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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: brandooner on December 12, 2013, 03:24:56 PM
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What would be a good choice for line to spool up my center pin for steelheading?
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i just spool mine with 15lbs maxima green
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Either Maxima Chameleon or Ultra Green, there are many others and it will be your preference. I'm sure you'll get lots of other opinions here. :D
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After running Maxima lines for years on my pins I recently spooled one up with a mono line made by Seaguar. WOW what a difference and how much better it is compared to Maxima lines. Problem is I haven't found a shop that carries it in Canada yet and ordered it from Cabela's in the US.
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Right on thanks guys, i usually just go with the ol' ultra green, but i think I'm gunna try somthin different this year!
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After running Maxima lines for years on my pins I recently spooled one up with a mono line made by Seaguar. WOW what a difference and how much better it is compared to Maxima lines. Problem is I haven't found a shop that carries it in Canada yet and ordered it from Cabela's in the US.
How much did the seaguar run ya?
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After running Maxima lines for years on my pins I recently spooled one up with a mono line made by Seaguar. WOW what a difference and how much better it is compared to Maxima lines. Problem is I haven't found a shop that carries it in Canada yet and ordered it from Cabela's in the US.
I was using Seaguar line 4 year ago on my casting rod and didn't have good experience. Now, I am using 12 and 15 pounds Chameleon on my pins. Could you please provide name of this line. I would be very interested to try one.
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How much did the seaguar run ya?
Shipping and taxes was around $17
I was using Seaguar line 4 year ago on my casting rod and didn't have good experience. Now, I am using 12 and 15 pounds Chameleon on my pins. Could you please provide name of this line. I would be very interested to try one.
Senshi I think is the name of it
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Maxima or Big Game..
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Senshi I think is the name of it
Thanks a lot.
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Maxima on the PIN and Stren on the level.
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I use ultra green as well, but don't have much experience with anything else for comparisson.
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The seagar and MG are mono lines correct? Anyone have thought of fluro Carbon in comparison.
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Sufix. It is way better than Maxima
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Either Maxima Chameleon or Ultra Green, there are many others and it will be your preference. I'm sure you'll get lots of other opinions here. :D
X2 - After trying so many different fishing lines as well as braids I keep going back to Maxima, especially 15# & 20# Chameleon because I have yet to find a better abrasion resistant line that gives you confidence to fight fish in snaggy spots.
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I've been running Berkley Pro Spec the last little while and have been extremely impressed with it. I won't be going back to maxima any time soon.
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Johnny Canuck, what LB test and what color is the Seagaur Senshi you got for your pin?
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#20 Dacron plus #15 P-Line CXX mono
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12# and 15# big game never did me wrong....used some platypus low-stretch in pink for a couple of seasons; liked it....testing out berkley trans-optic in 15# this winter for steel.....
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Just tried the trans optic, for some reason it feels like it's coated with some kind of sticky stuff. It didn't feel too good at first but it got better with a few casts
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20# chameleon for me
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12 pd Maxima Ultra green on my level winds for 30 yrs. 8 to 10 pd Seagur fluoro carbon for leader.
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What size of a leader you guys are using #4 or 6?
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What size of a leader you guys are using #4 or 6?
8-15lb fluoro for me, no need to go super small for steel! Unless you are fishing super low clear water, but even then, i find 8lb does the trick
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Siglon FF #20 test in hi vis yellow. It is a full floating mono line specifically made for float fishing, I just nail knot on a 8' section of Seaguar #15 Flouro. I have been using it for a few years now and would never go back to spooling up with any type of Maxima.
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Sufix. It is way better than Maxima
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the suffix siege is better than the maxima chameleon...very smooth casting with the same strength, but less issues with abrasion.
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Probably a bonehead question...but what is the "difference" between Maxima UG and Chamelon? For example is one more abrasion resistant than the other, etc. I have seen many guys with Chamelon on their pins but never on a level wind, yet a lot of guys spool up with UG on their level winds. What's the deal?! Also UG is used a lot for leaders, but I've never heard of Chamelon used for leaders...is it too visible for such purposes?
Jonny Cannuck: I was in Cabela's Tulalip the other day and saw the Seaguar Senshi you were talking about. I swear I saw this line in Wholesale in Langley, but I could be mistaken. What do you like better about it compared to UG?
