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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rodney on October 07, 2016, 11:04:37 AM
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The Tidal Fraser River (downstream from Mission's CPR Bridge) is open for coho salmon fishing on October 8th, 2016. Once again, this thread is designed to let members to provide updates on the fishing and water condition throughout the season.
Regulations
Please note that coho salmon fishing is closed and a bait ban for salmon fishing is in effect until October 7th.
Starting on October 8th, coho salmon fishing opens and bait will once again be allowed for salmon fishing. You can use roe, krill, shrimp, ghost shrimp, dew worm and any natural bait or artificially scented bait for salmon. The daily quota for hatchery marked coho salmon is two fish per day during this opening. Please make sure you identify your fish correctly in the water first by using a catch and release net (http://www.gibbsdelta.com/catch-release-trout-nets). All wild coho salmon have to be released with care.
Here is the fishery notice (http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=187989&ID=all) for detailed opening information.
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2013/131001-2_zpsd55a367c.jpg)
Wild coho salmon (presence of the adipose fin)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2013/131001-1_zps911559f0.jpg)
Hatchery-marked coho salmon (absence of the adipose fin)
For trout and char, the daily quota is two hatchery marked fish. You will find some hatchery marked cutthroat trout (absence of the adipose fin). All bull trout are wild. Please release all wild cutthroat and bull trout carefully.
Please make sure you have a valid saltwater fishing licence, and a salmon stamp if you intend to keep salmon.
This thread is started so everyone can post updates throughout the season. Please do not ask for updates.
Good luck!
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Fished from 07:00-12:00 (low slack to incoming) Langley area with Roe. fair amount of hits, didn't bring any in today..... only saw 2 caught from a limited viewpoint I admit.... water was very dirty - 6"-8" within casting distance.... bite turned off as soon as the nets showed up.... holy monsoon, Batman!
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fished annacis island from 730 till 2. started slow but picked up around noon. caught 10 between us 5. 3 or 4 jacks and the rest adults. all small in the 4lb range. water was prob 2 feet vis around the high tide.
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lots of commercial boats out there today
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Out again around Langley 07:00-12:30 - fed the (bullheads? rocky mountain whitefish? pike minnows?) about 93 pounds of roe between two of us. One hatch to the beach. Slow day hit wise as well....
Interesting though, once the tide started to come in, the little guys laid off almost completely. All morning, took all of 15 seconds for them to start stripping the bait loops.... salinity in the water rising along with the incoming tide maybe??
One netter and a few sturgeon boats out pounding it hard all day too.... (saw one sturgeon charter I think bring one to the beach; too far away to see the fish)
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Fished the Fraser right at the Coquitlam River mouth earlier this morning for about an hour and half. No success for me but a couple others managed to land some chum.
Question. The boat launch on the west side of the Port Mann bridge, is that open 24/7 and anyone know the cost? I would like to launch my tinnie from there then anchor and fish near the mouth of the Coquitlam as others were doing today.
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93 lbs. of roe ? :o . Maybe do up roe bags , might last you longer . Expensive day that's for sure .
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Fished in the Coquitlam area downstream of the Portmann bridge from 2:45-7:15 on high slack through first few hours of outgoing tide. Had a few good bites (on roe) in between the little bites from bullheads at last light but that was it. Saw only 1 chum landed on a spoon and heard of a few more plus a couple of wild coho caught in the morning when tide was coming in. Water vis was excellent..close to 2 ft.
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93 pounds? I assume that is a typo cause that is about 40kg, but it got me thinking... Does the 1kg max apply in tidal waters? I don't even usually carry that much so I have never looked into it and can't find anything on the DFO website.
Back to the topic at hand, fished the Langley area. Landed a small sturgeon, lost something else with a poor hookset and that was it. Clarity was a lot better than I anticipated.
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93 pounds? I assume that is a typo cause that is about 40kg, but it got me thinking... Does the 1kg max apply in tidal waters? I don't even usually carry that much so I have never looked into it and can't find anything on the DFO website.
Back to the topic at hand, fished the Langley area. Landed a small sturgeon, lost something else with a poor hookset and that was it. Clarity was a lot better than I anticipated.
