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Angling at during the gas price crunch
« on: May 06, 2008, 11:56:25 AM »

We all need to get a bit more creative if we are going to continue to enjoy fish with fuel cost the way they are.

I have to confess that I rarely talk about my catches because being good at what I do, I don't want to discorage the efforts off a novice just starting out. After much thought on the subject I think I my have been wrong on being so closed mouthed.

I was also told by one of my passed editors (No I won't mention his name) to keep my mouth shut about undiscoved fisheries and to focus on writing about only the well publiczed ones. He went as far as to tell me that if I did not head his warning I would be blackballed.

Well my wife and I have done some soul searching after a long talk with Tom Johannesen over coffee at the Boat & Sportsman's Show and dessided that we need to share more.

So here goes:

There are good fisheries here on the lower mainland, but to see success you need to do your homework.

First you need to understand the feeding patterns of the fish you are after and everything that effect those feeding patterns both possitively and negatively. You can have good fishing here all year round if you ajust your tachtic in accordance to my above statement. Obseration and analisis is the key. If you think this sound like sience, you are right and it is called Picatology (the sience of sport fishing).

Second don't join the Rainbow & Coho only club; learn to fish for all speices. Take a lesson for the kids; all fish are fun. If you want to experince 100 fish days here in the lower mainland learn to fish Crappies, they will ablige you.

I have good fishing yera round 5 minets from my door in Mission.

#1 the Stave:

This river has given me 35 lb Springs, 28 lb Chum, 20 lb Coho, 10 lb Pinks, and 4 lb Rainbows, all on the fly. The action during it's summer stonefly hatch is compareable to our interior rivers. Again I didn't just go there and walk away with these fish, it took time and study. The point it the fish are there.

#2 Whonnock Lake:

This lake is the closest thing to a Cariboo lake I have seen in the lower mainland, it's one continuous rolling weedbed. This is where I perfected my dry fly skills. During the summer this lake has a terrific trico hatch and during this time a fish every cast is not an unrealistic expectation. This lake has given me Rainbow and Cutties to 2 pounds, while I have heard of lunkers to 5 lb. As well I have caught Crappies to numerus to count and seen others catch these slabs up to 3 lb off the dock.

#3 Hatzic:

This lake is a sleeper I have caught litteral boat loads of Crappies and Cattfish there since the early 70's. I have found the Crappies here to be bigger and better fighters than those in Whonnock. While I have not cracked the code to consistant action on this lakes Bass and Carp, they are there and in trophy sizes.

Further afeild within an hour:

Weaver lake:

Exelent fishery for willing Raindows who have a passion for Leach patterns and Baggy shrimp.

Lafarge Lake:

Great early season fishery. I use to take my daughters and their fiends there to catch (note I said catch) fish when I lived in Port Coquitlam. One of the best kid fish lake I know this side fo Clinton. An afternoon there trolling Doc Spratleys provide enough action to hook any kid for life.

Burrard Inlet:

Every gravel beach offers good opertunites for Sole, Flounder, Greenling, and Searun Cutthroat. Also there is a hole just off Admeralty Point that over the years has given me many limits of Crabs and Yellow california Rockfish.

The Veddar:

Everybodies favorite lower mainland river except mine. All the reports are true, this is a termenus fish producer. It is also a tremenus croud producer which turns me off. I have fished this river numerous time durning summer evening when the crouds have left and found it to be a very good Trout river, producing Rianbow and Cutthoat to 1.5 lb.

Further afeild within 4 hours:

Botiney Lake:

Great fish producer. This lake is so good that I never needed to put the boat in. Taught my oldest daughter to target fish dries there off shore. We just walked out to a point once the shadows started and I showed her to anticipate a target fishes feeding pattern by watching the rises and then catch that fish by placing the fly in it's path. All are in the 1 to 1.5 lb range and tremenuos evening dry fly action.

The Thompson River:

This river has me hooked, not that I catch great numbers of fish their I don't. Not to say it skucks me though, rarely do I go fishless there, I just don't catch large numbers. What holds my interest is ths challenge of large hard fighting wild rainbow and the fact that this river has given me as many 20 to 24 inch fish as any place I have ever fished. While I have yet to land one it's hard fighting Springs on my fly rod, I have land both Pink and Sockeye on the fly there. If you want the challenge of a true fly fishers river this is it.

