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Title: A feast of clams
Post by: clarki on April 20, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
On my walkabouts for cutthroat, I always enjoy looking for the sign, tracks and scat of area residents.

Came across this yesterday. There were a couple of similar deposits along this little blackwater pond.  I'm not an expert tracker, but tracks in the mud seemed to indicate river otters.   

(https://i.imgur.com/Ycjikc4.jpg)

Pretty cool :)
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: Rodney on April 20, 2020, 10:52:45 AM
What kind of clams are these? We were actually wondering about this yesterday when finding some while walking down a slough.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: cutthroat22 on April 20, 2020, 11:10:21 AM
Freshwater Mussel?

https://www.oregonconservationstrategy.org/strategy-species/western-ridged-mussel/

Overview

    Species Common Name
    Western Ridged Mussel
    Species Scientific Name
    Gonidea angulata

*Edit - If someone wants to do a walkabout to find me...so be it.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: clarki on April 20, 2020, 11:23:53 AM
Yes, more accurately freshwater mussels. I refer to them as clams, but they are properly mussels.

https://pnwmussels.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/pnw_mussel_guide_2nd_edition.pdf

There are many species of the freshwater mussels in the genus Anodonta. My best guess is that it is one of the species commonly referred to as a "floater"     
 
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: clarki on April 20, 2020, 11:26:18 AM
Never read much about freshwater mussels until today. Interesting. The fertilized embryos (called "glochidia") are released into the water and need to attach to a host fish as a parasite. Later (days to months) , they release from the host fish and settle to the bottom to mature. Even the little stickleback can be host fish.   

Pretty interesting the whole relationship between mussels, fish, water quality and higher order mammal predators.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: RalphH on April 20, 2020, 11:47:01 AM
I've watched otters feasting on freshwater clams many times. I have never seen one eat a fish though once I found a partially consumed steelhead kelt that was likely taken by an otter. They also eat crayfish and often their scat is filled with shells fragments.

In close to 60 years of fishing the Fraser Valley I have seen river otters go from pretty much non present to being frequently seen. I like to come across them. A couple of years ago I saw a pair of pups which the mum must of left under a large cedar growing out of a cut-bank. They were smaller than house cats and would pop their heads up and whistle at me. Or maybe they were calling for mom to come and keep them safe.

I read recently a female otter will often be accompanied by a clutch pups from different year cohorts. They have a complicated family life. Big males can almost be the size of seals.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: Fish Assassin on April 20, 2020, 12:27:03 PM
Otters most definitely eat fish. I had an otter swam up and stole my trout while attempting to land it.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: iblly on April 20, 2020, 01:21:04 PM
Otters are thriving in the lower Fraser. I see them all the time while I’m working. Ferrets and or minks as well. Not sure which one they are ??
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: Rodney on April 20, 2020, 01:33:31 PM
Otters most definitely eat fish. I had an otter swam up and stole my trout while attempting to land it.

That's impossible! ;D ;D ;D

While walking the slough this past week, we saw all kinds of animal prints from heron to bear, way more alive than just a ditch.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: RalphH on April 20, 2020, 01:41:40 PM
Otters most definitely eat fish. I had an otter swam up and stole my trout while attempting to land it.

Of course! In some areas they are infamous for eating trout and salmon. Perhaps here they find it easier eating crayfish and mussels.

I commonly see them out in the Salish Sea as well.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: cutthroat22 on April 20, 2020, 02:30:41 PM
These otters need to stop being so shellfish.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: clarki on April 20, 2020, 02:33:12 PM
These otters need to stop being so shellfish.
You otter stop makin such bad puns
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: Fish Assassin on April 20, 2020, 02:35:44 PM
Of course! In some areas they are infamous for eating trout and salmon. Perhaps here they find it easier eating crayfish and mussels.

I commonly see them out in the Salish Sea as well.

Don't forget they like Koi from the Sun Yet Sun gardens.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: clarki on April 20, 2020, 02:39:35 PM
While walking the slough this past week, we saw all kinds of animal prints from heron to bear, way more alive than just a ditch.

Agreed! There is so much to see if you are observant to your surroundings, and curious. A small dose of humility and awe can be helpful too :)
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: cutthroat22 on April 20, 2020, 02:42:06 PM
You otter stop makin such bad puns

You otter be ashamed of yourself.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: clarki on April 20, 2020, 03:30:05 PM
What's slough problem, cutthroat22? Your musseling in on this thread with your bad puns minks me want to clam up and not post anymore.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: cutthroat22 on April 20, 2020, 04:01:04 PM
You win!  8)
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: clarki on April 20, 2020, 04:25:37 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/6el1A2t.gif)
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: 96XJ on April 22, 2020, 03:33:26 PM
There's apparently too many otters , we should start culling them  ::)
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: RalphH on April 22, 2020, 03:55:36 PM
Samuel Johnson said puns are the lowest forms of humor so maybe that's what should be culled. ;D
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: wildmanyeah on April 22, 2020, 04:33:52 PM
Samuel Johnson said puns are the lowest forms of humor so maybe that's what should be culled. ;D

Haha only two thirds of the pun’s stink
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: clarki on April 22, 2020, 09:14:01 PM
Haha only two thirds of the pun’s stink
That reasoning makes no scents.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: firstlight on April 27, 2020, 08:51:37 PM
Those freshwater Mussels are all thruought the lower Fraser and Pitt systems and everything connected to them.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: clarki on April 28, 2020, 10:59:27 PM
Those freshwater Mussels are all thruought the lower Fraser and Pitt systems and everything connected to them.

Yeah, but you won't find them above the Stave River. They are Mission from that stretch.

However, you might find them if you look along the shore, but I wouldn't bank on it.
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: pwn50m3 f15h3r on April 29, 2020, 12:42:47 AM
Yeah, but you won't find them above the Stave River. They are Mission from that stretch.

However, you might find them if you look along the shore, but I wouldn't bank on it.
Maybe this post was just a joke but I’ve seen them in Maria slough which is well above the harrison
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: hammer on April 29, 2020, 06:11:54 PM
They are above the Stave, I have seen them in the Harrison. They must be taking over....or we are in the “clam before the storm”
Title: Re: A feast of clams
Post by: clarki on April 29, 2020, 07:52:51 PM
Maybe this post was just a joke but I’ve seen them in Maria slough which is well above the harrison
Yes, it was a tongue-in-cheek post. It was the only way I could think to work in 2 puns, instead of 1

They must be taking over....or we are in the “clam before the storm”
That's the spirit!