE MINNOW BY A JUNIOR BOY--DIGITAL CAMERA, 4GB CARD, TACKLE BOX AND TACKLE
8) LARGEST PIKE MINNOW BY AN ADULT—FISH CAT U-BOAT, ROD/REEL COMBO, TACKLE BOX AND TACKLE
9) 2ND LARGEST PIKE MINNOW BY AN ADULT--PORTABLE BARBECUE, ROD/REEL COMBO
10) 3RD LARGEST PIKE MINNOW BY AN ADULT—ROD/REEL COMBO, TACKLE BOX AND TACKLE
11) HIDDEN WEIGHT BY A JUNIOR GIRL (DRAW TICKET)—DIGITAL CAMERA AND 4GB CARD
12) HIDDEN WEIGHT BY A JUNIOR BOY (DRAW TICKET)---DIGITAL CAMERA AND 4GB CARD
13) HIDDEN WEIGHT BY AN ADULT (DRAW TICKET)---BREATHABLE CHEST WADERS AND GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR WADING BOOTS
14) MOST PIKE MINNOWS BY A JUNIOR GIRL—DIGITAL CAMERA,4GB CARD, ROD/REEL COMBO, TACKLE BOX AND TACKLE
15) MOST PIKE MINNOWS BY A JUNIOR BOY—DIGITAL CAMERA, 4GB CARD, ROD/REEL COMBO, TACKLE BOX AND TACKLE
16) MOST PIKE MINNOWS BY AN ADULT—FISH CAT U-BOAT, ROD/REEL COMBO, TACKLE BOX AND TACKLE
17) 2 ND MOST PIKE MINNOWS BY AN ADULT—PORTABLE BARBECUE, ROD/REEL COMBO
18) BILL OTWAY MEMORIAL PRIZE DRAW—SHAW CABLE PVR AND DIGITAL EXPANDER
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GREG CLARK MEMORIAL FAMILY FISHING DERBY 2011
TAGGED FISH RULES:
ALL TAGGED FISH ARE WORTH MONEY!!!
SHORT STRAIGHT TAGS (ANY COLOUR) ARE WORTH----$25 EACH
CIRCLE TAGS IN YELLOW OR FLORESCENT ORANGE ARE “SPECIAL TAGS” AND WORTH NO LESS THAN $100 AND UP TO $500 DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT CAUGHT.THERE WILL BE A MAXIMUM $1000 LIMIT FOR “SPECIAL” (CIRCLE ) TAGS CAUGHT UNLESS THERE ARE MORE THAN 10 TAGS TURNED IN. IN THIS CASE THEY WILL ALL BE WORTH $100 EACH. IF NONE OF THESE “SPECIAL” ( CIRCLE )TAGGED FISH ARE CAUGHT THAN THERE WILL BE 10 --$100 CASH DRAWS .
THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE WILL TAKE PLACE ONLY IF ONE OR MORE OF THE “SPECIAL” (CIRCLE) TAGGED FISH ARE CAUGHT:
1 TAG CAUGHT THEN PAYOUT IS $500 AND 10---$50 DRAWS FOR A TOTAL OF $1000
2 TAGS CAUGHT THEN PAYOUT IS $250 EACH AND 10---$50 DRAWS FOR A TOTAL PAYOUT OF $1000
3 TAGS CAUGHT THEN PAYOUT IS $167 EACH AND 10 ---$50 DRAWS FOR A TOTAL PAYOUT OF $1000
4 TAGS CAUGHT THEN PAYOUT IS $125 EACH AND 10---$50 DRAWS FOR A TOTAL PAYOUT OF $1000
5 TAGS CAUGHT THEN PAYOUT IS $100 EACH AND 10 ---$50 DRAWS FOR A TOTAL PAYOUT OF $1000
6 TAGS CAUGHT THEN PAYOUT IS $100 EACH AND 8-----$50 DRAWS FOR A TOTAL PAYOUT OF $1000
7 TAGS CAUGHT THEN PAYOUT IS $100 EACH AND 6----$50 DRAWS FOR A TOTAL PAYOUT OF $1000
8 TAGS CAUGHT THEN PAYOUT IS $100 EACH AND 4----$50 DRAWS FOR A TOTAL PAYOUT OF $1000
9 TAGS CAUGHT THEN PAYOUT IS $100 EACH AND 2----$50 DRAWS FOR A TOTAL PAYOUT OF $1000
10 TAGS OR MORE CAUGHT THEN PAYOUT IS $100 EACH AND THERE WILL BE NO DRAWS.
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Got my ticket and hope to be there. I love that derby. :)
What are the GPS corordinants where the tagged fish were dropped off? ;)
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Got my ticket and hope to be there. I love that derby. :)
What are the GPS corordinants where the tagged fish were dropped off? ;)
All locations of the lake, I belive there was 108 tagged the last 3 weeks. One was recaptured last week so a good chance someone will get one on derby day.
Glad you are taking part in the derby again this year.
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any word on what time the boat launch gate will be opened at.
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any word on what time the boat launch gate will be opened at.
Jade Bay at daylight if I donot sleep in. ;D ;D
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thanks. see you there.
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any good tips on how to catch pike minnos
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any good tips on how to catch pike minnos
never done it at cultus, but in the 'hope river' slough me and a buddy have the same derby every time we can get out there. we have the most luck from shore, worm and bobber. they like flatfish there too, but like i said. different game all together maybe? i am curious as well, i am going to be at the derby but i have never done it before. i had heard about it when i was younger, but its nice to see the rename, only met greg a couple times with my friends dad, gary, but he was a great guy.
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im going to be bringing float tube out, but if there is anyone brave enough to put up with me in their boat, i would be much obliged [especially when i catch that 500$ fish :D]
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Hey Chris, I'm attending this derby for the first time with some friends and we are all fishing out of small boats (kayaks and pontoons). Do we need to check in or anything before we launch and start fishing or just show up at the weigh in with our catch after 11am? I've fished a few other derbys and some of them have check ins beforehand and some don't. I'll be out there in my red kayak if anyone wants to stop by and say hello and toss a few tagged pikeminnows my way! ;)
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Hey Chris, I'm attending this derby for the first time with some friends and we are all fishing out of small boats (kayaks and pontoons). Do we need to check in or anything before we launch and start fishing or just show up at the weigh in with our catch after 11am? I've fished a few other derbys and some of them have check ins beforehand and some don't. I'll be out there in my red kayak if anyone wants to stop by and say hello and toss a few tagged pikeminnows my way! ;)
Fishing starts at daylight and no need to check in before you start fishing. Make sure you buy your tickets before Saturday to qualify for the early bird draws.
Good fishing.
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Close to 900 anglers, young and old braved a wet and soggy day at Cultus Lake today to land around 700 Northern Pike Minnows. No special FVSS tagged fish were caught but one pike minnow tagged by FOC was landed. Two members of this forum caught the most fish, one with 146 and the other with 96. The 196 fish gave our well known forum member $392 in cash plus some excellent prizes. The largest pike minnow landed by an adult was 1.66 kg. The junior winners was a boy, with a 0.90 kg pike minnow.
More details and pictures to follow as Rod took a number of pictures.
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I would like to thank the organizers and volunteers for such a great event. It was the first time I participated and my son outfished
me again by taking home the prize for largest pike minnow Jr boys and the Memorial trophy.
We are already looking forward to next years event.
Thanks again,
Gator
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Photos from today's derby can now be seen at:
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2533
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A brief wrap for the derby that I have written for different media outlets.
900 avid anglers braved a very soggy and wet Saturday at Cultus Lake
angling for Northern Pike Minnow at the Greg Clark Memorial Family
Fishing Derby. The derby is an annual event held on the Father Day
weekend and is organized by the Fraser Valley Salmon Society. The derby
started at daylight and by the end of the derby at 2 PM 762 pike minnows
had been brought to the weigh scales. No specially Fraser Valley Salmon
Society tagged pike minnows were caught that would have given the lucky
angler $500, however many great prizes were awarded including 200 draw
prizes to those that may have not even caught a fish.