:o Yes, 93 [SARCASTIC] pounds of roe. They were hungry little buggers...... ::)
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93 lbs sounds like a lifetime's supply of bait..lol. I've started using roe bags this season and my roe now lasts maybe 10x longer even after all the pecking from coarse fish. For sure it saves a lot of bait and $$.
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FWIW, I like the way roe milks, so if I want to make it last longer and I want more of a profile I'll use a single egg sac and half the amount of roe (or less) at the same time. Usually I get a neat colour combination between the two.
That way, you'll only need 46.5 lbs. of roe! ;) ::)
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Fished the low slack today just up from Mission. Spent one hour chucking roe to no avail. Then tied on a favourite spoon and this time the fish gods finally smiled at me with a beautiful wild buck of at least 15lbs, easily my best fish in a long time. Released him carefully and called it a the day.
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Fished Thanksgiving Monday on incoming through first few hours of outgoing at Annacis. Not too hot for us with only 2 wild coho (1 jack, 1 ~3 lb buck) landed and many missed hits. Most of the takes were soft, hesitant nibbles, very hard to detect, though there were some very aggressive hits. Others had more luck, with a mix of both wild and hatchery fish brought to shore...all on the small side, 4 lbs or less. Many jumpers but few takers. Saw quite a few fishers casting jigs for chum, but most were unsuccessful. Water vis was around 1-1.5 ft at high tide.
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Fished Thanksgiving Monday on incoming through first few hours of outgoing at Annacis. Not too hot for us with only 2 wild coho (1 jack, 1 ~3 lb buck) landed and many missed hits. Most of the takes were soft, hesitant nibbles, very hard to detect, though there were some very aggressive hits. Others had more luck, with a mix of both wild and hatchery fish brought to shore...all on the small side, 4 lbs or less. Many jumpers but few takers. Saw quite a few fishers casting jigs for chum, but most were unsuccessful. Water vis was around 1-1.5 ft at high tide.
make em 4 wild ones :) +1 doe and buck about 5lbs
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make em 4 wild ones :) +1 doe and buck about 5lbs
They're getting bigger! :D ;)
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Been fishing North Arm the last few days.
Monday saw lots of big fish come out of the water, most of them going back in again.
Yesterday and today quite slow, I caught 2 wild jacks so came away empty handed (and minus one rod which snapped on a cast), one hatchery jack the day before.
Still had fun today scrambling up and down the bank netting other people's catches.
The guy next to me managed to extract two very nice hatchery coho.
It was nice to at least see some fish, and it's great to see that pretty much everyone is sticking to the regs and putting the wild ones back, which seem to be in much greater abundance than the hatchery fish...
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In the lower tidal Fraser to people try to time the tides or does it not really matter?
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Doesn't really matter. Buddy hit 12 today on the out going tide. I fished the incoming tide and hit one. Really don't think it matters.
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It can vary by the specific bar. Some do well on the top of the flood and others on the ebb. Either way the hour or two between the turns is the time to be there.
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Today was by far the best day in a few years for us, lots of fish 3-9 lbs fresh chum roe was the ticket.
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Buddy hit 12 today on the out going tide. I fished the incoming tide and hit one.
Hmm getting outfished 12-to-1 sounds like it made a huge difference...
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In the lower tidal Fraser to people try to time the tides or does it not really matter?
IMO, you want to catch the last three hours of incoming tide and the first three hours of outgoing tide if you want to be successful. Fish come in with the incoming so you are likely to intercept fish, but more often than not they will zip right by without biting. When the tide peaks and the current is still, I find the bites will always cease especially if you are using bait. The scent is not being carried around. Once the tide starts going out, often the bites are way more frequent. A couple of hypotheses, fish are dropping back with the tide, some fish are still coming up with the last bit of the incoming tide but just moving more slowly, and lastly the scent from the bait is being carried downstream with the current. I think most of my good hours have occurred during the first, second or even third hour of outgoing tide actually. The height of the tidal also has an influence. If you have a small outgoing tide (1 to 4 feet), current is a lot slower and you are more likely to get into fish. I really dislike fishing big tides in the Tidal Fraser, unless I am focusing at a spot where tidal current is minimal.
