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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: steelieman on March 11, 2006, 10:07:33 PM
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Today at Lickman!!!!!!
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That's why I avoid those types of areas. More fun to find a honey hole myself.
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Steelieman, did you get into any fish?
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Where's this on the Vedder ?
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No- I started at lower canal but did not touch anything nor see anyone with a fish on. Water was extremely low.
I thought I would try Lickman area fishing down to Bergman but could not stand the crowd and left.
I then went and tried below the ROCK QUARRY and fished some prestine water but did not touch anything either.
Went home after that- around 12:00
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That's why I avoid those types of areas. More fun to find a honey hole myself.
You are totally right leaping steely .It does make it more challenging,and more relaxing,Fish are all over the system now,low,mid and upper.But is ok,let them stay low ;)
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Easy access to Lickman- thats why so many fisher-person. And yah, they were just banging them every 10 minutes or so....
You have to start camping there by 3:00am to get your rock!!!!
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Here's another one taken to the left of the first one.
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Hi steelieman,it is true,that a lot of steelie pack in that run,so if you want a spot,you have to go camp out there by 1 oclock after midnight(this is a joke from the regulars) :D :D.but again there is no challenging,is just a meat hole over there.if anybody want easy acess and try to catch one,just go over there,trust me.... ;)
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Hi steelieman,it is true,that a lot of steelie pack in that run,so if you want a spot,you have to go camp out there by 1 oclock after midnight(this is a joke from the regulars) :D :D.but again there is no challenging,is just a meat hole over there.if anybody want easy acess and try to catch one,just go over there,trust me.... ;)
So true ;D
I remember the last time I was there, just watching. Every couple of minutes a new bunch of anglers would worm their way into the hole, and it would get more crowded literally by the minute. Thing is, there are quite a few fish there. I'm surprised they even bite, with all that pressure.
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I am kinda surprised too as the water is gin clear and not very deep. With that many lures and baits coming down, they will still bite. Just goes to show how aggressive steelies can be.
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Bill- the Vedder is such a huge river that you can always find solitude somewhere else. Eventhough I did not catch anything today fishing and walking below the crossing, I totally enjoyed it. Spoke to a couple guys here and there but it was nice. I had beautiful runs all to myself but unfortunately today, they were all sitting at Lickman. Almost impossible for them to get past those 40-50 fishermen.
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Personally,i dont fish over there,but last sunday,i did brought my son down there,but right across from them,and let him see what is a gong show looks like at that area,plus you can see they are using difference methods to fish that area(like b.b,long line,long leader,plus more,but of course some are using the right way,at least my son know how lucky he is,doesnt have to fish in the gong show area,but still get fish.
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Don't bother with those spots, there are lots of places steelhead hide, look in the deeper holdign water at these times, you'll find fish.
I'll be out tomorrow, although I don't know where, but I have some ideas 8)
Cheers,
Nicole
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PATHETIC
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I fished there once.
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one thing that didn't remind me about sockeye fishing was the presence of the conservation officers. I was checked twice today and was glad to see them .
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what needs to happen at lickman , is about 10 guys good fisherman all getb there really early get a spot all fish with centerpins,and spread out , any guys that come in too bad ,and watch guys try nto get in all day
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Thats great, IMO all those guys should just stay on the vedder so I dont see them ruining the rivers I like to fish. If there is ANYONE here who can say they enjoy fishing like that I'd like to hear the rationale. Ive always wondered what the appeal could possibly be.....for me when its busy like that its borderline disgusting.
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I think the majority of people that fish spots like those are only concerned about the catching, and not the sport (ie: meat fishermen)...so it follows that they aren't so much concerned about the quality of their fishing experience as they are with bringing a fish home...so be it, I don't have a problem with that, there's plenty more river for me to enjoy in relative solitude...
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steelie man, take a look at the looong leaders and the way those guys have the float aiming backwards because they are dragging the bottom with their weights. most of those fish are being slapped in the face with the leaders.
