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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: chris gadsden on August 07, 2013, 12:34:10 PM

Title: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: chris gadsden on August 07, 2013, 12:34:10 PM
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/metro/Canadian+fisheries+managers+wait+anxiously+summer+sockeye/8750454/story.html
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: chronic_topdawg on August 07, 2013, 08:15:16 PM
in the box of a truck ;)
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: troutbreath on August 07, 2013, 08:25:52 PM
The migration of sockeye past the Mission hydro acoustic site has decreased
over the past week from a peak of 70,200 on August 1, 2013 to a low of 28,100
on August 5, 2013. Harvest in food, social and ceremonial fisheries conducted
in the lower Fraser River this past weekend would have resulted in some
reduction in the migration of fish past Mission.


http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=152936&ID=recreational
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: rjs on August 07, 2013, 08:35:08 PM
i saw some in 2 big blue totes !
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: TNAngler on August 09, 2013, 10:50:43 AM
Let's see.  70,000 down to 28,000 so just over a 40,000 drop.  FN in the lower Fraser reported 17,600.  So, between unreported FN catches and sportsfishermen illegally keeping sockeye on the long weekend, could that account for over 20,000 fish?

How is this news up there anymore?  Seems like this happens every year.  I figured you guys just hoped the runs would be sufficient to make up for the severe underreporting/illegal catching every year.
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: RiverRunner on August 09, 2013, 05:34:50 PM
Hope they keep it closed...
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: Dennis.t on August 09, 2013, 07:03:20 PM
in the box of a truck ;)
And selling door to door, im hearing...
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: Novabonker on August 09, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
Go look over Bassonator's fence. I understand there's a significant run around there. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: troutbreath on August 09, 2013, 10:28:56 PM
I saw Bassy's ad on Craigslist:

"Wanted Sockeye, must be able to deliver over my fence."
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: shuswapsteve on August 09, 2013, 10:32:40 PM
Some interesting research that some folks might want to read:

http://faculty.forestry.ubc.ca/hinch/Robinson%20et%20al.%202013%20Cons%20Physio.pdf
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: milo on August 10, 2013, 11:01:07 PM
Here's the sockeye:

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/wan/3993614890.html

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/bar/3982065393.html

 ::)
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2013, 02:25:37 PM
Some interesting research that some folks might want to read:

http://faculty.forestry.ubc.ca/hinch/Robinson%20et%20al.%202013%20Cons%20Physio.pdf
That should be required reading for all anglers clamouring for a sockeye opening on the Fraser River this summer.
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: chris gadsden on August 11, 2013, 07:14:41 PM
That should be required reading for all anglers clamouring for a sockeye opening on the Fraser River this summer.
Will not happen.
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: alwaysfishn on August 11, 2013, 08:49:01 PM
That should be required reading for all anglers clamouring for a sockeye opening on the Fraser River this summer.

This is probably a worthwhile read as well and probably a little more relevant as it was conducted on the Fraser. http://www.thinksalmon.com/reports/2011_Fraser_River_Sockeye_CR_Study_(Final_copy).pdf (http://www.thinksalmon.com/reports/2011_Fraser_River_Sockeye_CR_Study_(Final_copy).pdf)
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: dnibbles on August 11, 2013, 09:27:04 PM
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Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: big_fish on August 11, 2013, 09:28:20 PM
This is probably a worthwhile read as well and probably a little more relevant as it was conducted on the Fraser. http://www.thinksalmon.com/reports/2011_Fraser_River_Sockeye_CR_Study_(Final_copy).pdf (http://www.thinksalmon.com/reports/2011_Fraser_River_Sockeye_CR_Study_(Final_copy).pdf)

Not sure if others have told you already, but you need to read the reports others posted first if you want to engage in the discussion.
Title: Re: Where Are The Sockeye?
Post by: shuswapsteve on August 11, 2013, 09:56:25 PM
This is probably a worthwhile read as well and probably a little more relevant as it was conducted on the Fraser. http://www.thinksalmon.com/reports/2011_Fraser_River_Sockeye_CR_Study_(Final_copy).pdf (http://www.thinksalmon.com/reports/2011_Fraser_River_Sockeye_CR_Study_(Final_copy).pdf)

Well, they are both relevant really when you read both of them; however, both look at the issue a little differently.  J.O. Thomas report was primarily concerned with short-term mortality rates.  In Robinson et al 2013, they wanted to mimic a method of assisted ventilation that anglers commonly use.  It was the first assessment of the long term survival of holding a fish into the current prior to release.  Granted it was under experimental conditions, but if you compare it to the report that accompanied the J.O. Thomas report (Donaldson et al 2011; Scott Hinch's group who looked at survival over a longer term.  This includes many who were apart of Robinson et al 2013) they both indicate that either 24 hr recovery in a net pen or ventilation assistance may not promote post release survival of Fraser Sockeye.

http://faculty.forestry.ubc.ca/hinch/Donaldson_etal_2011_FR.pdf