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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: salmonsurvey on August 06, 2010, 08:01:51 PM
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Hi everyone!
My name is Vivian and I am doing research around the Fraser River. Unlike the angling study I'm studying anglers.
I am looking to chat with some of you who are fishing for salmon. I am trying to get your opinions and perspectives about the current management and conservation strategies that are in place for the salmon recreational fisheries.
Also looking to talk to you about thoughts on responsible fishing and how we can improve the rec salmon fisheries.
Would love to get all your ideas, inputs and thoughts!
I will be wandering around the popular fishing bars to look for anglers to talk to. Please look for me!
If you are interested you can also contact me through here.
Hope to see you all at the fishing bars :)
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I'll bite.
E-mail me at dougliu@telus.net
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Hi everyone!
My name is Vivian and I am doing research around the Fraser River. Unlike the angling study I'm studying anglers.
I am looking to chat with some of you who are fishing for salmon. I am trying to get your opinions and perspectives about the current management and conservation strategies that are in place for the salmon recreational fisheries.
Also looking to talk to you about thoughts on responsible fishing and how we can improve the rec salmon fisheries.
Would love to get all your ideas, inputs and thoughts!
I will be wandering around the popular fishing bars to look for anglers to talk to. Please look for me!
If you are interested you can also contact me through here.
Hope to see you all at the fishing bars :)
Maybe you can share with us what the research will be used for. Who are you employed by?
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The research will be used to help bridge the gap between management and the fishing community as well as trying to understand angler's views on conservation of migrating salmon.
I am employed by Carleton University and also working in collaboration with the University of British Columbia. This research is part of my Master's project at Carleton and investigates the social side of conservation.
Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any other questions or concerns!
Thanks!
PS anyone know any fishing spots that will be really busy this weekend?
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Vivian, good to see that you got the posting worked out. Anyway, I'll mention this request briefly in our Lower Mainland fishing report next week so hopefully that can generate some interests too.
Just a couple more questions. Is the study focusing on a specific fishery in the Fraser Valley such as the Fraser River or its tributaries (eg. Chilliwack River), or focusing on the entire Fraser Valley/Lower Fraser River as a whole?
For this weekend, and next weekend, and the weekend after that, Fraser River between Chilliwack and Hope will be busy. Island 22 maybe a good starting point. It is a boat launched accessed by majority of the boat anglers on the Fraser River. Your challenge would be to get their attention as most will be busy getting their boat either in or out of the water. There are also a couple of foot accessed spots further upstream from Chilliwack, I'll let others to tell you where exactly those locations are as I am not familiar with them.
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The research will be used to help bridge the gap between management and the fishing community as well as trying to understand angler's views on conservation of migrating salmon.
I am employed by Carleton University and also working in collaboration with the University of British Columbia. This research is part of my Master's project at Carleton and investigates the social side of conservation.
Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any other questions or concerns!
Thanks!
PS anyone know any fishing spots that will be really busy this weekend?
Jones Creek, Pipeline and Scale are probably busy. Bars like Grassy, Wellington, Pegleg and Bouwmans will be busy but you'll need a boat ride to get to them.
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If you see a tall guy fishing with a spey rod (two handed fly rod) wearing a camo hat, fishing on either the Vedder or Fraser, feel free to come on over. I'll gladly voice my opinion on my view of fisheries management.
BTW, I think that's a fantastic idea for a Master's subject, if that interests you.
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Just a couple more questions. Is the study focusing on a specific fishery in the Fraser Valley such as the Fraser River or its tributaries (eg. Chilliwack River), or focusing on the entire Fraser Valley/Lower Fraser River as a whole?
For this current season, the study is focused on the recreational salmon fishery of the Lower Fraser River and its tributaries (basically river mouth to Hell's Gate). I hope that answers your question! thanks !
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I will answer questions hooter_71@hotmail.com
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I am wiling to answer your questions too. Email me at fishingnewsman@gmail.com
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Same here. chris@ggprinting.com
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Thanks guys!
Was out at Scale bar and Snaggy bar today off Hwy7, was pretty busy.
Might be head around Laidlaw tomorrow, so look out for me !
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Was nice to run into some of you guys today! I will be at Peg Leg tomorrow (thursday), so please come say hi !
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Nice chatting with ya
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I would love to share some ideas via email...could you email me?
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Was nice to run into some of you guys today! I will be at Peg Leg tomorrow (thursday), so please come say hi !
Since you are from out of town I figured I'll give you the heads up.
The 'fishermen' that you meet at these places are what you might consider the lowest common denominator. There is no 'responsible fishing' taking place at these areas. This is a fishery that is fueled by greed.
I suspect you will find very different perspectives between those who partake in this fishery and those that don't.
If you would like to contact me please follow the email listed under my profile. I'm not a big fan of spam mail so I didn't post it inside the thread.
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The 'fishermen' that you meet at these places are what you might consider the lowest common denominator. There is no 'responsible fishing' taking place at these areas. This is a fishery that is fueled by greed.
SLAM!
Guess that makes me '1' :( (the lowest common demoninator)
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Since you are from out of town I figured I'll give you the heads up.
The 'fishermen' that you meet at these places are what you might consider the lowest common denominator. There is no 'responsible fishing' taking place at these areas. This is a fishery that is fueled by greed.
I suspect you will find very different perspectives between those who partake in this fishery and those that don't.
If you would like to contact me please follow the email listed under my profile. I'm not a big fan of spam mail so I didn't post it inside the thread.
Comments like yours certainly tell a lot about who you are. ??? Rating everyone as the lowest common denominator in order to elevate your own stature probably won't be all that successful for you......
