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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: standalone on August 05, 2015, 11:31:48 AM

Title: what fish is it?
Post by: standalone on August 05, 2015, 11:31:48 AM
The special one in photo. somebody say it's coho,others say sockeye, not sure if they are joking.

fish is not mine.copy from another forum.

(http://vanspace.com/data/attachment/forum/201508/05/083554dk6zz6bfyd717dd6.jpg)
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: sbc hris on August 05, 2015, 11:45:38 AM
The one in there looks a little coho-ish, but it's hard to tell from that photo. The rest are pinks.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: dobrolub on August 05, 2015, 11:49:42 AM
second top might be coho
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Spawn Sack on August 05, 2015, 11:57:45 AM
Know your fish people!! >:(

Look at the small scales and large spots on the tail.

Assuming we are talking about the one with it's mouth wide open (1 up from bottom).

That is a PINK salmon.

Order from top is pink, probably coho (would have to see mouth/gums), pink, pink.

It amazes me the amount of "smart" people who fish, who memorise all sorts of random crap, but can not take an hour or so to do some fish identification research and memorise the identity of 4 or 5 salmon they are likely to catch.

Should be such a test to get your salmon tag.

Couldn't tell you how many times I've been fishing on the river and had someone with a fish flapping on the shore flag me down to help them tell what kind of fish it is. "Coho?!" No, that is a chum. "Spring on!!" No you cast across my line and hooked into my gear.

Really think getting a fishing license should be more like getting your CORE to hunt. I've never heard of a hunter shooting a duck thinking it was a grouse. Short of being a kid and maybe not expecting to catch anything on your walmart spinning set up, if you are an adult and have no idea what species this chrome slimey salmon thing is on the end of your hook you should stay off the water until you get your learn on.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Fish Assassin on August 05, 2015, 12:07:21 PM
Pink

Coho

Pink

Pink
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: typhoon on August 05, 2015, 12:11:59 PM
Know your fish people!! >:(


Nice indignation. Everyone else is assuming we are talking about the second from top.
My guess would be Coho, but there isn't enough information for a certain identification.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Spawn Sack on August 05, 2015, 12:19:26 PM
Haha yes you are rigth it would be that one. A case of "one of these things is not like the other."

Just cheeses me off the % of people I bump into in the sumemr/fall who can not tell what type of salmon they have hooked. Just IT'S A SALMON! Club it now and ask questions later.

Aaaaannnnddd, this is why I prefer steelheading. Weeds out the window lickers.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Sandman on August 05, 2015, 12:36:45 PM
Nice indignation. Everyone else is assuming we are talking about the second from top.

Truly, and none have their mouth wide open. The second from the top has larger scales (as opposed to the small scales of a pink), but the tail is too dark to see if there are spots and it is hard to tell if those are spots on the back or not, although the snout appears too blunt for a coho.  You really need 3 or at least two features to confidently ID a fish, so without a look at the gums and a better view of the spots (or lack of them), I can see how arguments for either coho or sockeye could be made.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: MetalAndFeathers on August 05, 2015, 12:57:48 PM
Looks like a coho. If you look closely at the bottom right corner of the fishes tails 3 have large oval spots and the second top one does not. Also larger scales and somewhat darker back.( not a way to ID coho but just to show the difference.)
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Drewhill on August 05, 2015, 01:52:58 PM
From top to bottom:
Sturgeon
Rock Cod
Flounder
Bullhead

Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: canso on August 05, 2015, 02:13:35 PM
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Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: dobrolub on August 05, 2015, 02:20:14 PM
Know your fish people!! >:

Well, that sounds like number 11 and should read "Know thy fish"
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Tenz85 on August 05, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
My first reaction is coho. I'm not certain of the regs by sushine coast but I'm guessing the adipose should be healed over.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Tenz85 on August 05, 2015, 03:48:53 PM
Or the island for that matter.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Spawn Sack on August 05, 2015, 04:39:49 PM
Truly, and none have their mouth wide open. The second from the top has larger scales (as opposed to the small scales of a pink), but the tail is too dark to see if there are spots and it is hard to tell if those are spots on the back or not, although the snout appears too blunt for a coho.  You really need 3 or at least two features to confidently ID a fish, so without a look at the gums and a better view of the spots (or lack of them), I can see how arguments for either coho or sockeye could be made.

Apologies, first, the fish one up from the bottom for some reason appeared to have it's mouth open. Clearly it does not. I pretty much missed the whole point of the original post :o Was having a crappy mroning and probably should have stayed away from commenting on this forum.

