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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: dennisK on September 05, 2018, 03:43:07 PM
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Is it too soon for a thread? I've been laid up with a cracked ankle ugh. Has anyone been out lately.
Thanks!
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I drove over the cannal today and counted 5 people fishing just up river from the hwy. I would imagine there were more than 5 trying for early Coho
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I spent couple hours scouting the river yesterday. I was at Keith Wilson bridge and train bridge. I did not see any salmon standing on the bridges. There were some trouts and sucker fish. I met couple seniors who was scouting as well and they said they saw nothing. According to them all the commercial fishing in the Fraser had scooped all the springs. Water level was very low. I saw no one fishing at Vedder crossing. We definitely need some rain..
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I have never seen a salmon standing on the bridge.
However I have stood on the bridge, looked into the water and seen salmon. Even saw steelhead down there and once a seal!
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I explored a part of the canal between Keith Wilson bridge and the Highway bridge yesterday identifying 'snags' for future reference (low water conditions). Did not see anyone fishing or any fish. Water is 'gin' clear and very very low - almost like a 'creek' not a river. Hopefully the rain projected for this weekend will help...first I went and retrieved my two sockeye from the Fraser...
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I have never seen a salmon standing on the bridge.
However I have stood on the bridge, looked into the water and seen salmon. Even saw steelhead down there and once a seal!
I would never have thought Ralph actually had a sense of humour. What will it be next? Snow in July?
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Anyone know how many summer red chinook the hatchery got this year? Did they get their quota?
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The nets will keep it slow and rain needed. First light tide and last light show for now. There should be a few jack spring and coho trickling in. Odd adualt. Still about 2 weeks to the main push of springs. Coho as well slightly later than springs for main push. But coho will be coming in from now till nov. I wouldnt be suprised if there are a few in the hatchery already.
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Anyone know how many summer red chinook the hatchery got this year? Did they get their quota?
Went up to the hatchery today to take a gander...... The worker up there said they got 500ish red springs, already had a few coho in the channel as well as the odd spring. River is pretty low and clear as others have said.
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Great news, thanks!!!
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I would never have thought Ralph actually had a sense of humour. What will it be next? Snow in July?
Oh I am just trying to give Rieber a hard time. Syntax jokes are close to the lowest of the low. What next limericks?
"There was a young lady from Ealing..."
fill in the rest
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Oh I am just trying to give Rieber a hard time. Syntax jokes are close to the lowest of the low. What next limericks?
"There was a young lady from Ealing..."
fill in the rest
Who had a peculiar feeling . . .
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KWB has started.
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I'm getting my Gong ready!
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Is it too soon for a thread?
Thanks!
Yes....... 1100+ views before there is even any water to support a fishery worth discussing. ???
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Anybody been out? Going tommorrow first light first trip.
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It's bumping up in water level, my high water twig from last night is floating downstream somewhere. Heavy rain stopped at 11:30pm, showers from here on I believe is called for.
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I have never seen a salmon standing on the bridge.
However I have stood on the bridge, looked into the water and seen salmon. Even saw steelhead down there and once a seal!
If you spend enough hours on the water you will start to see salmon standing on the bridge ;D
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I saw one on the bridge once. He didnt hold there long. Ended up crossing the rest of the way on the bridge. Headed to chilliwack. Had a fin out trying to hitchhike.
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Looks like the gong has been banged one of my buddies got limits of coho this morning.
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Looks like the gong has been banged one of my buddies got limits of coho this morning.
Yup. My buddies limited out, too. AND they hooked into several springs, even a chum! (seriously, not kidding).
The lower Vedder is teeming with fish! Go get them guys! ;D
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The lower Vedder is teeming with fish! Go get them guys! ;D
Love it!
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There are no fish. Very slow. Dont go.
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Either I was at the wrong spot in the lower or these early run fish really don’t like flies.
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I'll go when I hear the Master (Rodney) is slaying them. ;)
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I'll go when I hear the Master (Rodney) is slaying them. ;)
He is slaying them already, he is just not telling you lol
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Yup. My buddies limited out, too. AND they hooked into several springs, even a chum! (seriously, not kidding).
The lower Vedder is teeming with fish! Go get them guys! ;D
I wouldn't go that far lol - . I cycled pillings/hopedale/kwb all day today
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Question for some, probably applicable to most. What is the view on working through/lowholing a fencepost? Is there any ethics anymore to be had during salmon season on these hatchery rivers? Ie. stepping in and working a drift around a pylon fishermen to probe the flow. If I'm working through a run and somebody fenceposts below, can I sting them at the knees accidentally on purpose to move them.