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Since you are from out of town I figured I'll give you the heads up.
The 'fishermen' that you meet at these places are what you might consider the lowest common denominator. There is no 'responsible fishing' taking place at these areas. This is a fishery that is fueled by greed.
I suspect you will find very different perspectives between those who partake in this fishery and those that don't.
If you would like to contact me please follow the email listed under my profile. I'm not a big fan of spam mail so I didn't post it inside the thread.
Again you are wrong, I was out there and did speak with salmonsurvey, I'm pretty sure there are plenty of conservation minded folks out there.....
perhaps she will remember speaking to me and my bud at the mouth of the silverhope, sat morning. we were walking out.....I have some conservation projects coming up if your still interested salmonsurvey.
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Since you are from out of town I figured I'll give you the heads up.
The 'fishermen' that you meet at these places are what you might consider the lowest common denominator. There is no 'responsible fishing' taking place at these areas. This is a fishery that is fueled by greed.
I suspect you will find very different perspectives between those who partake in this fishery and those that don't.
If you would like to contact me please follow the email listed under my profile. I'm not a big fan of spam mail so I didn't post it inside the thread.
Wow, your comments just make me shake my head. Lowest common denominator? A large percentage of the people on this board are partaking in the Sockeye fishery, many of whom are responsible fisherman, good stewards of the resource by volunteering in clean ups, and generally abide by the law. They aren't fueled by greed, all they want to do is to go out and catch a couple of fish to take home, and nothing more. I am by no means promoting or denouncing this fishery, my opinion of it does not matter but comments like yours serve to further divide Recreational fishing community more so than it already is.
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I would have to agree 100% with sterling on his comment. The sockeye meat fishery is not a real SPORT fishery, it is a harvest. I doubt many anglers out there regularly check their regs, know proper fish ID, or even give a rats you know what about how the sport is handled or managed. You're going to end up getting tainted info which is biased I think.
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I would have to agree 100% with sterling on his comment.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion - even if they are wrong. ;) Hmm - Maybe I'm wrong ??? I'll have to ask my missus! :D
Sterlings quote:
The 'fishermen' that you meet at these places are what you might consider the lowest common denominator.
So both you and Sterling figure that NO responsible and ethical sportfisherman would be caught partaking in catching a few sockeye directly from the river as opposed to purchasing it off the shelf, off a boat or off the back of a truck!! Again - everyone is entitled to an opinion...
I doubt many anglers out there regularly check their regs, know proper fish ID, or even give a rats you know what about how the sport is handled or managed. You're going to end up getting tainted info which is biased I think.
This statement I totally agree with as now you are not generalizing the entire angler population.
The problem is, no matter where Vivian attempts to attain her information in the lower mainland (unless it is in a remote river or lake location where then she will find a responsible and ethical sportfisherman ::) ), there will be those who simply choose to ignore or simply not read up on the current rules and the regulations of any waterway.
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Vivian, I would love to chat via email, telephone, or at a bar this weeken... (sorry sterling) ;) Where will you be this weekend?
I have fished the sockeye run 3 times this summer...every trip I have seen a variety of rules broken from barbed hooks, to double dipping, to retaining a snagged fish (i even pointed it out to the guy that it was hooke din the back...he didnt care)...what we call the "sports sockeye fishery" is a mess and it is messing a lot of other fisheries.
While I do particapate, I often reget my greed as it fuels the degridation of so many of fisheries I enjoy sooooo much more than sockeye.
PS - alwaysfishn, Sterling doesnt need to elevate his status...he is a top rod on any drift, I have fished with him occasionally over a number of years: casting flies for coho, casting spinners, twitching gigs, floating roe...steelhead, salmon, what ever...he knows how to make a fish bite so I totally understand his attitude towards the sockeye fishery.
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PS - alwaysfishn, Sterling doesnt need to elevate his status...he is a top rod on any drift, I have fished with him occasionally over a number of years: casting flies for coho, casting spinners, twitching gigs, floating roe...steelhead, salmon, what ever...he knows how to make a fish bite so I totally understand his attitude towards the sockeye fishery.
I'm not questioning his abilities or his choices regarding putting meat on the table. I am however suggesting that calling you, me and thousands of other fishermen "the lowest common denominator" will not garner him a lot of respect even if he thinks it does. ???
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I think you previosuly agreed/stated that the sockeye fishery is a meet fishery...its not a sport fishery like winter steelies, fall salmon, etc...so why would you disagree with sockeye fishermen being called the lowest common denomonator...its true isn't it ???
I know there are lots of people out there right now that their only salmon hooked this year will be a flossed fish on the fraser...lets face it...the fraser floss fishery is a joke. I know there are people here that are very proud to floss a sockeye...heck it even was worth a post in fish porn for someone (new low in my books) ...I think we could all benefit from keeping things in perspective a little. We are out there snagging fish...lets not glorify it to be anything better than that.
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I'm not questioning his abilities or his choices regarding putting meat on the table. I am however suggesting that calling you, me and thousands of other fishermen "the lowest common denominator" will not garner him a lot of respect even if he thinks it does. ???
I highly doubt that sterling comes on here to make friends or try to earn peoples interweb respect. I think that he, much like myself come on here to see what the general mass of bodies from the fishing world are talking about and to voice our opinions when so feel like doing.
Yes the sockeye snaggery is a terribe way for people to think that they are fishermen but with the lack of education that is provided for the sport what would you expect? There should be a test to write just like there is for hunting, as in all reality we are hunting fish. In the test there could be a section on ethics, proper angler behavior, fish identification, and most importantly fish handling skills.
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Here we go again. The debate about the ethics (or lack of) of sockeye fishing will go on forever.