Liam Rihela was the big winner as he took home the Greg Clark Memorial
trophy with his 0.90 kg fish. Liam topped the Junior boys division with
this fish and took home a Mountain bike and riding gear.
Aiden Dewit finished a close second with a 0.88 kg pike minnow with
Jack Pinker taking third spot with an 0.65 entry. Cole Duffy caught the
most pike minnows by a junior boy as he landed 20.
In the junior girls division a 0.47 kg pike minnow also gave Tegan Jones
first place winning a mountain bike and riding gear. Emma Kelly took
second with her 0.32kg fish with Brooke Snow placing third with a 0.06kg
pike minnow. Brooke Curtis caught the most fish, 9 among the junior
girls that took part in the derby.
Over in the adult part of the derby Terry Summer caught the biggest pike
minnow of the derby with a 1.66 kg entry. Summer was awarded a Fish Cat
U Boat, rod/reel combo along with a tackle box and tackle. Justin Robert
was second with a 1.28 kg fish and Dale Billsten took third place with a
1.02 kg pike minnow. Daniel Krenz caught a whopping 146 pike minnows
taking the adult section in landing the most pike minnows. This gave Krenz
a Fish Cat U Boat, rod/reel combo along with a tackle box and tackle.
Peter Buck also had a good day on the water catching 96 fish giving him
second spot.
Mike Guthrie won the Bill Otway Memorial Prize draw in memory of Otway
who passed away this past year. Otway was an advocate for fishers and
hunters throughout British Columbia and Canada.
Owen Skonberg member of the Cultus Lake Park's Board presented Frank Kwak,
president of the Fraser Valley Salmon Society with a commemorative picture thanking
the society for their community work of putting on the derby for the last number of years.
Much thanks goes to all the volunteers and sponsors that made the derby once again possible.
Also thanks goes to Dean Werk from Great River Fishing Adventures that rounded up 10 guide
boats that took 172 children and adults out for free fishing trips during the length of the event.
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I would like to thank the organizers and volunteers for such a great event. It was the first time I participated and my son outfished
me again by taking home the prize for largest pike minnow Jr boys and the Memorial trophy.
We are already looking forward to next years event.
Thanks again,
Gator
Well done I will send you a photo of the presentation.
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Well done Everyday :D You know Buck is gonna be gunning for you next year ;)
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Some of my pictures of the derby can be seen here including the main junior wiinner.
http://www.thevalleyvoice.ca/Voice%20Stories/June%202011/Greg%20Clark%20Fishing%20Derby%20-%20Reel%20Experts%20-%20June%2019%202011.htm
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Well done Everyday :D You know Buck is gonna be gunning for you next year ;)
I think it was him beside us at the nursery.
Was insane action for a bit. At one point I was making counts to 10 and having fish on before I hit 5. Was a good day... all the money went into a fishing trip jar ;D
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146 fish!??!
ONE HUNDRED FORTY SIX FISH!?!?!?
Impressive :o ;D
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146 fish!??!
ONE HUNDRED FORTY SIX FISH!?!?!?
Impressive :o ;D
lol calm down there NPM... i miss days of getting that many on super light fly rods on cultus before the cull....they used to be all good sized too
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Yea Kingpin it woulda been possible.
We were using indicators with chironomids on spin caster rods (tipped with worms but chironies were working by themselves)
They were mostly 3-4 inches long though. I got a few that were 6-8 inches...
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Man those "Worm Suckin Chronies" were just slaying them....lol. Too bad it took us half the day to figure out that was the ticket, I can only see twice as many in the boat next year. ;)
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Man those "Worm Suckin Chronies" were just slaying them....lol. Too bad it took us half the day to figure out that was the ticket, I can only see twice as many in the boat next year. ;)
You will break the bank then. ::)
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Tip your chronies with a chunk of boiled hot dog wiener
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You will break the bank then. ::)
Only 700 fish caught, we didn't break the bank this year ;D
Besides, we made it so 220+ babies would never get to reproduce, better then all those big spawners :P ;D
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Wow! this is fast becoming technical fishing! Love it.
