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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: clarki on November 25, 2023, 07:56:04 AM

Title: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: clarki on November 25, 2023, 07:56:04 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/NqKs8Xz.jpg)
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: coastangler on November 25, 2023, 10:00:54 AM
On that topic, one of the best Pacific Salmon fishing Youtube videos ever in my opinion which unfortunately didn't get the attention it deserves in terms of number of views.... Enjoy


Vampire Tigers by Brad Knowles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKZ740eRPyc
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: RalphH on November 25, 2023, 12:02:37 PM
"img width=768 height=1024]https://i.imgur.com/NqKs8Xz.jpg[/img]"


this doesn't open... at least for me.
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: coastangler on November 25, 2023, 12:06:39 PM

this doesn't open... at least for me.

Odd - it works for me and renders correctly in the forum. Did you tried opening the URL directly? https://i.imgur.com/NqKs8Xz.jpg
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: milo on November 25, 2023, 02:57:52 PM
Fly fishing for Squamish river chum used to be the highlight of my salmon fishing season. As soon as I'd wrap up mu coho pursuits, hardly a weekend day in November would go by without me casting some purple and orange creations to willing chum.
Alas, with the numbers being so low, targetting chum this season, even if it is C&R only, is not allowed.
Hopefully, this magnificent West Coast fishery will rebound in coming years, and I'll again have the pleasure of targetting those toothy monsters, which, pound per pound, are the best fighters in the salmon world. And keeping a few for the smoker would be an excellent bonus.
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: RalphH on November 25, 2023, 03:58:05 PM
Odd - it works for me and renders correctly in the forum. Did you tried opening the URL directly? https://i.imgur.com/NqKs8Xz.jpg

nope  I tried opening Imgur & I get this message -

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Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: psd1179 on November 25, 2023, 05:56:05 PM
cannot interest me to fish chum salmon.
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: milo on November 26, 2023, 12:24:26 PM
cannot interest me to fish chum salmon.

Are you bragging or complaining?
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: bigsnag on November 26, 2023, 12:25:17 PM
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Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: bigsnag on November 26, 2023, 12:27:46 PM

this doesn't open... at least for me.
Works fine for me.
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: bigsnag on November 26, 2023, 12:45:14 PM
Chums take flies well.  Unfortunately too many people chose to fish where they are stacked up and as a result a lot of them are foul hooked.
I once watched a regular poster here and his friends foul hooked over twenty chums...and not realizing that they really shouldn't be fishing there.
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: RalphH on November 26, 2023, 01:17:58 PM
Works fine for me.

Of two laptops here it works on one but not the other. Don't know why. Both laptops go through a VPN - same server. Could be how imgur deals with calls from the same IP.
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: coastangler on November 26, 2023, 06:03:35 PM
Chums take flies well.  Unfortunately too many people chose to fish where they are stacked up and as a result a lot of them are foul hooked.

There is also the impression that fly tackle companies and stores have created that "If you are not getting bites, it means you are not getting down" which means that you need to have every possible sink tip available and keep trying it until you snag a fish. Fly fishsing for pinks or chums with heavy tips usually means snagging them. After snagging a fish, you will probably spook most fish around, so the attempts to catch fish by "getting down" are a waste of time. Instead, use a slow or intermediate tip and that way you know that the tug is a geniune bite. Salmon can see the flies quite easily and when aggressive, they won't mind going for it, even if it's not right by its mouth. If you keep casting and casting to a school of fish and you are not getting anything, well, try something else or go somewhere else, but don't go heavier because the next cast will most likely be a foul hooked fish

I get that some rare cases like northern BC Chinook on the fly may require T-14 or even T-21 tips but in my opinion, that's about it. 90% of the salmon fly fishing in the lower mainland can be achieved with slow and intermediate tips. Need to sink deeper? Adjust your presentation (i.e. downstream mend, cast further upstream angle, etc) but don't be fooled into buying the expensive collectibles that sink tips are becoming!

PS: Rare cases like the deep pools at the Cap may require heavier lines, but again, not needed for pinks and chums that usually stack up in big numbers
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: Kever on November 27, 2023, 08:49:27 AM
Do they typically bite on the swing or the strip?  I caught 10x more pinks stripping than swinging this summer.
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: bigblockfox on November 27, 2023, 09:14:16 AM
i dont mind targeting them (when legal to do so), but they have to look like this. not really into zombie chum.

