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Title: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: bmynbr on November 21, 2008, 05:18:41 PM
Ya so I went to norrish, and the first hour or so, nothing then up came the fish, and I hooked into like twenty in an hour, landing probably 8 or 9.  A couple of guys just down stream just kept saying another one.  It was fabulous.  So glad I went out.  Kept one nice little one, 5 pounder or so.
Thanks again guys, Dave
Title: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: bmynbr on November 21, 2008, 05:32:21 PM
Oh ya I forgot to mention that the fishing came to a screaming hault when the hatchery guys came down and netted from up above the bridges all the way down past the bridges. 
Dave
Title: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: devon42 on November 21, 2008, 05:32:58 PM
if you dont mind me asking.. what were you using?
Title: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: bmynbr on November 21, 2008, 06:26:21 PM
Pink wool, and 1/0 hooks,
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: Nicole on November 22, 2008, 09:21:01 AM
1/0, 3/0 for coho? those are freaking huge...

You guys should be using size 2 or even size 4 when the water is clear...

I use size 8.

Cheers,
Nicole
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on November 22, 2008, 10:10:44 AM
1/0, 3/0 for coho? those are freaking huge...

You guys should be using size 2 or even size 4 when the water is clear...

I use size 8.

Cheers,
Nicole

I am sure Ghost Fish was being sarcastic. Think green wool and sockeye ;)
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: bmynbr on November 22, 2008, 10:23:47 AM
You know I normally use #2 hooks, but I was tired when I tied my leaders, and made them really short so I use my 1/0
Dave
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: younggun on November 22, 2008, 12:05:49 PM
#6 with 6lb flouro with some white and pink wool
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: HOOK on November 22, 2008, 04:55:11 PM
HA HA green can actually be a really good colour when everyone around is using pinks,oranges and reds  ;) also try using a small tuft of purple with roe  ;)

im with Nicole on the small hooks for coho. biggest i use is size 4 unless there is to many chum around then i will use size 1's. I will start using small fly hooks next year however  ;)
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: Nicole on November 22, 2008, 10:52:15 PM
Whew I was worried for you guys ;)

Cheers,
Nicole
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: FlyFishin Magician on November 22, 2008, 11:57:17 PM
1/0, 3/0 for coho? those are freaking huge...

You guys should be using size 2 or even size 4 when the water is clear...

I use size 8.

Cheers,
Nicole

Yep!  Also consider going to 6 lb fluro.   ;)
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: hue-nut on November 23, 2008, 11:10:34 PM
congrats dave, I fished norrish again today and the only luck I had was a really colored up buck, the fish were there but no takers. As far as hook size, I like to go between size 4 and 1 depending on the water. I actually find that size 4 can be a little small as far as leverage goes when you get a larger coho on. I would like to try a size 6 like some of you recommend, just to see what its like.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: armytruck on November 24, 2008, 08:09:35 AM
I like #1 and #2 s . Even with the chum up at the Check a month ago . Good report bmynbr .
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: Every Day on November 24, 2008, 09:31:17 AM
Was there yesterday on the fly rod. Ended up landing one chum and that was it. Saw around 6-8 coho swimming around but could'nt entice a bite in the crystal clear and very low water. You can see the bottom anywhere you go on the river right now so I'm assuming the fish are gonna be really spooky.

