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Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: FishOn36 on July 19, 2010, 07:34:23 PM

Title: Flipper issues
Post by: FishOn36 on July 19, 2010, 07:34:23 PM
I bought a pair of $60 "Protac" flippers along with my float tube on Saturday from Army & Navy, took the setup out to Rolley lake on Sunday and had a hell of a time with the flippers falling off. I was wearing them over my neoprenes (with no boots or shoes of any kind), they are size Large and I wear size 12 shoes. Initially I adjusted the straps on them to where it was comfortable, but just after kicking off shore they almost fell off. So I cranked them a bit tighter and my big toes were crunched pretty good..at the end of the day I could barely kick back to shore. I'm wondering if I should be wearing some kind of shoes with them? or are they too big/small or something, or just plain crappy flippers? If that's the case I'll have to try and return them and check out wholesale sports for a better set  :-\
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: clarki on July 19, 2010, 10:06:57 PM
My Protac fins from A&N don't have the problem that you describe, however one fin also broke in half  ::)

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=24335.0 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=24335.0)
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: FishOn36 on July 19, 2010, 11:27:12 PM
My Protac fins from A&N don't have the problem that you describe, however one fin also broke in half  ::)

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=24335.0 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=24335.0)

I'm not sure what the deal is with these things....were u wearing any kind of shoe with them or just directly of neoprenes?
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: doja on July 20, 2010, 12:04:57 AM
I'm pretty sure you MUST wear shoes with them :D  I've never heard of anyone not wearing something over the neos.

Any kind will do like runners but I'd think a higher cut hiker may work better as it hold onto your ankle better and be less stress on your foot with more padding.

Grab a pair from a thrift store for cheap.

Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: FishOn36 on July 20, 2010, 12:28:29 AM
I'm pretty sure you MUST wear shoes with them :D  I've never heard of anyone not wearing something over the neos.

Any kind will do like runners but I'd think a higher cut hiker may work better as it hold onto your ankle better and be less stress on your foot with more padding.

Grab a pair from a thrift store for cheap.



LOL  :-[
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: HOOK on July 20, 2010, 12:59:13 AM
are the flippers you have the same as the top set here ??

http://www.gonefishinshop.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page11.html

I had pretty much the exact same ones but my flipper part was a clearish white colour but still made by Pro-Tac. I used to wear mine over just the neo's and yes had to have them very tight. tried them over several pairs of shoes and none were ever comfortable or just plain didnt work.

I did use a pair of those slip on Neo beach shoes and they worked ok .......... if they stayed on  >:(
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: FishOn36 on July 20, 2010, 01:12:11 AM
are the flippers you have the same as the top set here ??

http://www.gonefishinshop.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page11.html

I had pretty much the exact same ones but my flipper part was a clearish white colour but still made by Pro-Tac. I used to wear mine over just the neo's and yes had to have them very tight. tried them over several pairs of shoes and none were ever comfortable or just plain didnt work.

I did use a pair of those slip on Neo beach shoes and they worked ok .......... if they stayed on  >:(

Yes they're the same ones, color and all. It's gonna be hard to find a pair of shoes that will fit in these things....might as well just try returning them and look elsewhere for something better  :-\
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: HOOK on July 20, 2010, 01:23:48 AM
try the little beach swimming shoes. they did work, just not as well for me as i had hoped, they worked better for my dad for some reason  :-\


you did remember to take out the hard plastic insert that should have been inside them right ?? my step mom forgot to take hers out and kept asking why they felt like they were cutting into her feet LOL

the only upgrade from these flippers will be the $100 force fins that actually tie around your wading boots and you can actually walk in them (sort of) and im meaning the curved up fins not the other ones on that link i put up. my dad has those and they work  but arent very strong.
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: gofishon on July 20, 2010, 09:14:22 AM
I have fished with a guy who retired his $150 force fins in favour of these flimsy little things he bought on line. They specifically work with a wading boot. They were almost like a flat piece of black plastic that had a couple of straps on them. He said they worked great. He even bought a pair for his 9 year old son and they were inexpensive.  ???
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: FishOn36 on July 20, 2010, 10:35:05 AM
you did remember to take out the hard plastic insert that should have been inside them right ?? my step mom forgot to take hers out and kept asking why they felt like they were cutting into her feet LOL

I did take the inserts out, where can I find those "Force fins" ?

EDIT: would these help at all? http://www.eagleeyecanada.com/Protac-Protac_River_Rat_Hi_Top_Boot_1.html
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: HOOK on July 20, 2010, 11:47:55 AM
those booties were designed for use with flippers !! of course they would help and you also wouldnt have to walk on the ground with your neo's. I had cheapy ones from crappy tire that were not high tops and they slid off sometimes but these ones would be WAY better.
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: gumby on July 20, 2010, 11:50:38 AM
i had the same problem, went and bought wet shoes from the tackle shop, not only do they protect the soles of your waders, makes the flippers fit nicer and snug and comfortable
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: FishOn36 on July 20, 2010, 12:31:15 PM
those booties were designed for use with flippers !! of course they would help and you also wouldnt have to walk on the ground with your neo's. I had cheapy ones from crappy tire that were not high tops and they slid off sometimes but these ones would be WAY better.