Personally after trying out Pline CXX-Xtra strong this year I'll be sticking with it as a mainline over UG. UG seemed to deteroriate faster and I found I was always cutting off 5-10 feet and retying after a day on the river. With the CXX much better the spool on my Currado 301E lasted the whole summer/fall with no issues. I probably didn't have to replace it for steelheading but I did just for a little extra confidence in my gear.
I'm interested to hear more about this Senshi and Suffix line. BTW, what Suffix line is this? I saw some Suffix mono at Walmart the other day, clear stuff, in a red box, can't remember the name though :o
EDIT: Ahhhh..just saw above "Suffix Seige."
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Here's a site with lots of info on different manufacturers lines. http://www.tackletour.com/menulines.html
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The seagar and MG are mono lines correct? Anyone have thought of fluro Carbon in comparison.
Yes both are mono. Flourocarbon, in my opinion, is not a sensible mainline as it is much more expensive than mono, and it's lesser visibility characteristics are only really useful for leaders. Years ago, not knowing better, I spooled up one of my baitcastes with flourocarbon for about $50. I didn't find it offered any benifets over mono mainline and it cost about 5 times as much. Some flouro companies claim their flouro is much more abrasion resistant that mono, but from my experience this is unfounded. In super clear water I sometimes use flouro leader for trout, coho, etc, but I think it's more of a confidence boost than anything else. A few buddies of mine fish only mono leaders and do as well or better than guys using flouro.
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I experimented using 50# sufix 832 on my silex last year. I really liked it! My landing percentage went down, so I need to experiment with a bit of a shock absorber tag mono or something. Highly recommend the line though..
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the stuff at Walmart in the clear red box is Suffix Elite. Suffix Siege is their greenish or multi coloured line I believe. I had to spool up with Suffix Siege back when it was a new product and only because the shop had no UG in stock. First day of usage I hated it and promptly took it off !!
I normally always use #15 UG on my reels however after the crappy performance I got this fall with the #15 I had put on at A&N, I too am thinking of putting on something different next season (my levelwind wont see action now until the fall again)
I will be considering that Hi-Vis yellow Siglon, I love doing long drifts or far away casts into tight spots so having something I can see is great. Seaguar is also on the list. Perhaps my next trip into the US I'll pick one or both of these lines up.
anyone use that Suffix Elite as leader material ??
I almost bought it to use for swinging flies (12lb) because its a great price for the amount you get but I wasn't sure so just grabbed 12lb UG instead
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i use to run pink siglon, stuff is garbage no restistance to abrasion at all the first 30 feet of it sounded like sandpaper coming through my guides after 2 days of fishing, would cut the 30 feet off and with a day or 2 the same thing would happen.
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the stuff at Walmart in the clear red box is Suffix Elite. Suffix Siege is their greenish or multi coloured line I believe. I had to spool up with Suffix Siege back when it was a new product and only because the shop had no UG in stock. First day of usage I hated it and promptly took it off !!
I normally always use #15 UG on my reels however after the crappy performance I got this fall with the #15 I had put on at A&N, I too am thinking of putting on something different next season (my levelwind wont see action now until the fall again)
I will be considering that Hi-Vis yellow Siglon, I love doing long drifts or far away casts into tight spots so having something I can see is great. Seaguar is also on the list. Perhaps my next trip into the US I'll pick one or both of these lines up.
anyone use that Suffix Elite as leader material ??
I almost bought it to use for swinging flies (12lb) because its a great price for the amount you get but I wasn't sure so just grabbed 12lb UG instead
Yeah it was the Suffix Elite at Walmart :) Down the road if I may try out some of the lines reccomended on this thread: Seaguar Senshi, Berkley Prospec and Suffix Seige.
Have you ever tried Pline CXX-Xtra strong for mainline? I bought it after several guys on this site reccomended it. Cheap from Basspro and often they have free shipping any amount promos. About 1/2 the price as UG and after fishing it all salmon season I find it just as good for low memory, castability, etc. IMO it is more durable than UG and I found myself cutting off the line before the swivel less often.