So, tide does make a huge difference sometimes. ;)
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How is the colour of the river ?
Did it colour up the last couple days at all?
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IMO, you want to catch the last three hours of incoming tide and the first three hours of outgoing tide if you want to be successful. Fish come in with the incoming so you are likely to intercept fish, but more often than not they will zip right by without biting. When the tide peaks and the current is still, I find the bites will always cease especially if you are using bait. The scent is not being carried around. Once the tide starts going out, often the bites are way more frequent. A couple of hypotheses, fish are dropping back with the tide, some fish are still coming up with the last bit of the incoming tide but just moving more slowly, and lastly the scent from the bait is being carried downstream with the current. I think most of my good hours have occurred during the first, second or even third hour of outgoing tide actually. The height of the tidal also has an influence. If you have a small outgoing tide (1 to 4 feet), current is a lot slower and you are more likely to get into fish. I really dislike fishing big tides in the Tidal Fraser, unless I am focusing at a spot where tidal current is minimal.
So, tide does make a huge difference sometimes. ;)
Think it's time to update your tidal fraser fishing video . I have been fishing the first 2 hrs before and 2 hrs after the peak high tide like you recommend to your older tidal video . what do you mean by the first three hours of he outgoing tide ? the first three hours after the low tide time ?
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Think it's time to update your tidal fraser fishing video . I have been fishing the first 2 hrs before and 2 hrs after the peak high tide like you recommend to your older tidal video . what do you mean by the first three hours of he outgoing tide ? the first three hours after the low tide time ?
Don't just listen to 1 opinion and use it as a bible. Every location is different and every tide is different. Vary your timing at your location to see for yourself in order to get a better understanding of your fishing spot.
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Don't just listen to 1 opinion and use it as a bible. Every location is different and every tide is different. Vary your timing at your location to see for yourself in order to get a better understanding of your fishing spot.
thanks fic .
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How is the colour of the river ?
Did it colour up the last couple days at all?
Not where I was at earlier today, off Coquitlam. Visibility was still around 2 ft. or so at high tide. Lots of fish, mostly chum and some coho, moving through near shore, but no takers on roe other than coarse fish :-\. They can be seen jumping and porpoising. One guy landed a chum on a spinner and that was it. With such good water clarity, should have switched to lures instead
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Think it's time to update your tidal fraser fishing video . I have been fishing the first 2 hrs before and 2 hrs after the peak high tide like you recommend to your older tidal video .
Why should he update it? Rod's quote below is literally almost the exact same thing except he's changed 2 hours to 3 hours - ie. just fish more! LOL
IMO, you want to catch the last three hours of incoming tide and the first three hours of outgoing tide if you want to be successful.
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what do you mean by the first three hours of he outgoing tide ? the first three hours after the low tide time ?
It means the first three hours of the outgoing tide... starting from just after the tide peaks.
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Not where I was at earlier today, off Coquitlam. Visibility was still around 2 ft. or so at high tide. Lots of fish, mostly chum and some coho, moving through near shore, but no takers on roe other than coarse fish :-\. They can be seen jumping and porpoising. One guy landed a chum on a spinner and that was it. With such good water clarity, should have switched to lures instead
Thanks for the info. :)
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[Oct 16] Fished from first light (07:00 - incoming) until around 15:00 (outgoing) in the Langley area. 9 to shore between the two of us with 3 or 4 more long line releases. Fishing roe (no fire colors) with single hook... some good fish, a couple in the 3-4 lb range most in the 5-6 and a couple that had to be 7ish.
Fishing was fairly consistent throughout the day, bringing in one every hour +/- until outgoing when it picked up. Mostly wilds during the day, mostly hatchies in the outgoing afternoon.
From what we saw of other fishermen (our view was blocked for the most part), their day was similar. Spoke with one other couple (thanks for the jump start!) and they brought in 6 or 7 for the day.
Good day, made up for some of the slower ones last week!
