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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: milo on September 25, 2008, 10:10:05 PM

Title: Cutting the head off
Post by: milo on September 25, 2008, 10:10:05 PM
Is it legal to cut the head off the fish at the river?

Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: DionJL on September 25, 2008, 10:12:15 PM
No
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: Every Day on September 25, 2008, 10:13:17 PM
Such a pain to keep the head and tail on....  :-\
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: DionJL on September 25, 2008, 10:27:16 PM
Page 11 of the Freshwater fishing synopsis.

Quote
Leave the head, tail and all fins on
your catch until you get them to your
permanent (ordinary) residence.
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: DionJL on September 25, 2008, 10:30:30 PM
Here ye be.

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/IH8XC/HeadOn.jpg)
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: DionJL on September 25, 2008, 10:37:38 PM
Ghost Fish, those regulations are for Salmon (or Fin Fish) fishing in salt water, but Milo asked about fishing rivers.
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on September 25, 2008, 11:03:48 PM
Ghost fish is correct as long as its over the size limit with the head removed it can be done. Tail is left on for identification.
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: Rodney on September 25, 2008, 11:06:34 PM
ACTUALLY! I just found it, nothing about salt or fresh water.

(http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/images/package/package_cover.jpg)

It's a sportfish packaging guideline for tidal waters.
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: DionJL on September 25, 2008, 11:12:51 PM
Thanks for the back up Rod. ;D
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: milo on September 25, 2008, 11:28:25 PM
Thanks, Rodney and Dion.
That's what I thought, but wasn't 100% sure.

Frankly, I don't see why the saltwater packaging rule wouldn't apply to salmon in the rivers.
The heads could sure add more nutrients to the system.
But the law is the law and it's to be obeyed.

Cheers,

Milo
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: DionJL on September 26, 2008, 09:22:53 AM
Little bit. But I did find the site you posted before I made my post.  Then after your post I started thinking along Milo's line of thought; "Why would tidal salmon be different from non-tidal"
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: CustomRetrieval on September 26, 2008, 02:29:00 PM
Cutting the head off is legal:
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/regulations/#Saltwater

Salmon and Saltwater Fishing
Freshwater Salmon Regulations

The management of salmon fisheries in B.C., in both tidal and freshwater, is the responsibility of Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO). Unlike previous years, DFO's regulations for salmon fishing in freshwater are not included in this Synopsis. This year, for conservation and fisheries management reasons, this information will be published by DFO in a supplement to this Synopsis, which will be available where you purchase your licence, or at any DFO office.

Barbless hooks are required for salmon fishing in all freshwater, as well as all tidal waters in B.C.

Please note that when freshwaters are closed to fishing or have gear restrictions outlined in this Synopsis, these regulations apply to salmon as well as to non-salmon species.

For information on all the salmon regulations,
please contact the Department of Fisheries and Oceans (DFO)

Updated freshwater salmon regulations are listed in the Freshwater Salmon Supplement( http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/KeyPoints/packaging_e.htm (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/KeyPoints/packaging_e.htm) ). as well as information on salmon identification and packaging salmon for transport.



Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: Rodney on September 26, 2008, 02:36:24 PM
That's correct CustomRetrieval. It was my initial thought that it would also apply to freshwater salmon. I decided to generalize a bit as Milo asked about fish in rivers, not just salmon. This is a huge problem by having two different levels of government managing fish in this country.

I can almost bet on that if a provincial conservation officer encounters an angler with a headless salmon in the river, the angler will be given a hard time or even fined because the provincial conservation officer is only trained with provincial freshwater regulations.
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: milo on September 26, 2008, 02:40:46 PM
Thanks, CustomRetrieval!
It seems Bobo and Ghostfish were right from the very beginning. ;)

I don't know about the rest of you, but I will start cutting those heads off now and tossing them to the river along with the guts and trimmings. Many river dwellers will thank me for it.

Note: make sure the headless fish equals or exceeds the minimum size limit.
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: CustomRetrieval on September 26, 2008, 02:57:16 PM
To add to the jurisdiction confusion, is a Steelhead a salmon as far as the prov/dfo is concerned? Can you legally cut a steelheads head off riverside?

Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: BigCoho on September 26, 2008, 03:43:43 PM
I'll cut the head off if its a spring, less crap to stink up my garbage cans
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: fish4fun on September 26, 2008, 07:58:40 PM
I wouldn't go cutting the heads off steelhead. Although there are differences of opinion many believe they are in the trout/char family. Also they are in the list of species included in the freshwater regs for each region. I always cut the heads off the salmon I catch if they are over the limit size without it. I also discussed it with a DFO officer a few years ago and he agreed with that practise as only the tail is necessary to identify what species a salmon is. I don't think that is true for steelies though. However if you catch a fairsized salmon don't forget to dig out the cheeks before you chuck that head. Although they're small they are good eating. Mike<><..
Title: Re: Cutting the head off
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 26, 2008, 08:15:34 PM
Another reason for not cutting the head off a steelhead is to save it and turn it in to fish depot.