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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: rustybee on November 25, 2013, 10:05:50 PM
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Just bite the bullet and picked up a RH Milner Talisman this afternoon. Anyone knows if with the clicker turned on, that the reel clicks both ways? Mine seems to only click in one particular direction unlike my kingfisher which clicks either way. Thanks in advance for any info.
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Just bite the bullet and picked up a RH Milner Talisman this afternoon. Anyone knows if with the clicker turned on, that the reel clicks both ways? Mine seems to only click in one particular direction unlike my kingfisher which clicks either way. Thanks in advance for any info.
Talisman only clicks one way.
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It is design this way so when you have a fish on and the clicker engage, it only click when fish pull the line and not when you retrieve
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Thanks for the intel Fellas!
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Wow....you bit the bullet and bought a really expensive reel and yet you know nothing of it's operation ::)? It's like me saying that I bought a Sage 3113MB but I see that Fred's has a green one and mine is brown, mine must be fake!
Most people start out buying a starter reel or something a bit more expensive but you just decided you're gonna just get a Talisman! OH WAIT....somethings wrong with the clicker?? Must be nice to just go out and buy an $800+ reel not knowing anything about it!
Sorry but I'm starting to find it annoying that people really don't do the research on things. I understand that most people on this site are on here for info but c'mon, at some point people have to figure it out for themselves! Seriously though, I'm starting to think the reason people are seeing mistreatment of fish and the accidental retention of wild coho or steelhead is the lack of research.
Sorry for venting, it's probably just me but I would like to know everything about the things I purchase!
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Wow....you bit the bullet and bought a really expensive reel and yet you know nothing of it's operation ::)? It's like me saying that I bought a Sage 3113MB but I see that Fred's has a green one and mine is brown, mine must be fake!
Most people start out buying a starter reel or something a bit more expensive but you just decided you're gonna just get a Talisman! OH WAIT....somethings wrong with the clicker?? Must be nice to just go out and buy an $800+ reel not knowing anything about it!
Sorry but I'm starting to find it annoying that people really don't do the research on things. I understand that most people on this site are on here for info but c'mon, at some point people have to figure it out for themselves! Seriously though, I'm starting to think the reason people are seeing mistreatment of fish and the accidental retention of wild coho or steelhead is the lack of research.
Sorry for venting, it's probably just me but I would like to know everything about the things I purchase!
Already own a Islander Steelheader and a Milner Kingfisher. Made the assumption that the clicker would work the same, since I wasn't able to get a hold of an in store sample before I ordered the reel. This is despite, having spent enough hours shifting through threads on this reel.
I'm okay with you jumping all over me when it comes to not doing enough research before making the leap. But please don't be ignorant and make the assumption that such an oversight correlates to ignorance in handling fish or protecting our shared environment.
Might want to rethink such broad based assumptions as it can't be good for day to day interactions with people in general. Tight lines.
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Already own a Islander Steelheader and a Milner Kingfisher. Made the assumption that the clicker would work the same, since I wasn't able to get a hold of an in store sample before I ordered the reel. This is despite, having spent enough hours shifting through threads on this reel.
I'm okay with you jumping all over me when it comes to not doing enough research before making the leap. But please don't be ignorant and make the assumption that such an oversight correlates to ignorance in handling fish or protecting our shared environment.
Might want to rethink such broad based assumptions as it can't be good for day to day interactions with people in general. Tight lines.
Good answer rustybee. Too often people post without taking time to read what they have written before hitting the post button. Many times I have typed out a reply but then read it and decided not to post because it just stirs the pot.
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LOL...I actually did rethink and reread what I was going to post but hey I'm not the guy that bought a really expensive reel and didn't realize it came with a silent retrieve! Yes it's minor details and yes I did kinda assume but you know what, I rather assume and be proven wrong than someone that is caught off guard and stunned! Reminds me of a guy I fished near a couple years ago, I said nice reel and the guy says yeah it's the best...it's a John Kingfisher ;D!! Really eh...that's pretty sweet, oh by the way you have 4 coho there and the limit is 2! The guy clearly didn't read the regs buy yet he was gung-ho talking about his reel.
I shouldn't have assumed and perhaps I was just generalizing but if you are spending all that money on an above average priced reel and posting on this site asking about it, I'm sorry but my ignorance has some substance!
Anyone knows if with the clicker turned on, that the reel clicks both ways? Mine seems to only click in one particular direction unlike my kingfisher which clicks either way. Thanks in advance for any info.
It's pretty funny though!
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Good answer rustybee. Too often people post without taking time to read what they have written before hitting the post button. Many times I have typed out a reply but then read it and decided not to post because it just stirs the pot.
Haha. Comes with age and experience. Been there and made my share of foul ups too. ;D
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LOL...I actually did rethink and reread what I was going to post but hey I'm not the guy that bought a really expensive reel and didn't realize it came with a silent retrieve! Yes it's minor details and yes I did kinda assume but you know what, I rather assume and be proven wrong than someone that is caught off guard and stunned! Reminds me of a guy I fished near a couple years ago, I said nice reel and the guy says yeah it's the best...it's a John Kingfisher ;D!! Really eh...that's pretty sweet, oh by the way you have 4 coho there and the limit is 2! The guy clearly didn't read the regs buy yet he was gung-ho talking about his reel.