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Thanks for the info. Were you fishing in the lower end? Thowe chumlies still look clean.
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Hit the incoming Langley area this morning for 3 hours (9-12), not a sniff. Not ideal time to fish but I'll take what I can get before a shift! A few others in the area, I saw 1 caught, not a lot of people jumping to their rods for hits... Vis about 3 feet or so.
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Fished Annacis for a couple of hours after work (4:30-6:30)..nothing for me either other than a few nibbles. Apparently I missed most of the action that happened the hour before I arrived..the rain started too ::)- buddy who came earlier had 1 hatch already in the bag. Another also had another hatch and landed a couple of wild fish. Lots of risers and jumpers as the tide came up. Visibility was about a foot and degraded slightly when the rains came.
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Fished once earlier this week after hearing some hot reports. There were quite a few fish in the 3 to 5lb range being caught during the outgoing tide, some were hatchery fish. Lures hardly produced while roe was the ticket. Here's a beautiful wild one that was released after a quick pic. Water clarity was ok, could be better for lures but it's good enough.
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2016/161019-1_zpsyiziojwh.jpg)
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Beautiful ....
Nice fish too ;)
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probably wild too!
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Richmond - Delta Area.
Fished in Afternoon ... Rain cleared up and was beautiful day.
Amazing to see so many fish moving on such a Big River.
nice fish, you on the river road side (delta) or richmond side?
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probably wild too!
Don't you see the adipose? Oh... never mind.
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Up in the Mission/Abby area today. Fished the incomming tide as the outgoing this day was very late. As the tide got bigger the clarity degraded down to 6 inches. Even roe wasnt producing as I was switching back and forth between bar fishing and spincasting.
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I' ve out the last 2 days with some results:
Thursday 2 chum on a spinner and a croc on the North Arm in Burnaby - right in the 2 hours around high slack. Water clarity was pretty good. I was the only person fishing
Out past Langley at Glen Valley Park on Friday. Fished 4 hours and the bight was on after high slack for about an hours. I got a wild coho while I saw 2 coho (1 hatch) landed, 1 lost and 1 chum doe taken between 5 or 6 anglers. All on roe. Water clarity was ok. Not a lot of fish rising. Sturgeon guys (in boats) landed a couple of monsters.
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For all the bar experts out there, how long do you hope the coho fishery season will be productive for?
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What lb test is everyone using for main line and leader?
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I only cast spoons when it comes to fishing at the Fraser river. When people mention fishing with roe, is this like float fishing at the Vedder? Thanks
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Some use floats, but most fish on bottom. Some use a 3 way swivel with a longer line going to the weight, to keep the roe just off bottom.
Some just use a 2 way swivel with a 12-20" leader and just let it do its thing on the bottom.
I think fishing on the bottom is the more productive technique.
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Some use floats, but most fish on bottom. Some use a 3 way swivel with a longer line going to the weight, to keep the roe just off bottom.
Some just use a 2 way swivel with a 12-20" leader and just let it do its thing on the bottom.
I think fishing on the bottom is the more productive technique.
Thank you for your answer.
Pardon my ignorance, regarding a 3 way swivel, may I know the weight you generally use, the length of the line with weight, and the length of the leader. I want to try this rig tomorrow.
Thanks
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I've been using 20lb mainline and 12lb leader.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJTN77u2EQ
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/articles/river_fishing/bar_fishing_made_simple.html
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Out yesterday Glenn Valley area from noon (incoming) until around 5:30 (outgoing). Picked up a jack hatch and wild around 6 lbs just as the tide started going out. Both on hoe roe from last week - salted lightly and boraxed when caught. Clarity was pretty good until a storm blew through and the tide changed around the same time - muddied up pretty good.
Out today same place, same bait from 1 (end of incoming) until 5 (outgoing) only a few hits and lost one to a long line release.
Clarity today was better than yesterday. Maybe 8-12".
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Thank you for your answer.
Pardon my ignorance, regarding a 3 way swivel, may I know the weight you generally use, the length of the line with weight, and the length of the leader. I want to try this rig tomorrow.