Can see the future ...TV shows, big name fishers (hope April is one ;) all showing up at the derby, trying to beat EveryDay's record. Picture Gierach casting cane off a main beach wharf ;D
Seriously though, this is becoming a major fishing event, at least to BC standards - maybe some bigger name sponsers should be looking at that.
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It'll be broken next year. Hopefully by one of my buddies.
Can almost guarantee we will be weighing in more little 3-4 inchers next year than this year, had a late start at 7:30.
Imagine what we could have done if we were out since 4 and had gotten our methods down from the start of the day ;D
Already looking forward to it :P
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Only 700 fish caught, we didn't break the bank this year ;D
Besides, we made it so 220+ babies would never get to reproduce, better then all those big spawners :P ;D
762 fish my boy, read the story. ;D ;D ;D
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Chris
The emphases has shifted from catching the larger pike minnow to catching the smaller juveniles due to the $2.00 per fish rule and the prize for the most fish caught. Not one tagged fish was caught,
due in most part to the areas being fished. The whole point of the derby was to try and eliminate as many of the larger fish as possible. Maybe you should think about dropping the most fish category,
the $2.00/ fish ( which would save $) and go to the most weight caught. This would encourage people to fish for the larger fish. I understand next year you will not be receiving the same $ from some of the sponsors. How about $ 2.00/fish for kids only and most weight by adult category.
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Chris
The emphases has shifted from catching the larger pike minnow to catching the smaller juveniles due to the $2.00 per fish rule and the prize for the most fish caught. Not one tagged fish was caught,
due in most part to the areas being fished. The whole point of the derby was to try and eliminate as many of the larger fish as possible. Maybe you should think about dropping the most fish category,
the $2.00/ fish ( which would save $) and go to the most weight caught. This would encourage people to fish for the larger fish. I understand next year you will not be receiving the same $ from some of the sponsors. How about $ 2.00/fish for kids only and most weight by adult category.
Thanks for the input, I had printed out your concerns and will take them to the FVSS meeting next week. Anyone else with ideas please make note of them on this thread.
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The whole point of the derby was to try and eliminate as many of the larger fish as possible.
Hey Peter I am curious about something..
Why is the point to eliminate the larger ones that have spawned at least once if not more, rather than eliminate the smaller ones before they have a chance to spawn?
Those huge ones have spawned multiple times, and the larger the fish the more eggs they carry.
Maybe drop the $2 a fish, but not the most fish category as I still think it's better to eliminate the smaller guys than the big ones.
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Drop the most fish category? Excuse me but this whole derby is to help eliminate these invasive species which are hurting our weak cultus sockeye run.
From what I saw in the derby, those who did get big fish, got few. Those who got average sized fish and smaller did better with numbers. Maybe the bigger ones are smarter, harder to get at, or just less of them? So if you eliminate the most fish category, everyone will focus on the larger fish, which in return will yeild alot less dead pikeminnow. Which if I am correct means there will be more pikeminnow out there ready to feed on juvenile sockeye.
Why not do a combined weight category instead? That way people bringing in lunker can compete with people racking up numbers.
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Drop the most fish category? Excuse me but this whole derby is to help eliminate these invasive species which are hurting our weak cultus sockeye run.
1. Northern pikeminnow is not an invasive species, it is native to Cultus Lake, just like many other watersheds in British Columbia.
2. The purpose of the derby is not to eliminate the population of northern pikeminnow completely, but to control the population so Cultus Lake sockeye salmon population can rebound.
3. The state of Cultus Lake sockeye salmon population is the result of human related activities, ie. commercial harvest. Since it's harder to eliminate the growing population of human in the Lower Mainland, we prefer to lay blame on a species that has direct conflict with us when it comes to consuming salmon.
Personally, I'd like to see a fact sheet containing information such as the above plus fish IDs handed out to derby participants.
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Excuse me but this whole derby is to help eliminate these invasive species which are hurting our weak Cultus sockeye run.
Some good points Big Fisher but NPM are not an invasive species, at least not in Cultus. Predators on sockeye yes, but so are the coho, cutthroat and char. My feeling on this issue is unless the eradication program continues indefinitely (which it won't due to funding issues), these smaller juvenile NPM will eventually fill the niche left by the removal of the larger, older fish, meaning we will be back to square one.
