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Title: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: BC Fishing on February 07, 2017, 12:57:43 PM
"We set up an experiment to see if smelly flies had an effect on Trout but we didn't expect what we saw!
Have a look for yourself."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C61xoE-jSE8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C61xoE-jSE8)
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: Rieber on February 07, 2017, 07:40:32 PM
I found that to be far less exciting than I thought it would be.

I don't like the concept of scented flies.
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: clarkii on February 08, 2017, 07:40:49 AM
Might as well post this in general discussion.
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: RalphH on February 08, 2017, 08:24:15 AM
If you think your flies don't already have a scent - you're dreamin'
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: clarkii on February 08, 2017, 08:59:20 AM
If you think your flies don't already have a scent - you're dreamin'
I don't think they don't, I recognize that flies get trace scent from the materials they are tied with.  However I am not convinced these trace scents attract fish, take foam dry flies for example or flies such as tequila boobies, synthetic materials everywhere and they work really well.  One of the best winter nymphs for our area uses only one natural material, and it is the tail.

Adding scent for the purpose of attracting fish however is outside those naturally in the materials and constitutes bait fishing.
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: psd1179 on February 08, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
who can tell me why anise oil or garlic attract fish? There is no anise nor garlic in the any water.
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: typhoon on February 08, 2017, 05:11:40 PM
who can tell me why anise oil or garlic attract fish? There is no anise nor garlic in the any water.
They don't attract fish. They mask the bad human scents that repel fish.
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: RalphH on February 08, 2017, 05:24:23 PM
They don't attract fish. They mask the bad human scents that repel fish.

that's the other thing on your flies clarkii - the stinky smell of fingers. We used to spit on lures & bait - it seemed to work.

Most feathers and fur actually have quite an appreciable amount of scent. Bucktail and deer hair can be almost rank - hardly describable as a trace.
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: skaha on February 08, 2017, 06:36:34 PM
--Maybe they should only allow use of fly's in areas where bait fishing is allowed then.
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: clarkii on February 09, 2017, 07:24:50 AM
who can tell me why anise oil or garlic attract fish? There is no anise nor garlic in the any water.
Pretty sure these aren't made to mask human scent

https://www.amazon.com/PowerBait-Natural-Glitter-Trout-Bait/dp/B003VUT7LY

http://www.lakemichiganangler.com/store/Luhr_Jensen_Eggs.htm

that's the other thing on your flies clarkii - the stinky smell of fingers. We used to spit on lures & bait - it seemed to work.

Most feathers and fur actually have quite an appreciable amount of scent. Bucktail and deer hair can be almost rank - hardly describable as a trace.
If you have almost rank materials they were not preserved properly.

Please explain how the bacteria and enzymes in your mouth mirror the scent found in the oils of your hand.   ::)
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: RalphH on February 09, 2017, 07:57:46 AM
Trout salmon and most fish are able to detect scents & tastes far beyond what humans can, so if you think 'cause you can't detect such in tying materials well don't assume fish can't.
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: typhoon on February 09, 2017, 08:46:12 AM
Pretty sure these aren't made to mask human scent

https://www.amazon.com/PowerBait-Natural-Glitter-Trout-Bait/dp/B003VUT7LY

http://www.lakemichiganangler.com/store/Luhr_Jensen_Eggs.htm
If you have almost rank materials they were not preserved properly.

Please explain how the bacteria and enzymes in your mouth mirror the scent found in the oils of your hand.   ::)

Spit contains food. Cheese, bread, peanut butter, and coffee are great masking agents. A lot of old timers swore that tobacco smoke was also effective.
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: psd1179 on February 09, 2017, 10:56:12 PM
Spit contains food. Cheese, bread, peanut butter, and coffee are great masking agents. A lot of old timers swore that tobacco smoke was also effective.

So scent is a joke or something. What the scent is going to mask then? How could fish hate human scent more than cheese, peanut butter and tobacco? And what is human scent anyway.
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: typhoon on February 10, 2017, 03:36:04 AM
So scent is a joke or something. What the scent is going to mask then? How could fish hate human scent more than cheese, peanut butter and tobacco? And what is human scent anyway.
That is an odd statement. Salmon and steelhead use trace scents to return to the water of their birth. Even small amounts of bad stuff can turn them away from your offering.

 "Human" scent includes petroleum products, perfumes and other human made smells that fish don't like.
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: clarkii on February 10, 2017, 06:33:07 AM
Trout salmon and most fish are able to detect scents & tastes far beyond what humans can, so if you think 'cause you can't detect such in tying materials well don't assume fish can't.

Im still waiting for you to explain how oily hands are the same as spit.
Title: Re: Scented fly experiment (underwater footage)
Post by: RalphH on February 10, 2017, 01:47:16 PM
I think you have the relationship bass akwards  ::)