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this is the only P-line I have ever used and it was total garbage. I bought it in 12lb for swinging flies but it was so weak it broke on anything with barely any force. Made me feel I was fishing 4lb >:(
http://p-line.com/line/fluorocarbon-coated/floroclear
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I really like sufex elite quite strong thinner thank maxima cheaper and dosent seem to get the ruff dusty felling maxima can get I was using 12 pound for springs and landing them quick without problem
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this is the only P-line I have ever used and it was total garbage. I bought it in 12lb for swinging flies but it was so weak it broke on anything with barely any force. Made me feel I was fishing 4lb >:(
http://p-line.com/line/fluorocarbon-coated/floroclear
If you do a search for "best 17lb mono mainline" on this site you can find the thread I started back in the summer or so of this year. If you read through the comments you'll see several guys reccomended the CXX-Xra Strong for mainline. I ordered a 600yrd spool from Basspro as they had a free shipping any amount promo at the time, but WSS and A&N etc carry it too. I am really impressed with the 17lb and decided to order another spool of 20lb which I use on my bigger baitcaster which I use the odd time targeting springs in faster water.
Like kalex60 commented about the Suffix Elite (which I've never tried) the CXX-Xtra strong doesn't seem to get the rough dusty feel that Maxima seems to get quickly. I LOVE fresh UG, which is why I still use it primarily for leaders, but I was finding for mainline is deteroriated too fast and I was cutting it back a lot, sometimes in the middle of day's fishing. With the CXX I found this much less of an issue and it seems to "perform" as well as the UG in other areas (memory, etc).
I would reccomend it 100%. Too stiff though to use on a spinning reel IMO.
I like to try out new stuff so although I like this line a lot when I'm out of it I think I'll try the Berkley Prospec, Seaguar Senshi, or Suffix Seige. A lot of guys seem to like all 3 a lot. I love the UG for leaders and it never let's me down! Too much confidence in it to change. Also like Berkley XT in green for leaders it's awesome too :) When fishing for pinks, chum etc I tend to go through a lot of leader line so I use the XT as it's quite cheap compared to UG.
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I use 12 lb ultra green for mainline , 8 to 10 lb for leader, I've landed steelhead over 20 lbs on it.
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Anyone else using braid as their centerpin mainline?
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Braid tends too put more stress on reels many people don't want to accidentally damage there expensive centerpins
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For A pin i have been using berkely armor coat its awsome i really really like it much better than maxima i am fishing 15 pound casts very nice on my pin
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I tried 13.5 lb Sunline hi vis floating mono this fall as a test and really liked it. That was on my Abu bait caster not a CP but I think it would be even better on a CP.
http://www.sunlineamerica.com/siglon-f-monofilament-line/ (http://www.sunlineamerica.com/siglon-f-monofilament-line/)
BN
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Anyone else using braid as their centerpin mainline?
I use Power Pro for mainline on my Silex. Then a 15 or 20 lb fluorocarbon where the float will slide, and 12 lb Sunline or 15 lb Seaguard both fluorocarbon as leader. Being older now with a weaker hook set, if I cast across the river to the other side, braided mainline gives me a better hook set for the distance. Just play the steelhead gentler and softer to put less stress on the line and the cp. That is the beauty of playing a fish with cp anyway.
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Apologies for asking the same questions as a while ago in this thread, but can anyone tell me what the diff is between Maxima UG and Chamelon? I've never tried the Chamelon and am not sure if it's more suited for c/p mainline, etc.
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colour - UG is that clearish green colour, Chameleon is a dark burgundy
Chameleon is slightly stiffer and apparently more abrasion resistant than UG. myself I hated the Chameleon when I tried it on my reel.
thickness is the same at the same poundage
If your ever looking for a limp line then try out the Maxima Perfection. Its designed for spinning reels, I have used it and liked it a lot and bonus its clear. I have thought about using it for leaders
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Thanks HOOK. I use UG a lot for leaders and like it, although I've gotten away from is as mainline on my baitcasters as it's pricey compared to other monos and there seems to be better mainlines out there now. I'm looking forward to trying others that were reccomended on this thread, but for now I'm sticking to the CXX-Xtra strong and really like it.
Did you try the Chamelon on a centrepin or baitcaster? I don't own a centrepin set up (yet!) but am considering giving the Chamelon a shot on a baitcaster for kicks.
Never ehard of the Maxima Perfection. The Berkley XL on my spinning reel is getting a bit old and should probably be changed. I'll take a look at this line thanks :)
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Chameleon is "wirey" with lots of memory....did not work well on spinning reels when I tried it years ago....would think it would not work well on a baitcaster either....