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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: mikeyman on June 29, 2015, 03:38:56 PM
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Anyone planning on going up for opening? How's the water look?
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Yup. No idea. Water levels are low, so my guess would be low and clear.
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Given the fact that it hasn't rain for weeks combine that with a low snow pack I would think the river will be raging. ;)
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The water is super super low.
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2 chaps thought today was opening day, when I informed them July 1, they fled down the Rotary Trail. ;D
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I saw those teens too they knew what they where doing they learned it from there elders
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I was planning to go tomorrow for my second time ever, but I'm thinking maybe it shouldn't be fished at all with the lack of water. Still waffling on that, thinking that maybe if the DFO hasn't announced a non opening it's ok?
Kinda ironic, I've just this year learned of all the fishing opportunities an hour from my house, spent about 1500$ getting all of the stuff, and now might decide to leave it on the rack...
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Vedder is a put and take fishery. Don't c&r and stop if you get your limit.
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I was planning to go tomorrow for my second time ever, but I'm thinking maybe it shouldn't be fished at all with the lack of water. Still waffling on that, thinking that maybe if the DFO hasn't announced a non opening it's ok?
I would wait a few more days, few if any springs in the system at the moment. Water levels are lowish, but not critical like on the island, so try in a week and take the shiny off all that new bling.
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True Typhoon, toured the river, heard of none caught, I put pictures on the Fraser Valley Salmon Society FB page including action at KWB. ;D
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What is the stamp river then???
Oh ya the vedder of the island.
And it's closed...
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I'm not heading to the Vedder until there is some substantial rain...otherwise wait until the fall...carp and bass are fun too until salmon time... ;)
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I'm not heading to the Vedder until there is some substantial rain...otherwise wait until the fall...carp and bass are fun too until salmon time... ;)
Looks like you won't be fishing there this summer then.
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Fished the canal on Canada Day for about 4 hours. Didn't expect to see any action (was taking my 7 year old out with his first big boy fishing rod) but managed 2 small guys to the beach. "Small guys" being either immature salmon or trout - no sign of any springs at all. Great day, huge bonus to let him land a couple of fish, amazing weather and my little guy is really getting the hang of casting so what more can you ask for! 8)
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Out again today for a walkabout... Lots of little guys patrolling the river but no sign of big reds....
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have fished the past 2 days and there are actualy some fish around there were some reds in the upper river we found sitting in a tail out and have seen a few rolling in the lower
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have fished the past 2 days and there are actualy some fish around there were some reds in the upper river we found sitting in a tail out and have seen a few rolling in the lower
Interesting. I was in Fred's yesterday and they haven't heard of a spring hit above the highway bridge. The ones rolling and in the tail out could just be sockeye.
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Went out yesterday for a few hours but nothing. Buddy beside me landed a nice little steelie smolt (?) around a pound or so that he carefully released.
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A bit off topic but yesterday I watched a large mink catch a silvery fish of about 8", most likely a hatchery released steelhead or small whitefish, at the boomsticks, Vedder Bridge. I certainly knew they ate fish, now I have a better appreciation of their hunting ability as this guy came off the bottom, maybe 8' deep in mid river, firmly holding it's catch. Very cool to see :)
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Quite a few trout around but no springs in the upper yesterday.
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Got a solid little 10'' hatchery rainbow yesterday that I released. Giving it another shot today.
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A bit off topic but yesterday I watched a large mink catch a silvery fish of about 8", most likely a hatchery released steelhead or small whitefish, at the boomsticks, Vedder Bridge. I certainly knew they ate fish, now I have a better appreciation of their hunting ability as this guy came off the bottom, maybe 8' deep in mid river, firmly holding it's catch. Very cool to see :)
This is why you need to carry a camera on your dalily walks as you seldom carry a fishing rod these day. :-X
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There a few fish around. I go walking on the Rotary Trail every morning and I have seen two springs landed.
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I was out on the Vedder today. Had a little bit of action from coarse fish but no sign of springs.
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I saw another spring caught this morning-It was very close to chrome,only a slight touch of colour and it was in the 10lb. range.