Thanks
Doesn't really matter IMO. Say 2 feet to the weight and 12-15" to the hook. I stopped using this method and started fishing right on bottom after reeling in to many times and seeing it all tangled up together.
You could also use a bar rig to keep everything straightened out and use high test mono for your leader like we do in upper Fraser for same reasons.
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What lb test is everyone using for main line and leader?
20 lb braid, 12 lb mono leader
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Out today with a buddy at Glen Valley in Langley and later in Mission upstream of Mission bridge. We fished a couple of hours at Langley in the morning at low tide, then the rest of the day in Mission from incoming to high slack. We had our best day so far with 5 hatch (4 in Langley with 2 in first 2 casts!), 1 wild, and a chum landed. Lost another coho off Mission when leader snapped off. Highlights of the trip were a red spring that was seen caught in the tidal and a 7 ft sturgeon landed off Mission by boaters.
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This is how productive our day was.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BL5DxhMBfcn/?taken-by=fishing_with_rod
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Got skunked again eh Rodney ? ;)
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We got fish, just had a lot of spare time in between. ;)
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What lb test is everyone using for main line and leader?
12lb braid 8lb leader
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Fished north arm from 11:00 to 4:30 with only one solid bite (when i was talking on my phone). One small wild coho landed next to me. Saw a total of one fish roll in front of me. Sloooooooow. Talked to the guy next to me and he told me he was into fish day before and saw many more surfacing. Should of been there yesterday! :-\
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I lost a coho jack in the North Arm today and a guy I spoke with landed a couple hatchery on the other side of the norm arm on Thursday . They are moving through.With the gentile tides, it makes me wonder whether outgoing or incoming tides is better.
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Fished a bar below New West for the entire day from low to high and to low again. Not a bite for me even with the best bait, freshly cured chum roe. Only saw one wild the entire day. Fish were blowing by. They just didn't bite anything, at least the adult coho. Only a few jacks for for the entire bar for the entire day. Not a good day at all. Funny a week ago I couldn't keep them off the hook. Puzzling the fish were there again with risers all over but just don't bite much this time.
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Fished a bar below New West for the entire day from low to high and to low again. Not a bite for me even with the best bait, freshly cured chum roe. Only saw one wild the entire day. Fish were blowing by. They just didn't bite anything, at least the adult coho. Only a few jacks for for the entire bar for the entire day. Not a good day at all. Funny a week ago I couldn't keep them off the hook. Puzzling the fish were there again with risers all over but just don't bite much this time.
maybe switch it up.and throw some spoons.
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Did that, switching a few spoons and still no coho wanted to touch them. LOL.
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saw LOTS of nets on my commute home under the alex fraser :-\
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I had a sinking feeling as I drove along the perimeter road and River Road in Langley on my way out to see hundreds of boats all along the Fraser up through to Mission...
Ive been barfishing tonnes with great success but today was absolutely dead. No rises nothing.
After seeing all the boats, however, I was not surprised...
Got to see lots of boats roughly tossing back unwanted fish which were likely coho
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Next opening is on Thursday, so plan your outing accordingly.
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=188957&ID=all
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How long after a commercial opening do you need to wait in order for fishing to become plausible again?
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And there's another opening tomorrow. :-\
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Few days late but Oct 23 (last sunday) out in Glenn Valley area, slow fishing, a couple wilds in on high slack/outgoing. B U T nice to see a CO (she said she was from Chilliwack, down with another CO from the area) came by, checking everyone. First time I've been checked in the area in years!
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Lol Blair
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Well, that's pretty cool!
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I was out in Surrey again today. Fished first light to 5pm.
Landed two Coho jacks (one hatch, one wild), lost two big Coho during the fight, and missed lots of good bites!
Had Coho/Chum roe tandem rigged as usual.. they ignored the Coho roe all day!
Most of the action was in the morning from 7am until noon.
There were boats gill netting the river again all day today.. and spoke to regulars who said yesterday was the same. Makes you wonder sometimes..