To keep this sockeye population viable, through the NPM population control and a hatchery program, is costing about $250k annually. I cannot see that kind of money being available much longer.
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ED
Adult pike minnow are the ones that are consuming large numbers of sockeye smolts, not the 4-5 inch juveniles that we were targeting on derby day. As you mentioned the larger adults have thousands of eggs and eliminating them from the spawning cycle in effect eliminates future juveniles from the system. One reason few larger adults were caught was the fact that the majority of anglers were fishing in water that was only 7-8 feet deep. Targeting juvenile fish. The larger adults are for the most part in the deeper water and have become more difficult to catch due to the removal effort the last few years. It was interesting that not one tagged fish was caught even though 100 were tagged over a two month period. I'm sure there can be some compromise on the rules , but as Chris has said, you will break the bank. If everyone figures out how to catch all the juveniles there wont be enough money to cover the cost. There was mention that some of the sponsors would not be able to provide
as much funding next year due to budget cuts.
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I see what you mean Buck.
I worked on the pikeminnow boat last year.
As you said the bigger ones tend to stay in water 15-20 feet deep unless spawning where they come right up against shore.
I think another reason not many larger ones were caught is that they seem to only be active in warm sunny conditions.
Last year we couldn't even net fish at the beginning of the year because it was cold and they were down deep.
Also the pikeminnow (we found anyways) hardly moved at all. The same school would be in the same spots year after year.
The big ones have their areas (which I might have to target next year), and the little ones have their areas.
I can almost guarantee that those tagged fish were most likely within a 500 m radius of where they were tagged. Someone finds out where they are into a lot of money.
As said before. I would be fine with taking away the $2 a fish. I still however say leave the most fish category.
I think it would be a good thing with even 5 people trying to win that category and targeting juveniles taking out 100+ fish each.
As Dave said, the smaller ones will just fill the void of the bigger ones. We already noticed last year fish becoming mature at a SMALLER size.
The more you take out the bigger ones and leave the smaller ones, the more nature corrects itself and fills the gap.
I also think that it would be better to pay out for lots of smaller fish rather than pay a potential of $500 bucks for one tagged fish.
Even if we get 250 fish, we are only costing the same amount as 1 tagged fish and took out 249 more than the guy that got the (possibly) tagged one.
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ED
What if 20 anglers were to catch 100 fish each? That would amount to a lot of $$$ the Salmon Society would have to pay out . Where do you think all the money is going to come from? The potential
to catch a lot more fish ( juveniles ) with all the exposure the derby has created is a given. You and I both know a number of anglers who have expressed interest in next years derby. I'm not the one who will be making the decision on next years derby and it may stay the same. Either way I will be out doing my part to help slaughter the little buggers.
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I agree.
If every angler was hitting 100 little guys they would go broke for sure.
However there were boats around us all day and many were not catching any while we were hauling them in constantly.
As said before, maybe make the tagged ones worth less or not $500 a piece. You could also take away the $100 draws. That's an extra $1000 towards fish caught.
I will def be there right along with you slaying the little buggers even if they are no longer $2 a fish.
More outta the lake the better.
Looking forward to next years derby already!
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I would pay 10 bucks to fish in the derby no problem. Maybe if it's popular enough the entry fee can go to ease the finances. I didn't catch anything but I did get someone else to go to the derby. :) He's already talking about bringing his family next year.
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I would pay 10 bucks to fish in the derby no problem. Maybe if it's popular enough the entry fee can go to ease the finances. I didn't catch anything but I did get someone else to go to the derby. :) He's already talking about bringing his family next year.
even out there in the rain in a float tube, i would totally pay 10 next year, and i didnt catch a damn thing besides a bucket full of sucker fish. BIG UPS to ben trainer, thanks for takin us out on the boat.
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Check out te Fraser Valley Salmon Society's Facebook page for some more photo's
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=145467188860704&set=a.145467132194043.36804.111769675563789&type=1