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Saw this video clip of a nice red spring caught yesterday. I have been out 4 times this season and have only caught a couple steelhead smolts which were carefully released. I have seen a couple fish rise (likely sockeye) but that's it. The springs seem to be few and far between or they're just shooting through the river to the hatchery due to the low and gin clear water. Will likely try tomorrow in the lower river. I will post my report tomorrow evening. Anyways tight lines all! http://youtu.be/vwOraqRDDsE
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If someone were looking to do some backtrolling on the Vedder, where would they normally do that? Lower river? Upper?
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The only place people fish from boats is the lowest portion before it meets the Fraser. This area is called the canal and is to slow and snaggy to back troll. The chilliwack vedder systems runs are to small to back troll IMO. This method hasn't really caught on in the Fraser, although we have done it up North quite a bit for Chinook.
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From Fred's fishing report under the Chilliwack/Vedder system
"Back trolling from a boat with Flatfish, Kwikfish, and Brad's Wigglers is becoming more and more popular."
The part of the canal I have seen wouldn't be fast enough it seems. The upper I'm not sure there is enough water consistently. Granted, I grew up backtrolling in much less water but a lot fewer people too. Just not sure where Fred's thinks this is happening.
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Ya I just checked their site and you're right. I would assume they meant to put that in the Fraser slot on their reports section as I'm sure you've read here before it's like front page news on this site whenever a boat goes passed the hwy 1 bridge. The absolute farthest I've seen a jet on the vedder was going up at Peach but I've heard of them going above the crossing. Never seen a boat fishing above hwy 1 though not saying it's happened. There's just to easy of shore access to make it worth it. That and the self entitled shore fisherman would have a fit if the boat ran through the run.
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Ya I just checked their site and you're right. I would assume they meant to put that in the Fraser slot on their reports section as I'm sure you've read here before it's like front page news on this site whenever a boat goes passed the hwy 1 bridge. The absolute farthest I've seen a jet on the vedder was going up at Peach but I've heard of them going above the crossing. Never seen a boat fishing above hwy 1 though not saying it's happened. There's just to easy of shore access to make it worth it. That and the self entitled shore fisherman would have a fit if the boat ran through the run.
I saw a boat zooming up under the HWY 1 overpass yesterday.
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Back trolling, at least the way I did it years ago, involves rowing, no motor, slowly floating downstream but slower than the current, allowing your lure to work downstream from you. I would assume the nameless hordes on the river probably wouldn't appreciate a boat floating through when you can cast all the way across.
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Probably not. But I would rather see people pulling plugs from a drift boat than a bunch of people in jet boats.
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Been out probably 12-14 times since the opening, have only seen 3 springs landed and a lot of sockeye rising from the crossing down over last week and a half. Tons of steelhead smolts both on the fly and drift rod for me but that's it for this guy. Did have the pleasure of watching a ripper get busted and ticketed at KWB as he was trying to snag sockeye. Good to see atleast some get caught
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What is a ripper, please?
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What is a ripper, please?
I could be wrong, but I think a ripper is a snagger who fishes with an extremely long leader and rips the fishing line through the water in hopes of snagging or lining a fish. Please do correct me if I'm wrong.
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What is a ripper, please?
Jack.
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What is a ripper, please?
Snagger, ripping thier line when it drifts over fish to try and snag them. There was a 5-6 sockeye sitting in the pool at KWB he was trying to snag
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Back on topic, the fishing today was very slow. Fished the peach road area and saw no signs of any springs or sockeye for that matter. Caught a couple steelhead smolts but nothing else. Didn't see anyone else get anything either. The river is in desperate need of some rainfall. If you are planning to fish the river, first or last light will be key in these conditions. Also, if you head out during mid day, you can expect to see many people sunbathing along the river, swimming or tubing which is a conflict of interest for fisherman to say the least. While I was fishing the run, a guy decided to come over and dive right in front of me into the pool I was fishing. Had to have a laugh! ;D I packed it in and headed home after that!