Also had the weirdest thing happen today.. It's about 4pm and pretty high tide and I finally got a bite after about an hour. I set the hook and a big Sturgeon jumps out of the water and snaps my leader! It broke my bottom hook off. There was still roe on my top hook so I just cast it out again into a different spot. 1 minute later I get hits again and set the hook.. Sturgeon on! Half hour later with 12lb mono leader I landed a 6 foot Sturgeon! Hahaha! I target these things sometimes and never get anything over 4 feet.. go figure XD
Was by myself when I landed the Sturgeon but I managed a quick pic...
(http://s11.postimg.org/veau1nv33/2016_10_26_16_10_50.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/veau1nv33/)
Sounds like you had a fun day!
That's an awesome sturgeon too!
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This is so cool, you never know what can come out of the depths of this glorious river!
BTW imagine a CO walking in midway through the fight, ooops :D
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This is so cool, you never know what can come out of the depths of this glorious river!
BTW imagine a CO walking in midway through the fight, ooops :D
Why do you say that?
You do not need a sturgeon tag in tidal waters.
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Why do you say that?
You do not need a sturgeon tag in tidal waters.
was just trying go make a joke, I've never fished for dinos before so I'm not familiar with regs, I'd love to give it a shot one day though. Sorry if someone's offended.
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was just trying go make a joke, I've never fished for dinos before so I'm not familiar with regs, I'd love to give it a shot one day though. Sorry if someone's offended.
LOL offended? Let's not jump off the bridge here.
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sigh.... whatever
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was just trying go make a joke, I've never fished for dinos before so I'm not familiar with regs, I'd love to give it a shot one day though. Sorry if someone's offended.
Everyone has to try Sturgeon fishing at least once.
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Fished a Surrey area bar from first light till noon before the incoming tide. Lots of action at first light and then just the odd ones once in a while. Caught and released a jack and that was that for me. Most of the fish caught were released, wild fish galore, lol. Too bad had to work otherwise incoming tides are always the best time for that bar.
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Fished yesterday 9-1 (outgoing the whole time; not a huge tide change). Took 1 home, 1 wild released, a few other good hits. Langley area. Saw quite a few caught until it slowed down around 11 and turned right off after noon.
Fished today 9:30-11 on outgoing. Friend there from 8. 1 hit between us; only saw 1 caught. Must have been 50ish people fishing the area. Conditions/tide were set for half decent morning, not sure why is was so dead.
EDIT: Maybe this is why it was so quiet (all the "INCIDENTAL" catch):
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=189222&ID=all
FN1191-Aboriginal - Salmon: Economic Opportunities - Area 29 - Lower Fraser Area - Musqueam - Opening October 29, 2016
The following commercial economic opportunity fishery is authorized for the
Musqueam First Nation for chum salmon using set and drift gill nets in the
lower Fraser River:
12:00 hours to 17:00 hours, Saturday, October 29, 2016
The fishing activity is authorized in the following area:
Those waters of the main arm of the Fraser River westerly of the power lines
immediately downstream of the Port Mann Bridge, the waters of the North Arm of
the Fraser River from the junction of the main arm downstream to the Arthur
Laing Bridge, the waters of the Middle arm of the Fraser River, the waters of
the Strait of Georgia bounded by a line commencing at 49° 11' 3.1524" N
latitude and 123° 12' 26.08868" W longitude then to 49° 7' 48.216" N latitude
and 123° 19' 50.4228" W longitude then to 49° 5' 15.6948" N latitude and 123°
18' 36.8958" W longitude then to 49° 0'8.0028" N latitude and 123° 18' 5.1156"
W longitude then to 49° 0' 7.5564" N latitude and 123° 5' 27.528" W longitude
and the waters of Boundary Bay bounded by a line commencing at 49° 0' 7.5198" N
latitude and 123° 2' 6.5898" W longitude then to 49° 0' 7.5414" N latitude and
122° 49' 10.8552" W longitude then to 49° 1' 15.2256" N latitude and 122° 48'
20.7858" W longitude. Portions of DFO Management Sub-areas 29-6, 29-7, 29-8, 29-
9, 29-10, 29-11, 29-12, 29-13, 29-14, 29-17.
