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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: dave c on July 02, 2018, 11:27:45 AM
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Just wondering if anyone has had any success or is this years run looking as dismal as last year's. Im heading out tomorrow. Will report.
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I heard the Chilliwack hatchery was phasing out the summer red springs for fall harrison whites.
Can anyone confirm this?
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I heard the Chilliwack hatchery was phasing out the summer red springs for fall harrison whites.
Can anyone confirm this?
If you view the report you can download at this link http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/sep-pmvs/projects-projets/ifmp-pgip-eng.html (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/sep-pmvs/projects-projets/ifmp-pgip-eng.html), you will see the 2016 brood year still met (actually exceeded) the release targets of 1 million fall chinook and 500k summer chinook. Curious to me is there is a line for spring chinook with a target of 50,000, but no release was apparently made. Is this a project to enhance the native spring run chinook?
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Additionally, if you look at the IFMP for 2018, you will see there is still a goal of releasing 500,000 summer chinook in the Chilliwack river, and it provides a little more clarity on the spring Chinook - saying the goal of the intended releases of spring Chinook is "rebuilding".
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Thanks! Looks like it says the 500k is for harvest, that's the summer run, then there was 50k for the spring native run for "rebuilding" and million harrison whites released for harvest
The Chilliwack River watershed supports three distinct stock groups:
a spring-run population that spawns between Slesse Creek and the Chilliwack
Lake outlet; this population is indigenous to the Chilliwack River and is very
small in abundance;
a summer-run population that predominately spawns in the upper reaches of the
lower Chilliwack River above Slesse Creek; this population’s origin is from
transplants of mid/upper Fraser River summer-run populations and is supported
by enhancement; and,
a transplanted Harrison-origin fall-run population that predominately spawns
downstream of the Slesse Creek confluence; this population is significantly
supported by enhancement efforts.
Thanks Coho for the information!!
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Just wondering if anyone has had any success or is this years run looking as dismal as last year's. Im heading out tomorrow. Will report.
Last two years have been piss poor. You can’t judge run by opening day though... also imo the native spring run is most likely extinct...
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Cue the crickets on this one boys...
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also imo the native spring run is most likely extinct...
Yeah sure seems that way, I don't think they collect brood from it
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I remember in the early 90s, we would all park at Lickman and everyone would either camp or have trailers there. The reds would rise usually first week of July and by second week they would all be jumping up and down. Hooking a few during an outing is the norm. Its one of the toughest fish to land if they are over 20lb.
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I remember in the early 90s, we would all park at Lickman and everyone would either camp or have trailers there. The reds would rise usually first week of July and by second week they would all be jumping up and down. Hooking a few during an outing is the norm. Its one of the toughest fish to land if they are over 20lb.
Or people camped out overnight at the Limit Hole (when it was legal to fish there)
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I remember fishing the Stamp River in the 80s when there was huge returns of fall chinooks. I called them tackle busters. The fight in those large fish were off the charts. One would hook fish after fish until your limit of 2 was landed and tagged out. Those were the days.
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Avid angler is right last 2 years piss bloody poor , 3 years ago was very good, few distinct spots have fish but every year there’s one unique hotspot! Hope this year is better , will fish in second week of July
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Additionally, if you look at the IFMP for 2018, you will see there is still a goal of releasing 500,000 summer chinook in the Chilliwack river, and it provides a little more clarity on the spring Chinook - saying the goal of the intended releases of spring Chinook is "rebuilding".
curious of those 500k how many adults return? I've heard it seldom exceeds 1 or 2,000
Also the spring 'rebuilding' number was not achieved due to no brood availability.
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curious of those 500k how many adults return? I've heard it seldom exceeds 1 or 2,000
Also the spring 'rebuilding' number was not achieved due to no brood availability.
Do you know if any effort was ever made to obtain brood stock?
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Do you know if any effort was ever made to obtain brood stock?
Efforts were made a few years ago and I believe a few were spawned, but the truth is the native, indigenous chinooks are all but extinct. To capture what might be left for broodstock would be very costly.
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Do you know if any effort was ever made to obtain brood stock?
No - the comments on the right state "No brood availability".
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curious of those 500k how many adults return? I've heard it seldom exceeds 1 or 2,000
Also the spring 'rebuilding' number was not achieved due to no brood availability.
I believe only the fall whites are CWT tagged and used as return and exploitation indicator. Last I saw the Chilliwack whites had a 5% is survival rate to age 2 and had some of the highest survival out of many rivers.
Not sure where the summer reds rear, I don't think they rear in the strait of Georgia like the Harrison whites do. I also don't no if they are ocean type like the Harrison whites where they migrate out to the marine estuary right away and stay their for 6 months or if their a stream type and stay in fresh water for a longer period of time.
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Hit above train bridge this morning first light. Nothing Nada Zilch. 5 other guys showed up. No love for them either. Water was up with good vis.
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Hit a spot where I saw red springs bonked last year, no bites. Campers close by said no one had any luck that day. Guess I'll save the rest of my roe for fall!
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Skunks all around!
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Went out yesterday to upper river to do some exploring. Didn't bother bringing the gear for springs. Here's a stretch of river at Allison Pools. Clarity was good.
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Hit the canal on incoming tide. Nuthin.
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So many people in Vedder today when I drove by. Were there fish caught?
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They weren’t
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I fished last wednesday and thursday. Nothing on wednesday but got one thursday about 12 lbs below crossing on yarrow side.
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I fished last wednesday and thursday. Nothing on wednesday but got one thursday about 12 lbs below crossing on yarrow side.
Congratulations on the fish. There may be hope yet.
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Been out 6 times, haven't seen a salmon, heard of a few caught.
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Going to try tommorrow early am. Any secret spots? Haha just kidding. Prob try lower mid area. Havent been up since steelhead.
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Congratulations on the fish. There may be hope yet.
Hey thanks, was a pleasant surprise after not seeing or hearing of a fish all day the day before.
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any recent success stories ?
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Nothin for me today. Saw a couple hooked.
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Fished yesterday from first light and got skunked ....
Saw one hooked in the lower at around 2pm..... Im gonna sleep in next weekend :o
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few around then, thats encouraging.
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Went out this morning first light around canal. Caught 1 5lbish sockeye on cured pautzke prawn.....otherwise nothing. Going back maybe a week from now.
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Don't let the sockeye overwhelm the spring
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Went six times in 3 weeks, got one. Never saw or heard of another one caught.