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Here's a pic of the river in the peach road area. (http://rs300.pbsrc.com/albums/nn5/bonhommebros/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsvd9latxu.jpg~320x480)
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Here's a pic of the river in the peach road area. (http://rs300.pbsrc.com/albums/nn5/bonhommebros/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsvd9latxu.jpg~320x480)
Lol was it right at the point by the Rapids? I had same thing happen there on Monday
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Lol was it right at the point by the Rapids? I had same thing happen there on Monday
Yes it was. Quite funny lol ;D
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Been fishing the last few days but have had no action, nor have I seen anyone around me get anything either besides the odd steely smolt. This is usually around the time I would start hooking these reds or at least see others catch some. The super low and clear water conditions have indeed affected this year's run. Hopefully the temperature drops a little to make the fishing more comfortable for the lazy guy who doesn't like getting up early and fishing at first light. :D Has anyone had any luck recently? I'll post a pic of the conditions on the lower river this morning.
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(http://rs300.pbsrc.com/albums/nn5/bonhommebros/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150719_075947_zpshugpzndn.jpg~320x480)
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Been fishing the last few days but have had no action, nor have I seen anyone around me get anything either besides the odd steely smolt. This is usually around the time I would start hooking these reds or at least see others catch some. The super low and clear water conditions have indeed affected this year's run. Hopefully the temperature drops a little to make the fishing more comfortable for the lazy guy who doesn't like getting up early and fishing at first light. :D Has anyone had any luck recently? I'll post a pic of the conditions on the lower river this morning.
3 so far, 2 lost and very nice for the table too, go well with Joiner corn. With the Fraser openings much in doubt for some time, I need to get some nice chinook for eating fresh and to can.
Working on The Journal before Rod fires me.lol
Also all the swimmers make it good for plucks but some leave too much garbage behind as well, beaks. ::)
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A lot of fish just shot right up. Head to the old limit hole and go for a look. There's over 100 fish sitting in there. Gin clear so you could see each individual fish.
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3 so far, 2 lost and very nice for the table too, go well with Joiner corn. With the Fraser openings much in doubt for some time, I need to get some nice chinook for eating fresh and to can.
Working on The Journal before Rod fires me.lol
Also all the swimmers make it good for plucks but some leave too much garbage behind as well, beaks. ::)
Glad to hear that some fish are being caught. It motivates me to continue hunting for these illusive buggers. ;) Was out on peach today this morning and saw a couple springs rolling but was unable to trick any of them to bite. Oh well, it was nice to atleast see a few fish moving through. Who knows, maybe luck will be on my side later this week.
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A lot of fish just shot right up. Head to the old limit hole and go for a look. There's over 100 fish sitting in there. Gin clear so you could see each individual fish.
Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to go up there and check it out. Maybe the upper river fish will be more responsive to my roe. :)
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(http://rs300.pbsrc.com/albums/nn5/bonhommebros/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150720_064151_zpsdrsybyh6.jpg~320x480) Here are a couple pics of the conditions on the lower Vedder this morning.
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(http://rs300.pbsrc.com/albums/nn5/bonhommebros/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150720_064156_zpsqddblzgg.jpg~320x480)
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Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to go up there and check it out. Maybe the upper river fish will be more responsive to my roe. :)
I would stay lower down, those stacked up fish in the upper are heavily coloured and do not make good table fare. Better chance in the lower of getting a clean fish for the table. :P
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what are the regulations now? everything is changing all the time.
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what are the regulations now? everything is changing all the time.
Currently the Vedder/Chilliwack River regulations have remained the same and there are no closures to my knowledge. Who knows, the Vedder may close soon so keep an eye out.
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Can someone explain the sharp drop in water levels today?
http://wateroffice.ec.gc.ca/report/report_e.html?type=realTime&stn=08MH001
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I was out on the 22nd. Mid River on the run all to myself. Fish showing themselves every couple seconds. Springs rolling and scaring the crap out of sockeye of which I saw about 15 schooled up together. My hands were shaking as I was gearing up. After dozens of drifts with chum roe and no takers, finally decided to put my rod down and tie up some fluorocarbon leaders. That was the ticket! Six brought to hand ... one bonked. Two on jigs. The low clear conditions made it easy to spot and target fish. Tight lines all.
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dave c, what lb test of mono leader were you using before switching to fluorocarbon? Thanks.