Size 2 hooks are the only size in my vest  ;D
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: younggun on November 24, 2008, 11:07:19 PM
i think taking it eastcoast style would help, small 15gram float, 10lb main, tiny split shot, a #6 with 6lb flouro, and a single actual egg.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: hue-nut on November 25, 2008, 08:28:56 PM
I do agree, its worth a shot at least.  I am having my wife pick up some #6 gamakatsu's and 6 pound ultragreen tonight. Fishing norrish again tomorrow, hoping to get in on some fresh fish with the tide.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: hue-nut on November 25, 2008, 08:30:48 PM
I guess its kinda like light line fishing for Steelhead with a noodle rod, 10 pound main, and 4-6 pound leader. I've never done it personally but have read about it.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: Every Day on November 25, 2008, 09:18:56 PM
I used 6 pound test practically all year last year for Steelhead when the water was super clear. My setup was 12 pound mainline, stub dink float, 3-5 spilt shots, and a 2-3 foot leader using roe or small colorados. I find the longer leader helps when the water is super clear because then the fish dont get spooked by the weights, especially for Steelhead. Now I know what some of you are going to be thinking about the longer leader  ::)  If you do think that, tell me the last time you flossed a fish with a colorado, especially a Steelhead (when there arn't very many to floss) and then get back to me  ::)
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: Coho Cody on November 25, 2008, 09:25:14 PM
I used 6 pound test practically all year last year for Steelhead when the water was super clear. My setup was 12 pound mainline, stub dink float, 3-5 spilt shots, and a 2-3 foot leader using roe or small colorados. I find the longer leader helps when the water is super clear because then the fish dont get spooked by the weights, especially for Steelhead. Now I know what some of you are going to be thinking about the longer leader  ::)  If you do think that, tell me the last time you flossed a fish with a colorado, especially a Steelhead (when there arn't very many to floss) and then get back to me  ::)

It is very possible to still floss with a blade ::), but I know what you mean about the blades and long leaders. When fishing steelhead, I too like using 2-3ft of leader when fishing blades. Size 3 flat silver in clear conditions are my fav.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 25, 2008, 09:30:52 PM
If you do think that, tell me the last time you flossed a fish with a colorado, especially a Steelhead (when there arn't very many to floss) and then get back to me  ::)

My brother got one five years ago from the Crossing on New Year's Eve.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: Every Day on November 25, 2008, 10:08:30 PM
And how are you determining that these fish are flossed on the blades  ???  Look at the other topic where the fish have been hooked outside the mouth trying to hit the spoon... I dont think you can floss with a blade because the blade will get in the way of the hook as the line is going through the mouth and should just bounce off....

Anyhow I highly doubt any of my fish were flossed... just saying that light gear is the best way to go and for extra spooky fish use a long leader so that the weights are not right in their face. And it is possible to use 6 pound test easily on a salmon rod, you dont need a noodle stick.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 25, 2008, 10:30:19 PM
And how are you determining that these fish are flossed on the blades  ??? 

Does the hook on the side give you a clue ? Sorry Everyday you must be inexperienced or very naive to think that fish cannot be flossed by blades.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: Sir Snag-A-Lot on November 26, 2008, 09:13:27 AM
For those of you using 6lb fluro, how are you attaching your leader to your mainline.  What type of knots, swivels, etc.  I have been using 8lb maxima fluro and have lost way too many fish and blades this year due to the line snapping at the knot.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: Coho Cody on November 26, 2008, 09:39:32 AM
For those of you using 6lb fluro, how are you attaching your leader to your mainline.  What type of knots, swivels, etc.  I have been using 8lb maxima fluro and have lost way too many fish and blades this year due to the line snapping at the knot.

Size 10 barrel swivel, clinch knot.

When fishing a blade, it is a waste to use fluorocarbon leader. I just use 10lb ultragreen.

I have also found that the maxima fluoro to be pretty crappy. Although, have you been lubricating your knots? When using fluro, i use P-Line CFX. 100% fluorocarbon and super strong.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: BIG T on November 26, 2008, 11:15:25 AM
For those of you using 6lb fluro, how are you attaching your leader to your mainline.  What type of knots, swivels, etc.  I have been using 8lb maxima fluro and have lost way too many fish and blades this year due to the line snapping at the knot.