Granted salmon are migratory and moving and everyone knows the traffic on that river in season. Just looking to clarify some things.
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Question for some, probably applicable to most. What is the view on working through/lowholing a fencepost? Is there any ethics anymore to be had during salmon season on these hatchery rivers? Ie. stepping in and working a drift around a pylon fishermen to probe the flow. If I'm working through a run and somebody fenceposts below, can I sting them at the knees accidentally on purpose to move them.
Granted salmon are migratory and moving and everyone knows the traffic on that river in season. Just looking to clarify some things.
Over 40 kms of river and you're worried about fence posters....leave them be and just work your way down past them. I would understand if you were fishing a smaller system where rotational fishing would be the ethical norm. There's a lot of reason why people fence post...physical limitation, limited time, or just the fact they're on the bite. Either way, if they were there before you started the run, they should have the right to enjoy their way of fishing. I understand the frustration, especially during steelhead season, but I won't let it ruin my day unless I was already working a run and I got purposely low holed by some beek coming in from the bushes.
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I wouldn't go that far lol - . I cycled pillings/hopedale/kwb all day today
KBW, Browne and Wilson rd for me today, nothing to hand but connected with a nice coho a little bit past first light.
Question for some, probably applicable to most. What is the view on working through/lowholing a fencepost? Is there any ethics anymore to be had during salmon season on these hatchery rivers? Ie. stepping in and working a drift around a pylon fishermen to probe the flow. If I'm working through a run and somebody fenceposts below, can I sting them at the knees accidentally on purpose to move them.
Granted salmon are migratory and moving and everyone knows the traffic on that river in season. Just looking to clarify some things.
Hmmm... stinging someone at the knee is probably a very bad idea, I'd just talk with the angler in question to see if they would mind if you shifted below them. Generally I've found most people to be totally fine with it aslong as you talk with them first but there might be the odd person out there who it depends on how you want to approach ie waiting for them to leave, just moving around them anyways or seeing if you can reason with them.
On another topic... parking at Wilson road is a no-no now, no parking signs all over the place even on the main road to the gravel area where there is space for parking. Couple guys get parking tickets and buddy talked to by-law and said that they just put in the no parking signs about two weeks ago so no parking on the streets and in the gravel area and tickets and tows will given to those who do.
Looks like we are loosing parking areas on certain areas of the river, I wonder if they will open the gate to allow access down to the river from there or not.
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Over 40 kms of river and you're worried about fence posters....leave them be and just work your way down past them. I would understand if you were fishing a smaller system where rotational fishing would be the ethical norm. There's a lot of reason why people fence post...physical limitation, limited time, or just the fact they're on the bite. Either way, if they were there before you started the run, they should have the right to enjoy their way of fishing. I understand the frustration, especially during steelhead season, but I won't let it ruin my day unless I was already working a run and I got purposely low holed by some beek coming in from the bushes.
I agree , I find if they acknowledge you then they usually won’t have a problem , if they ignore you just leave them alone
I had someone low hole me last year on the Vedder during steelhead season , he just stayed at the tail out and ignored me when I got down to him , I just laughed to myself and left , of course he was a Spey fisher and I’m just a gear guy so I probably had no right to the tail out anyways ::)
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Hmmm... stinging someone at the knee is probably a very bad idea, I'd just talk with the angler in question to see if they would mind if you shifted below them. Generally I've found most people to be totally fine with it aslong as you talk with them first but there might be the odd person out there who it depends on how you want to approach ie waiting for them to leave, just moving around them anyways or seeing if you can reason with them.
Forgot the emoji's at the end of that. Was intending on that being a tongue-in-cheek statement. My apologies.
Reason I ask is because I dropped in below a pylon who didn't seem to have any issue with me as I was quite a distance downstream, proceeded to slowly cover the run until I was low holed rather rudely. Not the end of the world. As for the 40km of river comment, this wasn't directly under the KW Bridge or at any of the other gong shows, this was a rather out of the way spot as far as the lower goes.
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I had someone low hole me last year on the Vedder during steelhead season , he just stayed at the tail out and ignored me when I got down to him , I just laughed to myself and left , of course he was a Spey fisher and I’m just a gear guy so I probably had no right to the tail out anyways ::)
Well, you DO know what all those aggressive spey fishers are compensating for when they wiggle and shake their large two-handers?
Not unlike those monster pickup drivers revving their huge trucks on city streets.
