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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: DragonSpeed on August 30, 2010, 01:02:06 PM

Title: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: DragonSpeed on August 30, 2010, 01:02:06 PM
Boy... some of you thought people posing HERE with their sox were bad "Hero" shots...

I was googling around and this one came up:

http://legendlodge.com/images/pics/sockeye1.jpg

(http://legendlodge.com/images/pics/sockeye1.jpg)

Yeesh.  :o
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: alwaysfishn on August 30, 2010, 01:20:01 PM
Boy... some of you thought people posing HERE with their sox were bad "Hero" shots...

I was googling around and this one came up:

http://legendlodge.com/images/pics/sockeye1.jpg


(http://legendlodge.com/images/pics/sockeye1.jpg)

Yeesh.  :o

Dang flosser!  There is no way that sockeye would have bitten his fly!  ;D  :D
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: DragonSpeed on August 30, 2010, 01:30:19 PM
Dang flosser!  There is no way that sockeye would have bitten his fly!  ;D  :D
I'm surprised he can pick it up without it crumbling in his hands!  ::)
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: HOOK on August 30, 2010, 01:52:19 PM
Dragonspeed - was this picture taken from an American guiding site ??

i ask this because if you look at alot of the pictures on american sites you will find its more about the size of the fish than its cleanlyness like here in BC. I was looking at a few sites a couple years back and couldnt believe the boot springs they had pics of and boasting about how big they were. So i looked further into it and its done with every specie from pinks through to steelies.


just watch the Americans when it comes to keeping fish here in our BC streams/rivers. They want the biggest they are allowed to have no matter the darkness (usually) unless its dropping its baby juices/eggs everywhere  :-\

Example - i helped an American gentleman (great guy) land a rather large spring on the Vedder last year, he was thinking to keep it when i explained he should wait for a "cleaner" one to keep because the meat will be of better quality. He listened and agreed with me and within 20mins had a nice chrome fish that was slightly smaller but would be of better table fair.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: DragonSpeed on August 30, 2010, 02:07:47 PM
I just went and looked at the base URL.. yes - it's an Alaskan lodge.  http://legendlodge.com

Here's another pic from their site:

(http://legendlodge.com/images/pics/DSC00926.jpg)

This one had the caption "Sliver Salmon"

Not so silver  :-X
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: HOOK on August 30, 2010, 02:15:53 PM
are you not aware of the names that Americans have for some salmon species


if i remember correctly they only call Coho and Springs other things

coho = Silvers

springs/chinook = Kings


just like i stated, they like taking pics of boot fish however to them these arent "boots" To each their own right
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: DragonSpeed on August 30, 2010, 02:27:50 PM
are you not aware of the names that Americans have for some salmon species

if i remember correctly they only call Coho and Springs other things

coho = Silvers

springs/chinook = Kings
Oh yes.  I just couldn't help but point out the irony in the name given the poor fish's state.  :)

I guess it doesn't matter to the fish when it gets caught and killed... it's still dead.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: bluenoser on August 30, 2010, 03:08:56 PM
Not sure if Sockeye bite anything but a Chum Zombie's still hit a Purple jig when they are too gross to touch.

The Stave in late October is kind of like Pet Semetary for fish.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: Fish Slayer on August 30, 2010, 05:46:11 PM
Yankee talk:
spring = king
coho = silver
sockeye = red
chum = dog
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: CALI 2 B.C. on August 31, 2010, 12:48:16 AM
Being a "Yank" Im feeling a lil offended.I definately dont have the same standards as what you are posting.Ive caught my share of tyee "King" Springs on the sacramento river.Not boots either ever actually.But im assuming the "characters" pictured @ this alaskin? lodge probably hail from salmonless midwest america and havent a clue what a clean salmonoid represents.Theres ignorant and uneducated people everywhere not just america im sure 5 min. on google i could pull up some canadian boots being glorified. ;D
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: HOOK on August 31, 2010, 12:57:03 AM
ok Cali, I challenge you to find 3, YES 3 pics of boot fish glorified on Western Canadian guiding websites  ;)

I predict you probably wont find any especially 3.

Oh and darkened up steelhead do NOT count because a kelted steely will mend and head back to the ocean and then return to do it all again  ;)

and dont be offended about this subject because your american. Did we say "all" americans are like this, pretty sure none of us have ................. yet  ;) LOL
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: BNF861 on August 31, 2010, 06:54:06 AM
ok Cali, I challenge you to find 3, YES 3 pics of boot fish glorified on Western Canadian guiding websites  ;)

Not that you were challenging me but the first link i clicked on while googling, I found a fraser valley guides website that showed three fanged up, army tank green bared up chum that the anglers were quite proud of  ;)

I get your point, it is not as common but to someone not from a salmon bearing area, they would be proud to catch any salmon. I have even had no fishing friends respond when I told them I caught a coho, "oh yeah, too bad you didn't catch a salmon" They don't even realize there are different sub species.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: kingpin on August 31, 2010, 07:17:39 AM
ok Cali, I challenge you to find 3, YES 3 pics of boot fish glorified on Western Canadian guiding websites  ;)

I predict you probably wont find any especially 3.