The Nicola River:

This was my classroom for pefecting my skills for fly fishing rivers. This often overlooked river running from Merrit to Spences Bridge hold good numbers of Trout. This river can frustrate you, but I promise you once you learn how to raise is selective residents you will know how to catch fish in any of our provinces streams. Best option Stone nymphs, Hoppers, Stimulators, and Minnow pattens (I know fisheries say resident interior Rainbows don't eat minnows "WRONG").

4, 5, & 6 Mile lakes:

These are those little pot hole lake on the side of the road between 20 mile and Clinton. Yes the ones you fly by on your way to 100 Mile. These lakes are good producers of Easten Brook Trout like to 5 lb (I know I fish them).  Try a Royal Coachman Dry here on evening or just walk the shore and look down into the water with your poloriods, I think you will be surprised.

These are a few that won't cost you an arm and a leg to get to. There are lots more: Kelly Lake, Pare Lake, Fountain Lake, Crown Lake, Leighwood Lake, Little Big Bar Lake, Beaver Dam Lake. All good and consistant producers. So lets here some of your close to home favorites.

My final tips:

If everybody and his brother is going to said lake go somewhere else. If there is a lodge on the lake that is a negative. If there are cabins on a lake that is a negative. If you have to beat the snot out of you 4wheel drive to get to a lake it is most likely baren or over poplated mening small fish. Lastly some of the best fishing I have found has been beside a paved highway.   
 

 

 
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Re: Angling at during the gas price crunch
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 11:57:40 AM »

Sorry folks that took me so long to write I forgot to spell check.
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Re: Angling at during the gas price crunch
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2008, 03:07:24 PM »

great post.
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Re: Angling at during the gas price crunch
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2008, 04:25:02 PM »

Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Angling at during the gas price crunch
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2008, 05:17:52 PM »

 Excellent post.I too have had great fun at many of those lakes and can attest to the wisdom of your comments!
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Re: Angling at during the gas price crunch
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2008, 08:54:54 PM »

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I have to confess that I rarely talk about my catches because being good at what I do, I don't want to discorage the efforts off a novice just starting out.
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Something about that one line bugs me.  Not sure what it is though.  You don't happen to live in West Van or Southlands do you?  Nah, that can't be it, you stated you live somewhere in Mission.  But maybe you drive a Rolls or a Bentley?  Do you have a butler?

I think people who are good at what they do are the last people to say it themselves.  Much more classy when their peers or fellow enthusiasts say it for them.  Probably the biggest sign of respect.  Just my opinion.

Other than that, good post.  Always helpful to hear/read about other peoples experiences elsewhere. 

Shane

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Re: Angling at during the gas price crunch
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2008, 10:51:38 PM »

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I have to confess that I rarely talk about my catches because being good at what I do, I don't want to discorage the efforts off a novice just starting out.
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Something about that one line bugs me.  Not sure what it is though.  You don't happen to live in West Van or Southlands do you?  Nah, that can't be it, you stated you live somewhere in Mission.  But maybe you drive a Rolls or a Bentley?  Do you have a butler?

I think people who are good at what they do are the last people to say it themselves.  Much more classy when their peers or fellow enthusiasts say it for them.  Probably the biggest sign of respect.  Just my opinion.

Other than that, good post.  Always helpful to hear/read about other peoples experiences elsewhere. 

Shane




I respect his honesty.
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Re: Angling at during the gas price crunch
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2008, 10:27:14 AM »

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I have to confess that I rarely talk about my catches because being good at what I do, I don't want to discourage the efforts off a novice just starting out.
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Something about that one line bugs me.  Not sure what it is though.  You don't happen to live in West Van or South lands do you?  Nah, that can't be it, you stated you live somewhere in Mission.  But maybe you drive a Rolls or a Bentley?  Do you have a butler?

I think people who are good at what they do are the last people to say it themselves.  Much more classy when their peers or fellow enthusiasts say it for them.  Probably the biggest sign of respect.  Just my opinion.

Other than that, good post.  Always helpful to hear/read about other peoples experiences elsewhere. 

