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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: FF on September 20, 2006, 11:48:14 AM
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This is a coho from last week
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/FF_420/IMG_0085.jpg)
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Damn thats a nice fish! :o
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Wow, nice coho. So which river system were you fishing?
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NICE COHO :D FF!
dennyman, it looks like the fraser. most likely a thompson coho. ;)
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very nice coho, well done that must of put up a nice fight for yah :o
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Very nice looking coho FF, thanks for the report bigfisher, I hate when the hook pops out >:(
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That's a nice Coho FF. Must be close to 19#
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What a beaut is that fraser or from up north? :o
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Nice fish Felix. ;D I heard about it in the shop from Garry and Jordan. ;)
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Beauty ;D
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Nice fish!
Is that a net :o and a wild ho
Monster though!
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Big Boy indeed. Lil fisherman, Your damn rights thats a net. A catch and release net that is. The net is the best way to quickly land a coho so it is back on its way withing minutes from being hooked especially a coho of that size trying to bring it in to shallow water to land would be hard on the fish as coho tend to go nuts once they feel gravel on their bellies it would have probably knocked himself silly or would have taken twice as long to land. As you can see there is no line or net marks on this fish and it was out of the water for no longer then 5 seconds.
Took him on a huge 4 inch flash fly with a #4 stinger hook. I was actually targeting chinook at the time as the fraser was running very clear.
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WoW!! Thats got to be one of the nicest coho pictures I've ever seen! BP
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too bad it was a wild coho had the bbq all fired up(http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/clap.gif)
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doesn't a stinger hook constitute more than one hook, therefore, not cosher with the single-barbless rules?
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Not if the first hook was cut off.
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FF, do you mind if I ask what weight spey rod that is? I've got an 8/9 and am wondering whether it might be up to the challenge. I'm guessing you're using a 9/10?
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nice fish and nice picture. it seems that you are using a very wide angle lance.. what camera and lance you were using?
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Well I wasn't trying to state anything in the wrong sense FF. :P You are def. right about not dragging it up on rocks like some people do! >:(
And with a big fish like that...and that its a fraser coho...you cant really even attempt to fin it with your hands :D.
Good Job! Beauty!
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Damn nice fish...I've got a dozen patterns tied up for tomorrow...can't wait...
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What a beauty,that is a fish of a lifetime.
Congratulations.
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very nice HO ;D
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WoW!! Thats got to be one of the nicest coho pictures I've ever seen! BP
It's pretty hard to take a bad photo with a Canon Powershot S3 IS
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Not to be a black clowd over this great report and that great pic, but I am dismayed to see those 5th wheels and campers in the background...does anyone else feel the same (I am making an assumption that they're from a bunch of flossers). Had that fish gone up the other side of the river he could have been greeted with a larger hook in the side of the face and an unceremonious release covered in sand and gravel.
Am I right FF, were there lots of BB out when you hooked that fish?
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Nice fish ff, thanks for the report.
Gooey, if that is Peg Leg there are still plenty of bouncers out there. Not all of the RV`s belong to them as we met a fellow who was bar fishing/camping for the week in his Winnebago. He managed a 24 inch jack spring and his daughter landed a jack spring when they first started camping. It`s to bad about all the bouncers out there still, I would like to bar fish some different spots on the bar but the gauntlet of them covers most of the better water.
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That is a great picture! Very nice!
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WOW nice coho FF :)
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Yup them bouncers just dont know when to stop. One day they will ruin it for everyone. The Spey rod I used Is a sage 9141 with a 8/9 skagit head so your 8/9wt rod will work fine I just hope that the fraser clears up a little. Yes the first hook was cut off and the camera is a Canon Powershot S3 IS just picked it up a couple of weeks ago and I am really impressed with it so far. Anyways heading back up to the Pitt so tight lines all
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That is an awesome photo, nice work FF!
What a coho!
Cheers,
Nicole
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Don't forget, no one has ever flossed a fish while flyfishing! I believe some of the campers belong to bar-fishers. The lower section of the Peg is too slow to bounce well. A fly rod with a sinking line just might do the trick. 8)
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I don't think we need this to turn into another flossing thread ;)
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Sweet coho :o
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All Tangled Up.....Unless the fish are stacked like cord wood it is nearly impossible to floss or snag a fish on the fly rod especially if the person is fishing proper sink tip methods which is (if I do need to tell you, which I am asuming I do because of the fact that you probably have never fished anywhere else in the province execpt the lower mainland or the Vedder should I say).. Cast 45 degrees down stream and let it swing if you are snagging bottom you are to deep fish eat looking up and you want to be off the bottom at all times. Many times fish will even take on the retrieve. Of course being a thick headed bottom bouncer like yourself you will never get the concept and it is almost a waste of time trying to explain it. But someone else might read it and get the point. I fished this section of river for 2 days and this was the only fish that I caught, a big mean aggressive northern Ho.