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Checked out the lower C-V this morning and was surprised to see that the water was a bit higher and had a slight colour to it. I saw a few fish rolling as well. Fished for a while with some jigs and prawns. After about 25 mins the float dipped, but I was too late on the hookset. :-\ I didn't have any more action after that. Anyways, tight lines!
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(http://rs300.pbsrc.com/albums/nn5/bonhommebros/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150725_151832_zpseaxbimuq.jpg~320x480)
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Went out on the Vedder early this morning. There are plenty of trout to keep you busy but no action from the Springs for me or anyone I spoke to.
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I Was out yesterday morning till about lunch time and I have never seen the Vedder this low. Mind you Ive only been fishing it for 3 years but it is really low and clear. Got an aggressive steely smolt on my second cast and didnt get a sniff of anything for the rest of the morning. Saw one guy catch and release a sockeye.
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Tried the lower C-V this morning around peach and experienced the best fishing I've had all season. As soon as I got to the river and started setting up my gear, a guy down from me hooked and landed a nice red spring which was retained. Quite a few guys out as well BTW. After a half hour, I landed and released a nice sockeye. It was fighting like a spring, and I thought it was until I could ID the fish. Landed and released another smaller sockeye an hour later. I hooked three other fish a bit later but lost em all due to a bad hookset. :-\ Tons of fish jumping everywhere as well. Anyways we have a week or so of reasonably good fishing so get out there and enjoy! Tight lines!
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dave c, what lb test of mono leader were you using before switching to fluorocarbon? Thanks.
10lb Maxima Ultragreen
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Decided to hit the Vedder this AM for a few hours of late season spring fishing. Was fishing in the peach road area btw. River was very low. A couple guys were out, but not as many as last week. Got to the river at 4:30am and left at 9:00am. Not a whole lot of action until about 7:30am. Fish were jumping everywhere (mostly sockeye), but no biters. Was just about to leave after a couple hours of no luck, but decided to make a couple last drifts. Then all of the sudden, the float dipped and after a 15 min battle, I landed my first spring of the season. Not a bad way to wrap up the summer red spring run. There are still a few decent fish out there, you just have to hunt for them. The run is tapering off with a few or so more days of good fishing. Good luck all!
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Nice Fish!
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Busier you say. Probably has a lot to do with you posting your spot on the Internet all the time . Just some food for thought.
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Busier you say. Probably has a lot to do with you posting your spot on the Internet all the time . Just some food for thought.
If you actually read his report, he saw fewer people compared to last week.
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Also a big difference between a Friday and Sunday morning.
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Also a big difference between a Friday and Sunday morning.
Not anymore, I sometimes question if people even work anymore.
There is a difference but it's minimal.
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Busier you say. Probably has a lot to do with you posting your spot on the Internet all the time . Just some food for thought.
Never thought of that. Good to keep in mind, but I don't mind seeing others out on the river just as long as they're fishing respectfully and ethically. I do agree with Humpy that there really isn't too much of a difference fishing pressure wise between weekdays or weekends anymore. I've been fishing almost daily and haven't noticed too many more people on a Saturday/Sunday.
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Nice Fish!
Thanks! :)
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Peach Road is hardly a "secret" spot.
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lot's of people do stay-cations and fish locally. Then there are other folks who are retired or semi-retired(like me) and can get out fishing outside the weekend warrior rush.
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Peach Road is hardly a "secret" spot.
There are no secrets on the Vedder. Even mentioning fishing the "lower / upper " river spots can be discovered with very little know how. The tackle shops send hundreds of guys to familiar areas like Peach and more which I won't mention.
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Was out the other night and didn't see any anglers had the river to my self. More people floating by on tubes than fishing. Water was toasty warm and extremely low.
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Just go pick up the map from fred's . Even the notion of a secret spot is pretty laughable ,but at least let people do some leg work and explore for themselves. Isn't that part of the learning curve anymore ? Learning where fish will hold and how to read water, and not just say oh there's a group of people/cars we need to fish there too lol
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Nice fish Fic, have been busy doing renos, so nice of you to post a pic to make me drool!!