(https://i.imgur.com/AC5OCHA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xqjkctH.jpg)

Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: RalphH on November 27, 2023, 11:11:59 AM
Those are nice bright fish. I have caught the odd one where the bars aren't even visible

Fly fishing for Squamish river chum used to be the highlight of my salmon fishing season. As soon as I'd wrap up mu coho pursuits, hardly a weekend day in November would go by without me casting some purple and orange creations to willing chum.
Alas, with the numbers being so low, targetting chum this season, even if it is C&R only, is not allowed.
Hopefully, this magnificent West Coast fishery will rebound in coming years, and I'll again have the pleasure of targetting those toothy monsters, which, pound per pound, are the best fighters in the salmon world. And keeping a few for the smoker would be an excellent bonus.

It must be 10+ years since that ended. Actually landing 30+ fish in 7 or 8 hours was pretty easy, excepting the stress on the arms. I don't think I ever saw anything like the mass of chum that came into the Harrison around Nov 10th. On that broad clear river it looked like one could walk across if the fish just held still. I caught one chum I can never forget. I had on a large Mickey Finn and this fish nailed it. It took off across the river pulling out a lot of backing (I usually have 150+ yards of 30lb dacron). I pulled back to slow the run and the line rose to the surface draped with waterlogged sticks some as long as a yard. I landed that fish, a huge male that must have been 15lbs+ and colored like a "real fire chicken" as some called them. It was hooked well back in the mouth.  I had experiences like that on the Squamish as well but never with a fish that big.

Makes me think it's been so long that we may never see those kinds of returns again. Something seems to have changed with chum returns. It also makes me think of all the fishing spots that i have lost in the last 10 years due to development, no trespassing signs & fences, flood remediation and in river gravel mining . Some beautiful spots have been rip rapped with boulders the size of cars and the removal of gravel bars have turned gentle spots into rapid and deep flows. Kind of sad to see as I enter what is likely the last 10 years of my fishing life.

BTW - problem I had seeing images was with Imgur blocking the VPN server. Turning it off or switching to another VPN fixed it. off that a server in a European country is ok but not one in Canada!
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: coastangler on November 27, 2023, 01:36:49 PM
Do they typically bite on the swing or the strip?  I caught 10x more pinks stripping than swinging this summer.

I caught them on both methods, I guess it depends on the water type and where the fish sit for one method or another. When stripping it does become more important to not go too heavy as otherwise it's almost a guaranteed snag, so if you were catching stacked fish on the strip it means you were doing the right thing  ;)



BTW - problem I had seeing images was with Imgur blocking the VPN server. Turning it off or switching to another VPN fixed it. off that a server in a European country is ok but not one in Canada!

Off topic, but if you are into a free, reliable VPN go with CloudFlare WARP. These guys have revolutionized internet security and it also works seamlessly for mobile. Always makes me nervous when using online banking, CRA website, etc and potentially being vulnerable to MITM attacks (man-in-the-middle). It won't allow you to switch location though


Agreed with the Squamish chum fishery being another level and hard to forget. I haven't targeted Chum in the Squamish for a few years now as it's been closed for a while now but I do miss those energetic runs. Here is the freshest one I've ever caught there

(https://i.imgur.com/pEojmgX.png)


Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: psd1179 on November 27, 2023, 05:25:54 PM
Chum can be bright when they reach slough. they fight ok. but the fish are not very bity and they always stack at some spot. Really cannot tell if it is snagged or the fish bite

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Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: roeman on November 27, 2023, 06:21:52 PM
Are you bragging or complaining?
What a looser comment...
Its called a statement..
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: Darko on November 27, 2023, 07:14:58 PM
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Agreed with the Squamish chum fishery being another level and hard to forget. I haven't targeted Chum in the Squamish for a few years now as it's been closed for a while now but I do miss those energetic runs. Here is the freshest one I've ever caught there

(https://i.imgur.com/pEojmgX.png)

Impressive! That's a beautiful chum.
Title: Re: Tigerfish of the Pacific Coast
Post by: Silex-user on December 07, 2023, 05:56:24 PM
Honestly, I used to hated those saber-tooth tiger salmons. I got spoiled catching lots of cohos back in good old days. Now they are my second favorite fish to catch in river fishing after steelheads. Catching chrome fresh chum pound for pound they are the hardest fishing around.



Silex-user