Funny how some Jealous smuck always something smart to say ;D
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Nice fish FF!
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Beautiful fish dude. All Tangled Up, only an inexperienced flyfisher would put his flyline in jeopardy just on the offchance of flossing a fish. If a sinking line ran through a toothy mouth, it could easily catch and get gouged up. Experienced guys know this and avoid it...granted, sometimes it happens by accident but its rare if youre fishing like FF is saying.
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Nice fish FF. I know exactly what you mean - from a flyfisher's point of view.
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That's why I see fly-fisherman in the rapids of Tamahi all the time! It's a nice fish no matter how you caught it. You obviously are extremely skilled in your 'craft' and take extreme disrespect in anyone offering up the chance that some clown is fly-fishing the muddy Fraser and actually expects me to think this Northern Ho chased down that fly. Give your head a good shake and stop flossing the Fraser while DFO 'requests' selective techniques. I do not fish the Fraser while these recommendations are in effect. I preffer to do the sensible thing and not harass the crucial stocks of Coho that are in the system right now. Keep on thinking you're the man. You'll go far............
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That's why I see fly-fisherman in the rapids of Tamahi all the time! It's a nice fish no matter how you caught it. You obviously are extremely skilled in your 'craft' and take extreme disrespect in anyone offering up the chance that some clown is fly-fishing the muddy Fraser and actually expects me to think this Northern Ho chased down that fly. Give your head a good shake and stop flossing the Fraser while DFO 'requests' selective techniques. I do not fish the Fraser while these recommendations are in effect. I preffer to do the sensible thing and not harass the crucial stocks of Coho that are in the system right now. Keep on thinking you're the man. You'll go far............
Just so you know, at the time this fish was caught, the river was probably the clearest it has ever been, as far as I was told by a couple of Old-timers. It was sitting between 4-8 feet vis, depending on where you were. That is plenty for a coho to see and chase down a fly!! I was on the river around this time in I personally couldn't believe how clear it was. But you can think what you want, and judge people on-line if that helps you sleep at night!! ::)
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Actually, when I was on the Fraser in the first week of September, the water was coloured - but there was some visibility. It is entirely possible that the coho took his fly. With all the dry weather we've had all summer, the water has been dropping and clearing. In fact, a bit of colour is ideal for the fly - or any method. Could he have also flossed the fish? Possibly. But it is also very possible that that fish took the fly.
As another example - I quite regularly fly fish the Squamish which is usually coloured to some degree. However, when the pinks or chum arrive - they are aggressive and definitely strike at flies - both on the drift and retrieve.
As for fly fishing the Tamahi rapids - the water is way too fast to properly present a fly into the zone, plus the bouldery environment makes fly fishing very difficult. The "pocket" water is great for float fishing however as you can easily get into the zone with a short leader. I personally wouldn't bother taking my fly rod to that area - but I do have a new GL2 drift rod that I can't wait to try out! :D
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That's why I see fly-fisherman in the rapids of Tamahi all the time! It's a nice fish no matter how you caught it. You obviously are extremely skilled in your 'craft' and take extreme disrespect in anyone offering up the chance that some clown is fly-fishing the muddy Fraser and actually expects me to think this Northern Ho chased down that fly. Give your head a good shake and stop flossing the Fraser while DFO 'requests' selective techniques. I do not fish the Fraser while these recommendations are in effect. I preffer to do the sensible thing and not harass the crucial stocks of Coho that are in the system right now. Keep on thinking you're the man. You'll go far............
Wow, FF catches a lifetime fish and shares it with us and Mr. All Tangled Up (aka Mr. Buzz Kill) gets consumed by fish envy. Dude I know that piece of water and like BigSteel said the vis was at least 2 meters. I've personally fished it there last year and the clarity is unreal.
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It is disappointing that this mudslinging had to start. I am happy for the fisherman that caught this coho, and he was even up front with how difficult it was to catch the fish. I look at this site as a place to learn and share information, not to belittle other people. And now I don't blame other fisherman if they don't post their reports, if this is the type of crap that gets thrown their way.
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Anyone who has flyfished Pinks on the fraser knows how eagerly they bite to a swung fly, and I use a light pink marabou fly tied on a size 6 hook, and it's deadly!
There's no doubt that the fish can see the flies, and in case you failed to read, the fly he used was FOUR INCHES LONG!