Shane
Ha Ha Shane

You gave me a good belly laugh. No I am not that well healed, but I wish I was. Then I could spend more time writing and teaching others what I have learned about fishing (my true passion) instead of spending to many hours working on this #$%^@#$ heritage house my wife and I bought. We do have a Mercedes 300sd we bough three years ago and I hate the #$%##% thing. It will be up for sale on the weekend and I will be glad to be rid of it. It has given me way too much grief with continuous vacuum leaks and electrical issues. Don't ask to buy it I refuse to sell it to a friend. I own a Jeep now (not a Suzuki I have owned three of them) and wish I had bought one years ago.

Back to the statement that offended you, What I meant was that I don't like bragging about catch 10, 20, 30 or more fish, or 20 and 30 lb springs when there are novices within earshot. I would not someone to think that I don't want to hear about their catch of that first 2 lb, Trout or their first limit, their first fly caught fish etc. I don't want to rain on someones parade, that is what I meant. Thank you for your feed back. It is comments like this that help me improve my communication skills and I value that.

A Rolls or a Bentley now that would make me real miserable I can only imagine the nightmares I would encounter fixing British equipment. You would think I would have learned when I bought my Niva (you know those Russian/Fiat 4WD's) back in 91. Ah well some of use learn the first time around, for the rest of us it takes awhile.

Jeff
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Re: Angling at during the gas price crunch
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2008, 01:27:11 PM »

A great post!!!  I am printing it for my records and when I retire in August I can look it up and perhaps learn a new place. Takes me a long time to get stuff right in order to catch fish. Piscatorially Challenged Person!!!!!
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Re: Angling at during the gas price crunch
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2008, 01:40:49 PM »

We are all challenged in one way or another.

I was tying and selling flies commercially for ten years before a pro told me that i was tying backwards. My employer put us all though a chainsaw course 4 years ago and I passed without a problem. A month ago the same instructor returns to give us a refresher and tells me I am filing the chain backwards. Go figure.
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Re: Angling at during the gas price crunch
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2008, 06:51:40 PM »

after a long talk with Tom Johannesen


 You're not giving away any secrets here but Tom J is the guy who spilled his guts about a TINY lake that maybe has a one week "hot" period in bcoutdoors...  Is that sharing or being ignorant to fellow anglers?
 

And what does this have to do with the price of gas???



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Re: Angling at during the gas price crunch
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2008, 07:49:39 PM »

awsome post!
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Re: Angling at during the gas price crunch
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2008, 08:21:43 PM »

after a long talk with Tom Johannesen


 You're not giving away any secrets here but Tom J is the guy who spilled his guts about a TINY lake that maybe has a one week "hot" period in bcoutdoors...  Is that sharing or being ignorant to fellow anglers?
 

And what does this have to do with the price of gas???





I'm suggesting we all fish closer to home and share our success and knowledge of local waters, instead of hauling a boat halfway across the province.
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2008, 10:42:20 PM »

Hmmmm......

well, just my opinion but I think this is how it will go if we all start "sharing openly" .....

the few gems that are left will be "shared" and sooner than you know it you will have to be there at 3am just to get a parking spot.  THEN you'll take your boat on longer trips halfway around the province to get to a spot that you have to yourself.

Remember, not everyone likes fishing with a lot of other people around. 

You're not whoring out spots here or blowing anyones secrets....I won't go that far.  But I will say that the guys who seem to be the most outspoken about where they are fishing are the guys that have "been there and done that" and are maybe OK with those secluded spots being busier because they've had their fill.  Thats been my experience anyways in talking to people about it.  It's one thing to share a spot with a fishing buddy, its an entirely different thing to post about secluded spots that you share with only a few other people from time to time on the internet, or worse, publish an article in a magazine read by us tourists about it.

I'm sure there are many people that will disagree with me but I think its a dangerous road to go down if you value seclusion every now and again.

haha, and if i take my truck to the nicola or thompson, it ain't a cheap gas trip! ;) 


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Re: Angling at during the gas price crunch
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2008, 11:04:34 PM »

"Sharing is caring" :)

I'm sure that some local big lakes can accommodate quite a few anglers giving them a whirl. Alouette, Stave, Pitt etc. are really just prime pickings. Not many people out there fishing when you compare it to people hauling there rear ends up to Sheridan, Green etc. Just have to know how to catch them which is for me more than half the fun. I already have trout smelling breath. :-X
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