Oh and darkened up steelhead do NOT count because a kelted steely will mend and head back to the ocean and then return to do it all again  ;)

and dont be offended about this subject because your american. Did we say "all" americans are like this, pretty sure none of us have ................. yet  ;) LOL

LOL boot steelhead do count. its pathetic when guys get hero shots with them.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: DragonSpeed on August 31, 2010, 08:32:14 AM
I have even had no fishing friends respond when I told them I caught a coho, "oh yeah, too bad you didn't catch a salmon" They don't even realize there are different sub species.
Yup!  Friends from non Pacific Salmon areas asked me if I had some strange laundry fetish when I kept talking about "socks"  ::)  No idea.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: Spiznack on August 31, 2010, 09:46:28 AM
Almost every local guide site has pics of ugly Chums.  In the states the ugly fish don't get kept either.  Just something to catch.  I also see lots and lots of pictures out of the Squamish area of people with their red cohos.  Honestly this is common for all salmon fisherman.  First of all the unique colors of a spawning fish are worth a photo if you are not from the area.  Not everyone is blessed with the great salmon runs that we have and to those in other parts of the US or Canada catching these fish can be a great experience. 

Here are your three pics from a well known local guide service STS:
(i don't know how to post pics so here are the links to the website....)

http://www.guidebc.com/photos/photosalmon.asp (http://www.guidebc.com/photos/photosalmon.asp)

Check the bottom 3 fish out on page 1!  I would say those are boot fish.  You gonna eat those? 

This is not an American vs. Canadian fisherman thing.  We all do it.  Just go to the Stave in October and look at all the guide boats out there catching Chum boots!
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: HOOK on August 31, 2010, 10:13:41 AM
Okay give it up on the chum boots. We all know they turn almost instantly when they hit fresh water(not all but alot) so how about try putting up pics of boot Coho and Chinook. What i mean by boots are not just slightly coloured but the ones that have probably been pulled off their reds like in the first pics put up.

And no Kingpin steelhead don't count when I say they don't. I know tons of people that think the colours of a melted steely are better looking then when it's bullet chrome however they would never kill one in that state.

And by 3 I meant 3 seperate guiding outfits not 3 pics from one. I knew you guys would go after the chum first cause they're the easy choice obviously
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: BCfisherman97 on August 31, 2010, 12:32:16 PM
I know its a chum but how didn't it fall apart in his hands-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sherrett/3034212080/
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: one more cast on August 31, 2010, 12:42:18 PM
I know its a chum but how didn't it fall apart in his hands-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sherrett/3034212080/

Oh man, talk about uneducated...and he looks so proud >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: dennyman on August 31, 2010, 12:46:10 PM
OMG, and I imagine it put up one heck of a fight.  ::)
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: CALI 2 B.C. on August 31, 2010, 01:23:48 PM
LOL Its all good humor to me. ;D that chum almost made me vomit however LOL
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: bcguy on August 31, 2010, 02:42:09 PM
Chum...do people fish for those things... ::)
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: CALI 2 B.C. on August 31, 2010, 05:16:51 PM
They fight like hell.I have only kept 1 ever.I'm actually looking foreward to them. ;D
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: vancook on August 31, 2010, 05:25:34 PM
I know its a chum but how didn't it fall apart in his hands-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sherrett/3034212080/
so nasty...big grin on this face about it too. tsk tsk
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: clarki on August 31, 2010, 05:30:49 PM
ok Cali, I challenge you to find 3, YES 3 pics of boot fish glorified on Western Canadian guiding websites  ;)
I predict you probably wont find any especially 3.

A ridiculous, even mean-spirited, challenge.

With 4 US states that border on the Pacific Ocean vs one Canadian province (never mind that one of those states has a population the size of the entire country of Canada) you are going to have alot more guiding outfits, therefore a alot more pictures to bolster your ridiulous case.

Further, many guiding clients just want to catch salmon, are pleased as punch when they do, and the guide is happy to oblige them with a picture. Websites full of happy clients with fish mean more future clients. (Smart guides however will keep the boot shots to a minimum and include some bullets too)
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: kingpin on August 31, 2010, 06:42:45 PM
And no Kingpin steelhead don't count when I say they don't. I know tons of people that think the colours of a melted steely are better looking then when it's bullet chrome however they would never kill one in that state.