Felix, I don't normally back you up, but this time i'm behind you 100%... A big buck like that one must have really pounded that fly... I'm envious it wasn't me :D
Tangled up, we'd be fishing size 4 spin and glos this time of year, so you're in the wrong here, the fish can see just fine.
That's all I have to say about that, other than NICE FISH!
:D
Nicole
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FF,
That is an impressive ho to catch on the fly & extra special to do it on the Fraser.
Great fish !
I can relate to hard work - 2 days fishing to connect is tough going.
But having your fly in the flow gives you a chance in the first place regardless of fishing conditions.
Thanks for the photo & story.
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I suggest everyone against my thoughts go back and re-read this thread and determine where the mud slinging started.
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I did not know Justin Timberlake can land trophies with a spey on his shoulders. ;D
Nice fish Felix, I wouldn't worry so much about defending how it was caught unless the critic was present on that day.
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WHOA!
The right guy, with the right stuff, in the right water, at the right time! Good work FF!
Also good to see the strength of the species!
Good work FF - winning every which way!
Thanks for sharing,
BLACK JACK
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Up to 8' of vis on the Fraser! Now that's the funniest thing I've heard.
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Felix, you have come a long way from the kid in shorts I met casting flies for pinks in the Seymour a couple of years ago. Well done!
Cal
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WoW!! Thats got to be one of the nicest coho pictures I've ever seen! BP
It's pretty hard to take a bad photo with a Canon Powershot S3 IS
Geez, you even have the same camera as me, thats the trick. Great camera.
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Up to 8' of vis on the Fraser! Now that's the funniest thing I've heard.
I was there chucking spoons two weeks ago and trust me there was 8' if not more visibilty no lie !!!
I never thought it got that clear either.....and I am talking in the chilliwack area
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Up to 8' of vis on the Fraser! Now that's the funniest thing I've heard.
You obviously need to fish the fraser more often. ;D
Nice fish Felix. Its troubling that some peoples over zealous concern for fish stocks has turned this thread into another flossing debate, but that's expected.
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Great...so earlier this year the Vedder is completely blown....I'm up and want to try out my new 9wt. set up...only spot with any bank and room to back cast is above tamahi...I had a ball trying out the new gear and now i get slapped with trying to floss a fish with my $150 brand new versa tip line.... >:(.....great..just great...
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I hear the more you spend the more elite/ethical you are! Everyone come off their high horse and come to grips with the fact that a beautiful WILD Coho was caught in the Fraser while the powers that be are trying to protect them from unselective techniques. This fish was released, however prior to the Sockeye slaughter I am sure more than one of you were dead set against the flossers 'accidentally' catching and releasing the rare Sockeye from decimated stocks.
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I hear the more you spend the more elite/ethical you are! Everyone come off their high horse and come to grips with the fact that a beautiful WILD Coho was caught in the Fraser while the powers that be are trying to protect them from unselective techniques. This fish was released, however prior to the Sockeye slaughter I am sure more than one of you were dead set against the flossers 'accidentally' catching and releasing the rare Sockeye from decimated stocks.
I am one of those anti flossers and to me I have no problem with him catching and releasing this beautiful coho. He was not using a betty,and a 12' leader. The guy was throwing flies. He caught a wild coho that looks like is going to go on to its home river. It would be different if someone who flosses posted a picture of this since the fish in question would have been snagged and would not have taken the presentation. I have no problem with this since the fish was actually caught ethically. How many reports have you seen with someone catching coho on the Fraser on the fly? None that I have seen so far this year.
Excellent fish, excellent report. That fish is a beauty :)
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What does it matter if that wild coho was flossed or it took the hook ??? ???
From the conservation stand point we are should not be fishing for them. That coho represent the endangered stock that any person that has any sense of conservation should be left alone to complete it migration. I found it disturbing that a great number of fishermen/women would think that it is a great accomplishment to capture a fish from endangared coho stock.
This is the kind of behavior of 'Sport Fishermen' that I find so distasteful.
I am a 'Meat Fisherman' and proud of it. I want there to be more fish that can be taken for food in the future for future generations. I do not fish the waters for fish that needs our help for their survival.
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He was fishing for springs, not coho... The likelyhood of actually hooking a coho is so incredibly low that this added to the achievement...
And there is no guarantee that this is a Thompson fish either, that is merely an assumption. Lots of strains that are not hatchery augmented are moving past at this point...
That fish was chrome and around 19 pounds, a prime specimen... A fish of a lifetime for many anglers.
Xgolfman, I'm not sure what you're pointing out, but maybe some backlash had to do with the cultus sockeye strain, that are endangered, but I really am not sure, just suggesting a point.
Cheers,
Nicole
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He was fishing for springs, not coho... The likelyhood of actually hooking a coho is so incredibly low that this added to the achievement...