Make sure that you don't put on your drag too tight and try to horse your fish in when you are using a lighter leader.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: BwiBwi on November 26, 2008, 11:19:08 AM
When fishing with light gear  also try your best not to exhaust the fish and make it hard to revive.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: EZ_Rolling on November 26, 2008, 12:06:01 PM
When fishing with flouro as I have been now for the last 2 years I have switched to the Palomar knot and have had much better success than when using a clinch knot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiDDdW22X9k
 ;D
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: HOOK on November 26, 2008, 12:24:40 PM
however the Palomer knot doesnt work if you already have something else tied to what your tying. I normally use this knot also but clinch knot the other side. I do however palomer my blades on  ;D
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: EZ_Rolling on November 26, 2008, 12:43:59 PM
correct you are HOOK I was assuming he was using mono for his main line and on that side of the swivel yes I also use the clinch but the palomar works best for the fluro side/ leader.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: hue-nut on November 26, 2008, 06:46:15 PM
Fished norrish today with a very light setup, 6 pound leader, colorado #2 blade, and  a tiny little split shot (no float). I sucessfully broke a few chum off, haha it was quite fun actually. I really like the feel of the light setup, as far as playing the fish quick, thats not gonna be happening on a  6 pound leader, it just takes some time to actually land the fish unless we are talking about a 4-6 pound coho. It's funny cause it seems that you are damned if you do damned if you don't, heavy gear and you are a meat head that just wants to muscle the fish in, light gear and you are just torturing fish by playing them too long. Anyways I had a great day, there are still some clean coho kicking around just were not biting today.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: testo84 on November 26, 2008, 07:06:07 PM
Fished norrish today with a very light setup, 6 pound leader, colorado #2 blade, and  a tiny little split shot (no float). I sucessfully broke a few chum off, haha it was quite fun actually. I really like the feel of the light setup, as far as playing the fish quick, thats not gonna be happening on a  6 pound leader, it just takes some time to actually land the fish unless we are talking about a 4-6 pound coho. It's funny cause it seems that you are damned if you do damned if you don't, heavy gear and you are a meat head that just wants to muscle the fish in, light gear and you are just torturing fish by playing them too long. Anyways I had a great day, there are still some clean coho kicking around just were not biting today.

and how deep was the water that you were casting your blade into ? so I can learn that skill with split shot and blades only
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: younggun on November 26, 2008, 07:36:35 PM
i now after the past salmon season, realized that if u cant land it on 8 or 10lb, its huge. was busted off by a few 35lb silver whites, and even on 10lb u had a decent chance of landing them, an average 10-14lb steelhead shouldn't be a huge problem. I've landed a couple big fish on 6lb. but it wasn't fun. (using almost a noodle rod, bending it 2 the cork, 6lb maxima is strong!)
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: hue-nut on November 26, 2008, 11:12:49 PM
I was casting into probably 8 feet of water which on the tailout was about 1 foot deep. It's a nice set up for a super sensitive feel. The really slow water, I just fished with a teeny tiny split shot right above the knot for the blade, so it gave the blade itself a little more weight for casting. all in all kinda fun experimenting. In regards to leader strength, it does depend on the size of the fish but also the water that you are fishing, I've had to take a few coho down river a hundred feet or so cause I could not keep them out of the fast water without breaking off.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: younggun on November 26, 2008, 11:27:08 PM
6lb u shouldn't have a huge problem with a coho in the dead water.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: Sir Snag-A-Lot on November 27, 2008, 11:52:26 AM
Thanks for the tips with respect to knots.  I can't recall ever having broken off a coho using 8lb ultragreen (my standard), but I fished a fair bit in low clear conditions with the 10lb maxima fluoro and had several break-offs right at the knot, even while tailing a coloured fish that I was releasing.  Maybe its just crappy line, but I will try the suggestions.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: hue-nut on November 27, 2008, 05:13:36 PM
6lb u shouldn't have a huge problem with a coho in the dead water.
typically, but I have been getting many of my fish at Norrish in a very small hole with very fast water on the top and bottom end, it can be difficult to land them in that small pool.
Title: Re: Norrish Creek, November 21st 2008
Post by: Grub on December 01, 2008, 10:06:03 PM
I use hooks so small I cant actually see them. I also use  a microscopic rod and reel for coho. 1/0 hooks are simply wrong.