That being said people who fish for salmon yet have no clue how to identify a jack spring from a coho, or whatever, really drive me up the wall. Still think there should be a test to get a fishing license!
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Sandman on August 05, 2015, 07:37:04 PM
😏
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: bunnta on August 05, 2015, 07:52:28 PM
2nd is a coho, look at the tail difference between the pinks and that one. pink got big spots...where as coho don't have much spots and some dont even have any or mostly near the top of the tail
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: typhoon on August 05, 2015, 08:16:22 PM
I chose Coho because of the eye. Socks have big eyes and always have a "stunned" look. Coho look like predators.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: blaydRnr on August 06, 2015, 12:34:00 AM
more likely than not...coho, from the formation of the scales...pronounced eye socket giving it a high cheek bone appearance and silver streak like "painting" on the caudal.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: 243Pete on August 06, 2015, 06:56:45 AM
Possibly a coho or a sockeye, it's very hard to tell with the image as it is a tad dark.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Tenz85 on August 06, 2015, 09:03:40 AM
Crappy part about this thread is there is no prize for the lucky winner.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: tworivers on August 06, 2015, 09:16:48 AM
Looks like pound and a half Kokanee to me. 8)
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Nicolas The Fisherman on August 06, 2015, 09:52:21 AM
The 2nd fish is definitely a coho and the rest are pinks. The overall look of the fish is a dead ringer for me.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Kever on August 06, 2015, 10:01:59 AM
Can someone post up a good link to help identify salmon? Seems pertinent now that Coho and Chinook are mixed in with the pinks. I could use some review myself, it's been a while since I've looked at the differences. Also, can someone confirm the salt water regs on salmon and steelhead? No retention of wild Coho or Steelhead and everything else is kosher? Thanks.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Sagefishr on August 06, 2015, 10:09:05 AM
Second fish is a coho.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: dobrolub on August 06, 2015, 10:15:06 AM
Well... I haven't fished these species before, and I could tell you that even if you read and remember everything in the guide identifying your first few fishes is HARD!

First of all your hands are shaking. The adrenaline is high. Your heart is pumping! Eyes can't really focus and you have a stupid smile on your face.

Then as you're pulling it out someone from across the shore yells "Congrats! You've got a coho!". Great! They can tell from across the river but all you still see is that it's a fish.

And you keep having the dream of your float going down for quite a few nights after... All I am saying it's not easy to identify you first few catches.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: NiceFish on August 06, 2015, 10:17:51 AM
Rod always posts up a FISH ID thread every fall...

have a look
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=36384.0 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=36384.0)
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Kever on August 06, 2015, 10:24:14 AM
Rod always posts up a FISH ID thread every fall...

have a look
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=36384.0 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=36384.0)

Thank you.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: typhoon on August 06, 2015, 11:16:38 AM
Can someone post up a good link to help identify salmon? Seems pertinent now that Coho and Chinook are mixed in with the pinks. I could use some review myself, it's been a while since I've looked at the differences. Also, can someone confirm the salt water regs on salmon and steelhead? No retention of wild Coho or Steelhead and everything else is kosher? Thanks.
This link includes identification as well as regulations for retention. Retention of wild Coho or Trout is location dependent, as are limits for all Salmon.

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/points/salmon-saumon-eng.html
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: clarki on August 06, 2015, 11:49:23 AM
Sandman's comments to use a couple or three features to identify a fish is sound; I recall that very same advice on a similar thread a year or two ago.

Caudal fins can be deceiving. Pink and chinook tails are heavily spotted and at first glance can be confused. A coho with just a few faint spots on the upper lobe of the caudal can be confused for other species, as can a coho with spots on both lobes.

I caught a jack spring a few weeks ago off the beach. I was expecting a coho, and spots on the upper lobe of the caudal confirmed my initial assumption. Then I caught a whiff of the little bugger! Hold on... :)  A more thorough look at the entire caudal, and I think a peek at the gums too, confirmed the unexpected. Point being, you can be fooled by your expectations.                 
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: fossil on August 06, 2015, 11:12:22 PM
The guy who caught them exactly knows what kind fish they are! He just wanted to show off the sencond one, lol. They're pink and coho from Cap mouse.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: Fish or cut bait. on August 07, 2015, 08:43:56 AM
Caudal fin is the Tail.
Pectoral fins are the pair just behind the head.
(Some times clipped to identify as hatchery)
Dorsal fin is the big one on top.
Adipose fin is the small fin between the Dorsal and Caudal   (often clipped to identify it as hatchery)
Pelvic fins are the pair just ahead of the anus.
Anal fin is the bottom fin between the anus and Caudal.

Note: not all clipped hatchery fish are allowed to be retained.  Know the Regs and fish identity for the area you are fishing and that is best done while the fish is still in the water;  Not after it's been dragged up through the sand and over the rocks.
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: TimL on August 08, 2015, 04:04:19 PM
A bit late on this thread here...2nd fish is a coho..the rest are pinks.
Nice catch  :)
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: typhoon on August 08, 2015, 06:35:51 PM
One of these fish is not like the others (also from the Cap)
(http://gallery.flybc.ca/albums/album985/family.jpg)
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: TimL on August 08, 2015, 10:23:48 PM
One of these fish is not like the others (also from the Cap)
(http://gallery.flybc.ca/albums/album985/family.jpg)
Can't tell for sure as the photo's lacking resolution but my hunch: 2nd fish down is a small coho..the rest are pinks- 2 females and 1 male
Title: Re: what fish is it?
Post by: typhoon on August 09, 2015, 08:56:40 AM
Sorry for the quality.
Second one down is a hatchery coho. Bottom 2 are Pink males.