And there is no guarantee that this is a Thompson fish either, that is merely an assumption. Lots of strains that are not hatchery augmented are moving past at this point...
That fish was chrome and around 19 pounds, a prime specimen... A fish of a lifetime for many anglers.
Xgolfman, I'm not sure what you're pointing out, but maybe some backlash had to do with the cultus sockeye strain, that are endangered, but I really am not sure, just suggesting a point.
Cheers,
Nicole
Nicole,
If your argument is valid then it is okay to BB the Fraser. Your reasoning would conclude that it is a great achievement if the person caught a big wild Coho while BB'ing the Fraser R. After all, the numerical outcome based on probability would be the same.
I think your argument is not well thought out and extremely flawed.
Cheers,
Jack
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Well you don't know this angler Jack, unlike most flossers, he acutally knows what he's doing... Why don't you just ask him where the fish was hooked, in or outside the mouth?
Do you know anything about about how to swing flies for Salmon Jack? Do you actually spey fish on the Fraser? I bet not, so you really have no idea or concept of how difficult it is.
Cheers,
Nicole
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Finally someone else steps up to the plate to voice the similar opinion as me. Thanks M.J. I know it's a little tough to go against the views of some of the members.
bbronswyk2000--------You have the part right about not using a bouncing betty correct but I would be willing to bet that his leader was 12' long, or more. I also recall someone posting about a 4" fly being used. What size hook was this on? Was the hook weighted at all to get into the 'zone'?
Nicole-------Regarding hook placement. Do you then believe that the countless number of Sockeye that I have hooked over the years that were not hooked from the outside in, 'took' my presentation while flossing.
It sounds to me like there is a little back peddling here.
Cheers,
Lee
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Stop beeking if there was good viz how can you guys think this fish could have not bit? Rod catches coho in the lower fraser with bad viz. Do you think hes flossing with spoons and spinners? People like you ruin these forums. Thats a beautiful fish FF
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People this could go on forever, and what would it accomplish? Everyone has their points of view, and I highly doubt that all this bickering is going to change anyones point of view!! So let's just agree to disagree. Well, except for the fact that that was and is an incredible fish!! ;D As Nicole said, a fish of a lifetime for a lot of anglers.
PS, Hey Nicole, how you doin?? Was nice meeting you at the shop a while back and I like your new fiesty avator!! ;D
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Well you don't know this angler Jack, unlike most flossers, he acutally knows what he's doing... Why don't you just ask him where the fish was hooked, in or outside the mouth?
Do you know anything about about how to swing flies for Salmon Jack? Do you actually spey fish on the Fraser? I bet not, so you really have no idea or concept of how difficult it is.
Cheers,
Nicole
If he knows what he is doing then how did he end up hooking a fish that he was not targeting. In my experience, certain flies or lures are more attractive to certain species of fish. So, what you are saying is that he is the most unethical angler on the Fraser R. for purposely targetting Cohos --since he knows what he was doing. I do not think that DFO's request for 'selective fishing method' means to target Cohos (in dangered stock included).
It is also very difficult to endure the pain of banging one's head against the concrete wall. But just because it is difficult, it does not mean that the person who does it is an intelligent person.
I flyfish with a one hander and I swing them flies just fine. My casting techniques is pathetic could definitely improve but my journal on flies that I use is certainly helpful in determining which flies can have higher probability of success on a particular species that I am after.
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Ok then, head out to Pegleg with your single hander for a couple of days, and get back to us on the number of coho you catch, both inside and outside of the mouth :)
If you're concerned about coho bycatch, then you should lobby that barfishing should be stopped too... No fishing exept for sturgeon... We used to catch a ton of coho on bar rods...
Anyhow, I have some tying to do, to catch some coho tomorrow :)
Hey BigSteel, I'm doing great, going to do a bit of a salmon marathon tomorrow, see what's happening with the Vedder, haven't been out since Canada Day long weekend... It's been awhile! I did very well last september in a few choice spots, so I'm back at it, if any of you see me out there, say hi, I'll be at the cottonwoods and below. I have some absolutely fabulous new materials in my shopping bag today that I know will slay them this year... Watch out coho!
Cheers,
Nicole
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Well, I will be out there Nicole, you never know. I might just run into you. MInd you I don't usually fish fly water. Anyhow, good luck tomorrow, hope you get into something. I know for the first couple hrs I will be flogging the water hard. If I get inot a couple then great, if not...... Well, I don't want to think about that option at this time!! :D ;D
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Buddy is back in the upper Pitt guiding for the lodge as we argue about his flaws and meritts, lets put the flossing debate to bed until next July shall we?