Have some sympathy. ;D
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Forgot the emoji's at the end of that. Was intending on that being a tongue-in-cheek statement. My apologies.
Reason I ask is because I dropped in below a pylon who didn't seem to have any issue with me as I was quite a distance downstream, proceeded to slowly cover the run until I was low holed rather rudely. Not the end of the world. As for the 40km of river comment, this wasn't directly under the KW Bridge or at any of the other gong shows, this was a rather out of the way spot as far as the lower goes.
All good, no need to appologize for anything. I took that statement as literal cause there are some people out there who would do such a thing, don't want you getting into some messy situation or unless you are like me... and had a friend low-hole you during steelhead season and pull out two fish... I wanted to sting him for doing that. ;D
People will react in different ways it just depends on the person, but was it that same person you went below? Cause if it was I wouldn't be to surprised or they are just believing that you know where the fish are or something... sort of like when you watch one person hook a fish... suddenly EVERYONE is crowding around them casting to the same spot.... bloody drives me nuts!
Wouldn't worry to much but always take caution. Best to avoid conflict and problems cause despite it being a fairly large river it can get a bit insane at times.
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Apparently, the no parking on Wilson Rd. in Yarrow was due to over crowding the road during the summer. It was so packed with cars at times over the summer, that it hindered access for emergency vehicles.
KBW, Browne and Wilson rd for me today, nothing to hand but connected with a nice coho a little bit past first light.
Hmmm... stinging someone at the knee is probably a very bad idea, I'd just talk with the angler in question to see if they would mind if you shifted below them. Generally I've found most people to be totally fine with it aslong as you talk with them first but there might be the odd person out there who it depends on how you want to approach ie waiting for them to leave, just moving around them anyways or seeing if you can reason with them.
On another topic... parking at Wilson road is a no-no now, no parking signs all over the place even on the main road to the gravel area where there is space for parking. Couple guys get parking tickets and buddy talked to by-law and said that they just put in the no parking signs about two weeks ago so no parking on the streets and in the gravel area and tickets and tows will given to those who do.
Looks like we are loosing parking areas on certain areas of the river, I wonder if they will open the gate to allow access down to the river from there or not.
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Just curious if the bar below kwb on chilliwack side is exposed. Planning on bringing my dogs with me tomorrow and dont want them to have to stand in water for prolonged period. Tks in advance
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Just curious if the bar below kwb on chilliwack side is exposed. Planning on bringing my dogs with me tomorrow and dont want them to have to stand in water for prolonged period. Tks in advance
Leave the dogs at home..
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There are already dogs in the river. I took my dog down once. He decided to go for a swim thru the run and back again. Others not so impressed. Fishing was very slow today. Saw a couple springs hooked but that was it. More fisherman than fish.
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Thanks Aaron
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KBW, Browne and Wilson rd for me today, nothing to hand but connected with a nice coho a little bit past first light.
I was out again today started at KWB and worked the canal pretty hard and found a school of resting fish and killed it on some white springs with my double hander- super fun once I went with a heavier tippet. cycled back up to hopedale towards the end of the day. lots of people out and the odd fish here and there.
On another topic... parking at Wilson road is a no-no now, no parking signs all over the place even on the main road to the gravel area where there is space for parking. Couple guys get parking tickets and buddy talked to by-law and said that they just put in the no parking signs about two weeks ago so no parking on the streets and in the gravel area and tickets and tows will given to those who do.
Looks like we are loosing parking areas on certain areas of the river, I wonder if they will open the gate to allow access down to the river from there or not.
1st Kevs hotdogs gets the boot and now this. What the fcuk is going on? :( I am actually pretty choked the new owners of on the way gave Kev the Boot. I am never , ever buying anything from on-the-way ever again.
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Aaron is right. For the canal I will leave the dog at home when the water level reach 1.70M.
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I was out again today started at KWB and worked the canal pretty hard and found a school of resting fish and killed it on some white springs with my double hander- super fun....
JR, snap a quick pic next time so we can all share the FUN!!!
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Question for some, probably applicable to most. What is the view on working through/lowholing a fencepost? Is there any ethics anymore to be had during salmon season on these hatchery rivers? Ie. stepping in and working a drift around a pylon fishermen to probe the flow. If I'm working through a run and somebody fenceposts below, can I sting them at the knees accidentally on purpose to move them.
Granted salmon are migratory and moving and everyone knows the traffic on that river in season. Just looking to clarify some things.