I shouldn't have assumed and perhaps I was just generalizing but if you are spending all that money on an above average priced reel and posting on this site asking about it, I'm sorry but my ignorance has some substance!
It's pretty funny though!
Ha. Ha. No harm no foul. Apology accepted. Tight lines.
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Enjoy the reel rustybee, I use a 4" from time to time but most times I stress about which reel/rod combo I wanna fish that day ;D ;)!!
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Most people start out buying a starter reel or something a bit more expensive but you just decided you're gonna just get a Talisman! OH WAIT....somethings wrong with the clicker?? Must be nice to just go out and buy an $800+ reel not knowing anything about it!
$800 reel?!? Wow. That must be some salmon slayer for that price.
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$800 reel?!? Wow. That must be some salmon slayer for that price.
Lol I wonder how long this thing would keep spinning before resistances finally stopped it...
You should time all three reels you have. That would be interesting.
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How long a centerpin reel spins has nothing to do with the quality of the reel, all it shows is the quality of the bearing. Talisman reels are a very high quality hand built reel, you get what you pay for, I know as I have had 3 of them and one was a custom order. There are some other centrepin reels out there that are commanding a very high price due to low #'s built and the quality, Clough is one comes to mind and the last I saw sold went for $3500 US. Rustybee, congrats on your new reel, you will enjoy it!
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I'll most likely get blasted for this response. Especially since I have very few posts. I think the reaction to the original poster's question was way over the top. Big deal the guy doesn't know how the clicker works. This gets you so fired up you need to draw up a lengthy response that makes him out to be an idiot. I think you may need to take a step back from the computer and have a reality check. There are some pretty horrible things in the world worth getting worked up about. A clicker on a fancy fishing reel isn't one if them.
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I'll most likely get blasted for this response. Especially since I have very few posts. I think the reaction to the original poster's question was way over the top. Big deal the guy doesn't know how the clicker works. This gets you so fired up you need to draw up a lengthy response that makes him out to be an idiot. I think you may need to take a step back from the computer and have a reality check. There are some pretty horrible things in the world worth getting worked up about. A clicker on a fancy fishing reel isn't one if them.
Some things in life are worth being worked up about. A clicker is not on my list, may be on a few forum members tho;)
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How long a centerpin reel spins has nothing to do with the quality of the reel, all it shows is the quality of the bearing. Talisman reels are a very high quality hand built reel, you get what you pay for, I know as I have had 3 of them and one was a custom order. There are some other centrepin reels out there that are commanding a very high price due to low #'s built and the quality, Clough is one comes to mind and the last I saw sold went for $3500 US. Rustybee, congrats on your new reel, you will enjoy it!
Thanks! Went out after work today and fished the Squamish. Quiet day and I think Chum season there has finally come to an end. Enjoyed the reel though. Balances better IMHO on the Sage CP3113MB than either the Kingfisher or the Islander. My last hookup was a 25lb male that decided to take off like a Spring down river, and it was nice knowing I had plenty of backing left on the Talisman when it finally decided to slow down. ;D
$3500 for a Clough? Yikes! And I thought my "gear collecting habits" were bad.... LOL. :)
Speaking of addictions. 3 Talisman? You must have quite the collection of reels! BTW, mind if I ask what customization you had done on your Talisman?
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I'll most likely get blasted for this response. Especially since I have very few posts. I think the reaction to the original poster's question was way over the top. Big deal the guy doesn't know how the clicker works. This gets you so fired up you need to draw up a lengthy response that makes him out to be an idiot. I think you may need to take a step back from the computer and have a reality check. There are some pretty horrible things in the world worth getting worked up about. A clicker on a fancy fishing reel isn't one if them.
My thoughts exactly. I just "bought" this pretty lady and her "clicker" only works one way. Should I get a refund?
Center-pin reels are only for chucking guts at fish anyway. Why all the big to-do about it? Some folk buy Mercedes cars and BMWs just to impress other people, when a Yugo would serve their needs just as well.
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My thoughts exactly. I just "bought" this pretty lady and her "clicker" only works one way. Should I get a refund?
Center-pin reels are only for chucking guts at fish anyway. Why all the big to-do about it? Some folk buy Mercedes cars and BMWs just to impress other people, when a Yugo would serve their needs just as well.
A Yogo will only attract UGLY girls............ ;D
Milners Reels are gems that will only appreciate by time till the maker stops making, then the price of the reel will skyrocket!!
Works of art IMO
Kh
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I'll most likely get blasted for this response. Especially since I have very few posts.
BOOOOOM!!!! :)
$3500 for a Clough? Yikes! And I thought my "gear collecting habits" were bad.... LOL. :)
BTW, mind if I ask what customization you had done on your Talisman?