Only individuals designated by the Musqueam First Nation are authorized to
participate in this fishery. All aspects of the communal licence will be
enforced. Fish harvesters are advised to contact their band for a copy of the
conditions of their fishing licence.
Notes:
The target species in this fishery is chum salmon. Retention of hatchery marked
coho salmon caught incidentally is permitted. There will be non-retention of
chinook, sockeye, pink, wild coho salmon, steelhead and sturgeon. Opportunities
to harvest chum salmon will be constrained by management objectives for
Interior Fraser steelhead which is a stock of concern presently co-migrating in
the Fraser River. All non-target species will be released back to the water
alive and unharmed.
It is mandatory that all salmon retained under the authority of this licence be
transported to the nearest landing station and made available for inspection.
A monitor shall be present during all landing of catch to record the number and
weight of each species of salmon delivered.
Environment Canada (EC) is monitoring seabird by-catch to determine potential
impact on bird populations under current fishing effort and bird numbers.
Fishers are requested to submit all dead birds entangled in nets to EC for
species confirmation and DNA analysis to determine the colony of origin. Please
call your local charter patrol to organize pick-up, drop carcasses off at a
local DFO office, or contact EC directly by calling the EC Reporting Line 1-866-
431-2473 (BIRD). Label birds with date, time, location and vessel name (Skipper
name isn't needed). Handle birds with gloves, double bag dead birds, store on
ice. For more information contact Laurie Wilson (laurie.wilson@ec.gc.ca, 604-
862-8817).
FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Brian Matts, Lower Fraser Area at (604) 666-2096
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http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=189196&ID=all
FN1185-COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Gill net - Area E - Area 29 - Fraser River Chum - Closed for the Balance of the 2016 Season
Fraser River Chum
The Area E Gill Net fishery openings described in FN1147 closed as scheduled at
19:00 hours Thursday, October 27, 2016.
In order to ensure management objectives on Interior Fraser steelhead stocks of
concern are achieved, no further Area E fisheries in Area 29 are scheduled for
the balance of the 2016 season.
Recorded updates for Area E fleet are available at (604) 666-2828.
FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Barbara Mueller, Resource Manager (Fraser River), Delta (604)666-2370
Fisheries & Oceans Operations Center - FN1185
Sent October 28, 2016 at 1456
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http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=189242&ID=all
FN1196-Aboriginal: Salmon - Economic Opportunities - Area 29 and Region 2 - Lower Fraser Area - Opening October 31, 2016
A commercial economic opportunity fishery is authorized for Aitchelitz,
Chawathil, Cheam, Kwaw-kwaw-apilt, Matsqui, Peters, Shxwha:y Village,
Shxw'ow'hamel, Skawahlook, Skowkale, Skwah, Soowahlie, Squiala, Sumas,
Tzeachten, Union Bar, Yale First Nation for chum salmon using drift and set
gill nets in the Fraser River.
This fishery is open for drift gill nets from 08:00 hours to 14:00 hours
Monday, October 31 and for set gill nets from 16:00 hours Monday, October 31 to
10:00 hours Tuesday, November 1 in the following areas:
Portions of Area 29 and Region 2: The mainstem of the Fraser River from the
Port Mann Bridge to Hope Bridge.
Only individuals designated by the Aitchelitz, Chawathil, Cheam, Kwaw-kwaw-
apilt, Matsqui, Peters, Shxwha:y Village, Shxw'ow'hamel, Skawahlook, Skowkale,
Skwah, Soowahlie, Squiala, Sumas, Tzeachten, Union Bar, Yale First Nation are
authorized to participate in this fishery. All aspects of the communal licence
will be enforced. Fish harvesters are advised to contact their band for a copy
of the conditions of their fishing licence.
Notes:
The target species in this fishery is chum salmon. Retention of hatchery marked
(i.e. fish with a healed scar in place of the adipose fin) coho salmon caught
incidentally is also permitted. There will be non-retention of chinook,
sockeye, pink, wild coho salmon (i.e. adipose fin is present), steelhead and
sturgeon.