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Maybe somebody needs shopping cart it like they did before
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yeah, prob a high incidence of snagging with that technique
Mod adding it for Rib :) : ps: It is clear in hindsight my above comments were somewhat narrow minded in labelling others as meat fishermen, not only did I have no idea there was a derby going on but my generalization was unjust, and I would like to apologize for any offence it may have caused..
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Thats great, IMO all those guys should just stay on the vedder so I dont see them ruining the rivers I like to fish. If there is ANYONE here who can say they enjoy fishing like that I'd like to hear the rationale. Ive always wondered what the appeal could possibly be.....for me when its busy like that its borderline disgusting.
While I enjoy the "hunt" and solitude of the river(read: getting out alone) I do enjoy seeing others have success while out and about. As long as there are good people around I don't mind fishing in a crowd(within reason). Part of the enjoyment of fishing for me is the comrodery with others I don't know strictly because of this common interest. I enjoy bar fishing because it gives opportunity to wander around and meet other anglers. There is nothing "disgusting" about people(who are likely newer to steelheading) upping their chances of hooking one by fishing in a productive run as long as the method is legal and ethical.
The readers digest version is: To each his own.
:)
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I am not sure about the flossing but I know that if you flogged the fish with roe bags of shrimps enough time, it will get pissed off and snap at it.
I know people that fish that run that use 12" leader and still get fish.
I just cannot fish with that many people around me. Kudos to the people that doesn't mind fishing in that kind of stressed out condition.
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I was there today what a joke that spot is.But In the ten minutes of watching them I saw 2 fish landed in ten minutes.I went all over the river today with no luck .
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wow! i remember when the vedder was strickly catch and release before the hatchery you were lucky to see anyone
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PATHETIC
I cleaned up this picture, removed the twigs, and put the red dots, all to count 11 clowns in the same patch of water.
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This is really sad.
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Well Steelie man, of course you can catch fish with a 12 inch leader...its just that no one at that spot has one usually. Of course there are some genuine fishers in the bunch.
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Imagine standing there fishing and some beek slams his rod into yours as he"s trying to rip set the hook because his floats sinks due to his dredging teqniques.You wind in and on your next cast your upper half of your sage rod is now a 3 piece drift rod......................... :o
Need i say more.......................... :o
BEEKS
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Is this Cammer with the dog Colman?
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Cammer, you hit the nail on the head. Too many guys need to show the catch of the day.
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Why doesn't anyone explain that yesterday's crowding was due to the fact that there was a River Rat's derby in the area with 150+ participants?! There was plenty of decent water available in the mid and upper river.
And cammer, you sound too bitter, man! Time for you to go fishing or change hobbies! If nobody ever posted a fishing report, internet fishing fora would all go the way of the Dodo bird. ::)
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mostly because its like that every day.
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Whoa!
I would not go as far as associating posts that provide fishing reports, pictures and stories with gloating.
IMO, this forum is a vehicle for sharing information with fellow anglers....and a damn good one at that! Rod and his fellow moderators are doing an outstanding job.
If one cannot post fishing reports, pictures, stories and the like, then what should one post????
The irony of it is; those that are complaining here would likely be the first to post "Any Reports?"...if we stop posting reports altogether.....
my $0.02
SNAFU
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Yeah, that spot stacks fish allright. I bet that the fish trapped in there feel like pin cushions and have been hooked a dozen times a day.
In December though We had the spot to ourselves and hooked the shhhite outta them then to!
if you walk though, you will without a doubt find fish stacked like that and have the place to yourself.
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soxaroo,
Are you serious? If you're not joking then I have to take offense to anybody calling Chris & Nick beaks. Name me a couple of guys who care more about and are willing to do more for sport fishing in the Valley and I'll eat the five year old roe you may call bait... The only reason either of those two would be in the middle of that crap hole below Lickman is to collect fish for the hatchery.
