Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: JAwrey on June 08, 2011, 04:42:58 PM
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I've had any number of people today tell me about the bait ban on the cap, either that there is one or there isn't one...whats the deal?? Can somebody provide the months the bait ban is in effect, if it is annual, so I can make a note of it? I have always just not used roe in the cap, spoons have always produced.
John
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http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/regulations/docs/1113/fishing-synopsis_2011-13_region2.pdf
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http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/regulations/docs/1113/fishing-synopsis_2011-13_region2.pdf
You the man, Rod. Thanks bud.
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imo that bait ban only promotes snagging and other illegal activities....
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imo that bait ban only promotes snagging and other illegal activities....
totally agree
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X3 Have heard that it was to protect summer runs or an early run of now non existent red springs. IMO it probably does little to protect summer runs in the general scheme of things compared to other issues on the river, but if that was the argument why not allow the use of bait below the canyon at that time of year? There is also no resident trout to speak of. It is quite frustrating in the fall when there are waves and waves of hatchery fish going past when the water is up and it is tough to get them to bite. I just end up sticking to spoons.
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id be more worried about the poor summer run that actually makes it pass the gauntlet down low and into cable pool where it gets snagged over and over again. It's a hatchery river bait ban should be non existant
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That's why I said it does little to protect the summers in the general scheme of things. Am sure those few stale winters are having blast getting hooked over and over up top on bait and anything else but the kitchen sink. My own personal opinion is that the bait ban should go period, am just playing devils advocate looking for a compromise.
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Am almost tempted to suggest shutting the cable pool at certain times of the year to protect the Steelies holed up there, but that would just move that mess elsewhere on the river. No easy answers on a dammed short river in an urban area I guess.
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Well they knew that fresh roe in there was a killer so they put in the bait ban.
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the dam was the true kiiller
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Despite the bait ban there are a few regulars who uses bait during this time. I have never seen a CO during the bait ban.
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I have never seen a CO during the bait ban.
I have to disagree on this point as I live close to the Cap and fish there often. During the bait ban period last year, I have seen DFO officers (not COs) more than a few times at the Cable Pool area checking licenses, hooks and checking for other violations. I think it would be unfair to say that the DFO is not doing their job on the Cap.
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X3 Have heard that it was to protect summer runs or an early run of now non existent red springs. IMO it probably does little to protect summer runs in the general scheme of things compared to other issues on the river, but if that was the argument why not allow the use of bait below the canyon at that time of year? There is also no resident trout to speak of. It is quite frustrating in the fall when there are waves and waves of hatchery fish going past when the water is up and it is tough to get them to bite. I just end up sticking to spoons.
NR, you are quite right that we should get rid of the existing bait ban as I don't think it does much to protect the summer run.
All it does is makes catching fresh hatchery coho more difficult and ends up harming the wild coho via excessive catch and release or accidental snagging.
Spoons do work, but wild coho by their more aggressive nature, also tends to hit it more often than the more passive hatchery fish.
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I think it would be unfair to say that the DFO is not doing their job on the Cap.
Great to hear DFO are out checking licenses (I heard they handed out some tickets to bait fishers too) - but I think their job extends a bit more than that. IMO they could do more to resolve the conflict with the natives which is a way bigger issue than a few guys fishing with roe when they shouldnt be.
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I have to disagree on this point as I live close to the Cap and fish there often. During the bait ban period last year, I have seen DFO officers (not COs) more than a few times at the Cable Pool area checking licenses, hooks and checking for other violations. I think it would be unfair to say that the DFO is not doing their job on the Cap.
Very nice and well but how often do they expend some energy and check the more less accessible spots ? That's where the action is.
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Got to agree with FA on that point. In the last two years I have fished the river a lot (4+ times a week) and I have never seen a CO in the mid to lower. On the flip side though I have also heard that they are the same CO's that deal with the Squamish area and concentrating their efforts up there should be more of priority with the limited resources I'm sure they have IMO.
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Very nice and well but how often do they expend some energy and check the more less accessible spots ? That's where the action is.
Hate to disagree with you FA but uhhh, what action are you talking about ??? And do you really think that with the manpower shortage we have now with dfo's it would be smart to send them on a wild goose chase deep into the canyon or some other hard to reach area, and to check what ???
I've only been fishing the river 30 plus years so maybe I'm missing something that only a select few know. The people I've met and watched fishing are mostly intelligent and law abiding and they take the time to hike to get away from the rabble that fish the Cable Hole. I would welcome any officer to show up deep in the canyon to check me and the other fishermen out for licences or what-not. And I would equally laugh and say, "What a waste of time for you guy's to be here ! ", "Our tax dollar's at work"
My 2 pennies worth.
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The bait ban applies to the entire river. If they can't or even try to enforce the regulations, why implement it in the first place ? The action I'm referring to is the use of bait during the bait ban. They don't have to go into the canyon areas to find the culprits. Just go down to the highway bridge and you find rocks covered in borax.