I have a couple friends that collect centerpins and both have a Clough, 1 of them has an Anniversary Edition that a similar reel sold well over $6000. I personally don't like the idea of a centerpin with a drag system but if there's a need I guess people will pay for it!
rustybee, pretty much all the Milner reels are custom being that each one is individually hand made but there are certain things that people ask for when ordering direct from John. I had a specially made Kingfisher with unique porting and at the time I sent John numerous patterns that he shot down because he wanted to stay classic and now he makes them with a bunch of his reels, go figure! I also have others with something unique about them because I guess I didn't want the same as the next guy.
Tommybuckles,
That first reply was actually intended for you! ;) Well, that latter part of that reply anyway! Yeah...I'm passionate about the sport I love and yeah I'm a gear whore! Small details matter to me and I can appreciate the fact that he responded the way he did and respect him for it now. I didn't say he was an idiot just that spending more than the average and he didn't know how the reel worked...hmmm kinda odd? So now I think you may need to take a step back from the computer and have a reality check.
;D ....this pot is getting hot! ;D
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I'll most likely get blasted for this response. Especially since I have very few posts. I think the reaction to the original poster's question was way over the top. Big deal the guy doesn't know how the clicker works. This gets you so fired up you need to draw up a lengthy response that makes him out to be an idiot. I think you may need to take a step back from the computer and have a reality check. There are some pretty horrible things in the world worth getting worked up about. A clicker on a fancy fishing reel isn't one if them.
well stated, why rain on a guy's parade over something so petty ?
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Pin-nook,
I'm not going to engage in an online battle of semantics. All I'm saying is settle down. The guy just wanted some details on a centrepin that he was excited about. Who cares.
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I'll most likely get blasted for this response. Especially since I have very few posts. I think the reaction to the original poster's question was way over the top. Big deal the guy doesn't know how the clicker works. This gets you so fired up you need to draw up a lengthy response that makes him out to be an idiot. I think you may need to take a step back from the computer and have a reality check. There are some pretty horrible things in the world worth getting worked up about. A clicker on a fancy fishing reel isn't one if them.
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I'll most likely get blasted for this response. Especially since I have very few posts. I think the reaction to the original poster's question was way over the top. Big deal the guy doesn't know how the clicker works. This gets you so fired up you need to draw up a lengthy response that makes him out to be an idiot. I think you may need to take a step back from the computer and have a reality check. There are some pretty horrible things in the world worth getting worked up about. A clicker on a fancy fishing reel isn't one if them.
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Pin-nook you're the one who tore into him... :o ::)
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There was a reason why the old Hardy Jewels, Supers and Superbas were so popular in the old days. They worked as intended and were reliable. They also gained in value as the years went by. 60 years later they still do the same job as the day they were first made. The Islanders and Milners were basically copies of the same Hardy design, but made in much fewer numbers... and hence the greater cost.
A reel that spins too easily at the start is far more difficult to get used to. The Hardy reels and the Milners have a little bit of tension when beginning a cast. That bit of tension prevents over spin and line tangles as the power stoke speeds up, and the finger can be removed from the reel until the cast is well underway and the lure starts to slow down. Then, the finger just lightly feathers the spinning reel to a point when you want to stop it.
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There was a reason why the old Hardy Jewels, Supers and Superbas were so popular in the old days. They worked as intended and were reliable. They also gained in value as the years went by. 60 years later they still do the same job as the day they were first made. The Islanders and Milners were basically copies of the same Hardy design, but made in much fewer numbers... and hence the greater cost.
A reel that spins too easily at the start is far more difficult to get used to. The Hardy reels and the Milners have a little bit of tension when beginning a cast. That bit of tension prevents over spin and line tangles as the power stoke speeds up, and the finger can be removed from the reel until the cast is well underway and the lure starts to slow down. Then, the finger just lightly feathers the spinning reel to a point when you want to stop it.
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There is also a 4" classic Silex Major which I have. It is lot fun to cast with holding trigger up and slightly put my finger to stop spool from casting any further.
I guess I am just old school.......just love my Silex reels. ;D
Silex-user
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Congrats on the purchase!! Enjoy ;D
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Congrats on the purchase!! Enjoy ;D
Thanks! Got my eye now on a Milner Wraith after playing with one yesterday. ;D
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Thanks! Got my eye now on a Milner Wraith after playing with one yesterday. ;D
Where does the Wraith fit in the Snipe / Kingfisher / Talisman series ??
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its a 3 3/4(i think?) reel , basically a smaller kingfisher...i have one somewhere in my house that john gave me as a prototype to test out...its a pretty nice little reel
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Hey Forbes you wore out your welcome on other sites and now you are saying pins are only for chucking guts. Is that like saying flys are for jeans..
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;D ;D I remembered him from the other sites to but didn't want to go there plus I don't mind some of his insights! I'll admit that I did try to stir the pot, especially at the beginning of this post but all the old characters that frequented all the sites back then have all quit or gone silent.