Opportunities to harvest chum salmon will be constrained by management
objectives for Interior Fraser steelhead which is a stock of concern presently
co-migrating in the Fraser River. All non-target species will be released back
to the water alive and unharmed.
It is mandatory that all salmon retained under the authority of this licence be
transported to the nearest landing station and made available for inspection.
A monitor shall be present during all landing of catch to record the number and
weight of each species of salmon delivered.
Environment Canada (EC) is monitoring seabird bycatch to determine potential
impact on bird populations under current fishing effort and bird numbers.
Fishers are requested to submit all dead birds entangled in nets to EC for
species confirmation and DNA analysis to determine the colony of origin. Please
call your local charter patrol to organize pick-up, drop carcasses off at a
local DFO office, or contact EC directly by calling the EC Reporting Line 1-866-
431-2473 (BIRD). Label birds with date, time, location and vessel name (Skipper
name isn't needed). Handle birds with gloves, double bag dead birds, store on
ice. For more information contact Laurie Wilson (laurie.wilson@ec.gc.ca), 604-
862-8817.
FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Matthew Parslow, A/Aboriginal Affairs Advisor, Lower Fraser at (604) 666-6608
Fisheries & Oceans Operations Center - FN1196
Sent October 28, 2016 at 1655
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Oh no..not another opening.
Scouter, aren't the tides outgoing in the morning this weekend? ???
Heading out to area tomorrow for the afternoon low to incoming tide. Will report back.
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Oh no..not another opening.
Scouter, aren't the tides outgoing in the morning this weekend? ???
Heading out to area tomorrow for the afternoon low to incoming tide. Will report back.
yup, they are Tim... brain to typing misfire LOL Maybe see you there!
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yup, they are Tim... brain to typing misfire LOL Maybe see you there!
yeah maybe..depends on which bar we end up ;D ;) I'll be there with probably another forum member (not sure whether he can make it). Hope we both pick up some fish today :)
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Fished Langley area from 2:15-6:00 (low to mid incoming tide). Pretty slow compared to last weekend- landed 1 hatchery jack and missed a few good bites. Saw only 1 other fish (another jack or small trout?) landed and released from a distance, otherwise no one else was catching. The nets yesterday probably did a good job of cleaning out the river :(
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Any recent updates from the tidal portion?
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Any recent updates from the tidal portion?
Fished Langley area Nov 2 (Wed) from 2 hrs of incoming thru first hour of outgoing. VERY slow, one zombie chum (hooked in the mouth, go figure!) and a 6" jack. A couple of smaller hits that could have been anything from a coho to wind/waves/leaves. Didn't see anyone catch anything from my vantage point.... Water was pretty choc milky from the weather/tide.
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Another opening Nov 5 - http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=189476&ID=all
FN1238-Aboriginal - Salmon: Economic Opportunities - Area 29 - Lower Fraser Area - Musqueam - Opening November 5, 2016
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The following commercial economic opportunity fishery is authorized for the
Musqueam First Nation for chum salmon using set and drift gill nets in the
lower Fraser River:
05:00 hours to 12:00 hours, Saturday, November 5, 2016
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Pretty dead (other than a few bites and a riser or 2) down in Annacis yesterday (Friday) evening (low to early incoming tide). Water vis was around a foot or so, degraded when the wind and waves picked up. Fishing may be done in that area..that being said, North Arm may still produce.
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Halloween Monday, 2 hours before high 2 hrs after a big fat zero. Thursday, first 6 casts 4 coho, 1 hatchery. 2 hrs later 1 hatchery. Same fishing time as Monday. Friday, fished 5 hrs, last cast, 1 wild. A couple more casts after that, nothing. Only saw a couple other coho hooked on all three days. Done bar fishing for the year. 15 hatchery in the freezer.
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Fished Friday morning on a Surrey area bar on incoming high tide for 2 hours. It was a bit high for that bar. Saw 2 hatch among about a dozen rods. A lot less people than the prime season. Colder, rainier, and fewer fish. Season is going to end soon.
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Just a general question about this fishery. Does the North Arm have more fish later in the season than the South Arm or do you get roughly the same odds fishing either arm?