Nice, I was looking at those when I was at Army & Navy...will pickup a pair when I go back there!
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: gofishon on July 20, 2010, 02:41:47 PM
Those neo booties are what I use also (bought mine at Bass Pro in Vegas cheap). Not only do they help keep the flippers on and protect the waders when walking, they keep your feet warm ;D.
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: fisher man on July 20, 2010, 05:16:20 PM
You do not need boots the flippers should fit over the neo's.My suggestion is to return them and buy another pair.
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: FishOn36 on July 20, 2010, 10:36:32 PM
You do not need boots the flippers should fit over the neo's.My suggestion is to return them and buy another pair.

They fit over the neos no problem, but the straps slip off after a while unless you crank the hell out of em to where your toes are getting crushed.
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: HOOK on July 21, 2010, 12:57:21 AM
everyone doesnt have the same size feet regarding width. Im a EEE width so in the flippers i always got numb pinky toes regardless of tightness  :( :(

I would try the booties because they will not only protect your neo's from wear but you can also walk around anywhere with them on because they have rubber soles  ;D no need to drag your boots with you in your tube
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: FishOn36 on July 21, 2010, 10:17:58 AM
They also have a little nub on the back of them which helps keep the flipper strap in place so it doesn't slip down/off. I went to the Army & Navy in new west yesterday and they only had em in medium and one in XL which was too big. Gonna check the Langley location today and see if they have any in large. If not, hopefully Wholesale sports has something!
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: HOOK on July 21, 2010, 12:44:24 PM
im pretty sure Michael & Young carries those exact booties as well  ;)
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: cutthroat22 on July 21, 2010, 01:32:22 PM
I used to use a really thick, XXL pair of wool socks over my neoprenes...worked ok and was cheap.
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: FishOn36 on July 21, 2010, 10:07:52 PM
Went to A&N in Langley a few hours ago, they didn't have any river rat booties in size L so I ended up going over Wholesale Sports. Got these sweet looking ones for the same price as the river rats! (39.99) http://www.scuba.com/scuba-gear-13/003450/Deep-See-Atlantic-Medium-Sole-Zipper-Boots.html (http://www.scuba.com/scuba-gear-13/003450/Deep-See-Atlantic-Medium-Sole-Zipper-Boots.html) They had plenty of them in all sizes  ;D Btw, check out the "360 View" link under the picture for a better look  8)
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: HOOK on July 22, 2010, 12:44:03 AM
those booties look pretty sweet !! I hope they work out well for you  ;D trust me i dont miss my float tube/Vboat days. I much rather sit in my pontoon boat and soon to be an actual boat, just have to decide whether to get one for the whole family to fit in or a personal pram  ;D
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: wizard on July 22, 2010, 04:04:40 PM
I've used float tubes for last 14 years, and have never used shoes or booties over my neos.
I guess it's pesonal preferance as my bro used shoes over his...

Be careful pulling the strap to tighten your fin, it breaks easy.  I snapped the rubber strap trying to tighten it last year. Thought I'd have to run into town to get new fins, but opted for rope instead! worked pretty good too. 

btw, if you're not using shoes or booties, try wearing THICK wool socks over top of neos to protect from sand gravel and rubbing, it's more comfortable too.
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: Gerry on July 22, 2010, 06:58:14 PM
Hi Fishon36

Just my two cents on fins. I think the force fins are way too expensive and you have to wear a stiff shoe like runners or river felts to use them.
I use Trophy fins ( about $60 at most fishing stores ) with water shoes I bought at Canadian tire. I put on a sock over my neoprene's to protect the neos from snags at the lake side ( if you tear your neoprene's the day is over before it begins ) and the water shoes protect the neoprene's from stress rub from the fins and when walking about. The water shoes don't slip around like neoprene booties do when your walking.
I really like the trophy fins , they give me plenty of power for little effort , they stay put on my foot and don't fatigue my feet.

Good luck out there.....tight lines

Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: HOOK on July 22, 2010, 09:16:03 PM
who the hell says a leak stops the fishing day !!! I had a pretty good leak in the crotch of waders i borrowed and still managed 5-6 hrs in them in early May water  :o

I had borrowed these for my girl but decided to trade her because mine would be warmer, damn good thing that i did because could you imagine how bad i would have gotten screamed at  :o
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: FishOn36 on July 22, 2010, 11:15:12 PM
who the hell says a leak stops the fishing day !!! I had a pretty good leak in the crotch of waders i borrowed and still managed 5-6 hrs in them in early May water  :o

I had borrowed these for my girl but decided to trade her because mine would be warmer, damn good thing that i did because could you imagine how bad i would have gotten screamed at  :o

Bring out the duck tape   :D
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: HOOK on July 22, 2010, 11:34:01 PM
you dont think i tried that !!! trust me it was a seam leak and couldnt be patched that way  >:(
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: lovetofish on August 01, 2010, 08:47:38 PM
you dont think i tried that !!! trust me it was a seam leak and couldnt be patched that way  >:(

By the time you know there is a crotch leak, you are wet anyway so you just keep fishing. My waders leaked the last 2 times out. After the first time I filled them with water and patched 3 holes. I thought I was good to go >:( wrong. I had missed a seam leak in the crotch and was wet again. More aquaseal  and we will find out next time if I need to buy new waders.
I hear you about the screaming if you had given your daughter leaky waders. I did.  My sister picked up a pair at a garage sale that weren't supposed to leak. My daughter complained after about 20 feet :)
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: HOOK on August 01, 2010, 08:52:40 PM
no no it would have been the girlfriend/wife !!!
Title: Re: Flipper issues
Post by: fishfulthinkin on August 03, 2010, 09:12:39 PM
ya giving them to your girlfriend/wife you'd hear about it even worse... and for a longer period of time. and you can forget about dessert :D