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Title: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: MetalAndFeathers on November 19, 2018, 09:24:01 AM
Met someone from a local tackle store who was quite sure that sage centerpin blanks are actually just switch and spey rods that are just labeled as a pin. The action on my sage is nowhere near the same as my spey rod although he claimed that his sages are extremely noodle and limp. Is this true?
Title: Re: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: typhoon on November 19, 2018, 09:34:22 AM
No. Not even close.
Title: Re: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: Dave on November 19, 2018, 10:38:58 AM
uhh, care to name the tackle store??
Title: Re: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: Brian Babcock on November 19, 2018, 10:51:56 AM
Not knowing which tackle store is involved, I want to give them the benefit of the doubt on this. Apparently, the person in question referred to Sage centerpin rods specifically. There was a time, perhaps 10 years ago or so, when building Sage spey blanks into centerpin rods was very popular in the East - primarily in Ontario. This could explain the confusion.

Having said this, any Sage Gear blanks that most of us here in the West are familiar with - 3113M & L, 3106, 2106, 3106L, 2106L, etc., etc..... are most definitely not spey blanks. The entire Gear offering is a totally unique category with it's own mandrels, graphite materials, and finishes.

Hope this clears it up.

Brian
Title: Re: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: firstlight on November 19, 2018, 05:29:46 PM
Buddy had an old Sage that was made from a fly rod blank.
It was a baitcaster set-up and a very nice little rod.
Unfortunately he left it at the river one day. :'(
Title: Re: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: typhoon on November 20, 2018, 07:16:03 AM
Buddy had an old Sage that was made from a fly rod blank.
It was a baitcaster set-up and a very nice little rod.
Unfortunately he left it at the river one day. :'(

I built a similar rod with a Batson spey blank. The 4pc rod is great for transport but I found it a bit slow action for casting distance with a levelwind.
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=29043.0 (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=29043.0)
Title: Re: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: ByteMe on November 20, 2018, 09:31:46 AM
If rod mfgs had their way, we would all have a different rod for each species of fish and conditions. I have been using a 11.3ft Clarius centrepin rod with the sliding rings over the past few years as a dual purpose rod both on the beach for coho and in the rivers. When fishing the beach it tosses a 250gr Commando head with a poly leader easily out to 80 plus feet in perfect conditions both OH casts and spey casts....when conditions get windy or the fish are further out I put on a spinning reel and toss 3/8oz spoons. On the rivers if conditions are too high for fly fishing , I put on the centrepin reel. No fish that I ever caught has ever asked me what type or style of rod I was using, best $90 investment ever made
Title: Re: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: RalphH on November 21, 2018, 06:41:41 PM

Having said this, any Sage Gear blanks that most of us here in the West are familiar with - 3113M & L, 3106, 2106, 3106L, 2106L, etc., etc..... are most definitely not spey blanks. The entire Gear offering is a totally unique category with it's own mandrels, graphite materials, and finishes.

Hope this clears it up.

Brian

are those blanks still part of the regular product line? I can't find any listing for current in product Sage Centre pin blanks and their long rods are mostly switch or spey rods.
Title: Re: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: ByteMe on November 22, 2018, 08:31:04 AM
are those blanks still part of the regular product line? I can't find any listing for current in product Sage Centre pin blanks and their long rods are mostly switch or spey rods.

Here ya go Ralph

http://hooklineandsinker.ca/sage-fishing-rods-spey-to-float-centerpin-conversions/
Title: Re: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: typhoon on November 22, 2018, 08:43:03 AM
I think Ralph is referring to the Sage gear rods.
Brian Babcock controls those blanks/rods and makes them available to tackle shops.
I don’t know if he has a website but you can contact him for details.
Title: Re: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: John Revolver on November 23, 2018, 09:28:21 PM
If rod mfgs had their way, we would all have a different rod for each species of fish and conditions. I have been using a 11.3ft Clarius centrepin rod with the sliding rings over the past few years as a dual purpose rod both on the beach for coho and in the rivers. When fishing the beach it tosses a 250gr Commando head with a poly leader easily out to 80 plus feet in perfect conditions both OH casts and spey casts....when conditions get windy or the fish are further out I put on a spinning reel and toss 3/8oz spoons. On the rivers if conditions are too high for fly fishing , I put on the centrepin reel. No fish that I ever caught has ever asked me what type or style of rod I was using, best $90 investment ever made

REALLY!?  I have the exact same shimano 11.3 med/light clarus rod I use for pinning. Im a fly guy first and foremost and I have a 325gr commando head in my collection. I think I'll rig up my clarus and see how it tosses ha. I love experimenting with oddball line/weight/rod combos.
Title: Re: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: psd1179 on November 23, 2018, 10:03:16 PM
REALLY!?  I have the exact same shimano 11.3 med/light clarus rod I use for pinning. Im a fly guy first and foremost and I have a 325gr commando head in my collection. I think I'll rig up my clarus and see how it tosses ha. I love experimenting with oddball line/weight/rod combos.

It could work. The clarus rod is quite a noodle action. I broke one on its first trip
Title: Re: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: ByteMe on November 24, 2018, 08:50:26 AM
REALLY!?  I have the exact same shimano 11.3 med/light clarus rod I use for pinning. Im a fly guy first and foremost and I have a 325gr commando head in my collection. I think I'll rig up my clarus and see how it tosses ha. I love experimenting with oddball line/weight/rod combos.

Your 325gr Commando might be too heavy for the rod as it's rated for lures to 1/2oz which is 225grs, that's why I use the 250gr, as the rod has no clue whether it's a 1/2oz chunk of lead or 1/2oz fly line, just stay with it's parameters give or take a few grains, works like a charm :)
Title: Re: Sage gear are spey rod blanks?
Post by: ByteMe on November 24, 2018, 08:54:58 AM
It could work. The clarus rod is quite a noodle action. I broke one on its first trip

Been doing it for 3yrs, awesome combo, beats carrying 2 rods around,.......plus Shimano has a great warranty ;)