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Sorry I don't buy the fishing report factor in crowding at any one spot. Way back when I first started, at least 10 years before internet was even around, most meat holes in the Vedder were lined up with people. They came without any online fishing reports. During the coho season, you could'nt crack a spot in Tamahi or the Limit Hole. During the steelhead season, the Bergman area was the meat hole because the river formed a bottle neck there. One morning in early march, over 50+ steels were hooked, and the place was flooded with people from before first night. During my young hot blood days of fishing, I tried to dare the crowd & showed up at Bergman meathole one morning in total darkness, only to find the place lined with people in the dark, reconizable by the lighted cigarettes in a line. I gave up the lower river after that & enjoy my serenity in the areas of the rapids.
What has crowding to do with a fishery report today? Gas is too expensive now for people to go steelheading anyways. Most know that their chance for a take-home steelhead is quite low, regardlessly what other's fishing result was like the day before. Perhaps that is why they try to focus on 'the more sure' spots such as Lickman. Not many newer fishers know where to start, and many just go where fishing has been consistently hot. If you notice Chris', mine, and other posters' reports, no one name their fishing spots. I am still trying to figure out the 'Diving Board Run' in Chris's report.... I was constantly looking for the diving board in the river.... ;D
I am with Johnny's position, to each his own. If you like or can live with crowd, go to Lickman, if you don't, go hide in the bush or hike in bear country. As long as fish are caught legally, and fish are biting, and someone does not mind the crowd, so be it. I don't like that type of fishing, but I respect others' choices. Personally I wish the river would rise & push those fish at Lickman out of there and not be like sitting ducks there. Enjoy your day out and fish in peace. :)
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Yep, exponential growth of fishing pressure on the Chilliwack River has been driven by the establishment of Fishing with Rod in 2001. :)
Because of this website, clowns, beaks, flossers, dredgers, heroes and <add characters who you dislike> purposely gather at your favorite spot just to ruin your fishing outing.
Before we go any further, we should clarify the definition of the above terms.
Clowns and beaks are people who like to socialize and fish together in a group. :)
Those who fish in a group must also be using long leaders and dredging the bottom, therefore unethical. :)
All of them who gather together at one spot in the photo, must have all read a report on March 10th on Fishing with Rod. :)
The amount of stereotyping in this thread is amazing, embarrassing too. Do you people speak like this to your friends and family?
So a photo with a dozen guys fishing together in one run, and immediately they are clowns? Were you there and had an unpleasant experience that was caused by these people? Were you there to examine their fishing techniques and setup to conclude that their fishing methods were unacceptable (note, unacceptable and illegal are completely different)? Has it occured to anyone that... this photo was taken on a Saturday, when a major derby was also happening?
What if...
What if these people all know each other, and were fishing together as a group?
What if they were enjoying themselves while doing so? (No.... That couldn't have possibly happened...)
Do you feel special by being negative about other people's fishing days?
Has it ever occured to anyone that, all of these anglers have bought a freshwater fishing licence and have as much right as you to participate?
Has it ever occured to anyone that, the population of Vancouver is um... slightly higher than 10, 20 years ago?
A disappointing thread to see indeed.
On the other hand, I see Milo had a good day: http://forum.fishbc.com/index.php?showtopic=31517
Like what Johnny said, to each of his or her own. You want to fish with people, fish with people. If you don't like crowd, don't stand around them and complain about it. Do you purposely stand around a garbage dump and complain about the smell? You want solitude, fish somewhere else.
soxaroo, you're getting slightly over the line by the way. That much closer to meet (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/Themes/default/images/english/delete.gif). Feel free to stay away from the discussions if you dislike the ways things are operated here, even though your constructive criticisms (uh ya...) on the state of our fisheries would be highly missed...
Cammer, there is a difference between a good fisherman, and a good fisherman who is respected. Guess which one people prefer to be around with?
We all maybe out there for the different reasons, but we are still participating in the same activity. Respect one another. The day when you should start whining is when this river becomes empty of both fishermen and fish.
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i agree i have been laughing at alot of these posts. fish somewhere else if its so bad ???
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