HAHA ya right a kelt steelhead is better looking than a ocean fresh sealiced fish? they should be left alone to spawn not get pics taken with. The guys that think that way are the ones that can't get them until they are late season stacked up like that.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: BigFisher on August 31, 2010, 07:13:54 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/BigFisher/IMG_1165.jpg) January Fishing was slow, but didnt get skunked
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: HOOK on August 31, 2010, 07:50:30 PM
You guys do realize that I'm just stirring the pot right ??

KP - and no the people like the colours of the fish, they do not like seeing them pulled from their reds Thank You. I have only caught 2 kelts so far and I like the colouring on them myself, not more than chromies but close to even.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: kingpin on August 31, 2010, 08:07:19 PM
You guys do realize that I'm just stirring the pot right ??

KP - and no the people like the colours of the fish, they do not like seeing them pulled from their reds Thank You. I have only caught 2 kelts so far and I like the colouring on them myself, not more than chromies but close to even.

you suck at stirring the pot. take lessons. for example. the fact that you have caught only 2 kelts ever is no surprise based on the single digit numbers you put up.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: Fish Slayer on August 31, 2010, 08:46:33 PM
you suck at stirring the pot. take lessons. for example. the fact that you have caught only 2 kelts ever is no surprise based on the single digit numbers you put up.

ouch lol
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: bigguy on August 31, 2010, 11:23:24 PM
I think the first pic with the red sock is kind of cool.  Sounds like we are getting a wee bit arrogant. Makes a good pic, don't think the guy took it home for dinner.  I might take a picture of the fish as well.  Lets not be snobs... 
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: iRobertO on August 31, 2010, 11:47:32 PM
I agree that it looks cool. I was amazed the first time I saw a sockeye in this state. I thought them 'turning red' just meant like a shade. Pretty neat.

Rob
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: bigguy on August 31, 2010, 11:58:15 PM
Rob, part of the problem with this site, lot of good information, but a few people who post who feel that their way is the only way and if you do not agree with them then you are not a real fisherman....... lol. A good site overall though.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 01, 2010, 12:02:22 AM
What's wrong with a guy posing with a red sockeye or a coloured chum ?  It's all in the eyes of the beholder. Seems some people like to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: bigguy on September 01, 2010, 12:09:18 AM
Totally agree, and when a moderator places the post, makes one wonder... lol, oh well.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: dennyman on September 01, 2010, 12:19:49 AM
The problem I have with the sockeye shot of the humped up red male is that it was probably picked off while getting ready to spawn. When salmon get to that stage of the life cycle leave them alone so that they can reproduce, instead of harassing them.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: one more cast on September 01, 2010, 12:25:49 AM
The problem I have with the sockeye shot of the humped up red male is that it was probably picked off while getting ready to spawn. When salmon get to that stage of the life cycle leave them alone so that they can reproduce, instead of harassing them.

Agreed and so obvious. Same as any spawner. I've hooked chum in that stage and I try to keep them in the water, use pliers to unhook them as quick as I can.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: bigguy on September 01, 2010, 12:29:16 AM
In a perfect world guys, you are right. The guy in the pic doesn't really look like a newbie though.  Still a cool pic.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: iRobertO on September 01, 2010, 12:30:28 AM
Good point on the spawning. Thanks for the education there.

Agreed and so obvious. Same as any spawner. I've hooked chum in that stage and I try to keep them in the water, use pliers to unhook them as quick as I can.

And not so obvious, I hadn't even considered that.

Rob
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: iRobertO on September 01, 2010, 12:32:53 AM
And I back up my comment about it being neat. I bet my daughter would like to see a glimpse of what nature produces like that.

Rob
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2010, 12:33:06 AM
Want to see cool pictures of spawning sockeyes?

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3434/3756387233_e36ca86e98_o.jpg)

In a perfect world guys, you are right. The guy in the pic doesn't really look like a newbie though.  Still a cool pic.

::)
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: bigguy on September 01, 2010, 12:36:56 AM
Yes that is a much nicer picture Rod! lol.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: HOOK on September 01, 2010, 12:49:01 AM
KP - you have no idea what kind of numbers i put. I have been 2 years with the spey rod so its still all learning more than catching it seems. I have hooked them but they get away on me  >:( If i take the gear rod out then i catch no problem. Took the rod out 1 day last year and went home with dinner and it was also the ONLY time i have used roe for steelies.
Title: Re: Sockeye Hero shots
Post by: Rodney on September 01, 2010, 12:56:51 AM
I think you need to take some pot stirring lessons from KP lol...

ok, fun's over.