Low-holing is not nearly as much of a cardinal sin during a salmon run then during steelhead season. Waves of fish flow throughout the day during a salmon run. With that being said, I always wave, say hello and nod before I drop into a position during a salmon run and you should always do the same. It's super important to always be respectful and bring a good vibe and positive energy to a run you are joining.
It's glaringly obvious out there who the seasoned and avid-anglers are. Everyone I come across is super awesome so If a total newbie armed with a fresh Canadian tire spin kit and rubber hip waders bumbles up to the river and drops in directly below me while casting over my line out of rotation I'm super patient , understanding and I might even make a few recommendations to that new nervous angler.
During Steelhead season I rotate to the top of the run and wait my turn to cycle in NO MATTER WHAT!!! - Steelhead etiquette is something NEVER , ever to be F*cked with.
Steelhead is a completely different ballgame all together. :)
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JR, snap a quick pic next time so we can all share the FUN!!!
A super cool young dude crushing it on jigs above me was nice enough to snap a few pics on my phone for me. I might post them later. Stinky Chrome Chinook tanks man. Jesus they're strong fish ahaha
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I was out again today started at KWB and worked the canal pretty hard and found a school of resting fish and killed it on some white springs with my double hander- super fun once I went with a heavier tippet. cycled back up to hopedale towards the end of the day. lots of people out and the odd fish here and there.
1st Kevs hotdogs gets the boot and now this. What the fcuk is going on? :( I am actually pretty choked the new owners of on the way gave Kev the Boot. I am never , ever buying anything from on-the-way ever again.
This is a huge shame. Kev was a big part of the Chilliwack fishing community. I hope the new owners go
bankrupt and I plan on telling them this
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Well, you DO know what all those aggressive spey fishers are compensating for when they wiggle and shake their large two-handers?
LOL'd hard
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This is a huge shame. Kev was a big part of the Chilliwack fishing community. I hope the new owners go
bankrupt and I plan on telling them this
X2 .... a huge shame indeed
Kev is one of the nicest guys. He was always cheerful and made a great dog..... and the best fries.
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X2 .... a huge shame indeed
Kev is one of the nicest guys. He was always cheerful and made a great dog..... and the best fries.
Kev is the true hero of the Mid-Upper CV (https://imageshack.com/a/img924/3545/R0unp1.png)
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I was out again today started at KWB and worked the canal pretty hard and found a school of resting fish and killed it on some white springs with my double hander- super fun once I went with a heavier tippet. cycled back up to hopedale towards the end of the day. lots of people out and the odd fish here and there.
1st Kevs hotdogs gets the boot and now this. What the fcuk is going on? :( I am actually pretty choked the new owners of on the way gave Kev the Boot. I am never , ever buying anything from on-the-way ever again.
Nice! Going to fish the pin a little more but going to go with the double handers more this year.
But it's good to hear that at least some people are getting into fish.
Your telling me! When I heard about Kev getting the boot I was shocked, super nice guy and always fun to talk with, but I am not surprised honestly with the new owners....
But I've heard of complaints in the past about how some people had parked their vehicles in that spot and it blocked some of the local horse riding users and cyclists, but emergency vehicles is a big one and that isn't good.
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Three observations from my fishing yesterday:
1. Holy moly has the lower river changed. I wanted to check out Peach road at first light and all the previous easily accessible holes are gone. More footwork is ahead of me on the lower river for sure.
2. When did the upper river become gang territory? Some wonderful person has decided to spray-paint some cryptic graffiti on the cement slab and nearby rocks. I forgot to take a picture - anyone know when this happened? Really makes it feel like you are fishing in a warzone, even though I was the only person there! Stopped at a couple spots on my way downstream and saw more spraypaint and considerable ax damage to several large cedars along the river.
3. Are the "no parking" signs new at Osborne road, or were those put there last year?
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Three observations from my fishing yesterday:
1. Holy moly has the lower river changed. I wanted to check out Peach road at first light and all the previous easily accessible holes are gone. More footwork is ahead of me on the lower river for sure.
2. When did the upper river become gang territory? Some wonderful person has decided to spray-paint some cryptic graffiti on the cement slab and nearby rocks. I forgot to take a picture - anyone know when this happened? Really makes it feel like you are fishing in a warzone, even though I was the only person there! Stopped at a couple spots on my way downstream and saw more spraypaint and considerable ax damage to several large cedars along the river.
3. Are the "no parking" signs new at Osborne road, or were those put there last year?
Happens every summer when the 16-yr old get to go on car camping trips without parents for the first time. They get into some alcohol and then become campsite super-heros. Can't go camping without spray paint to tag everything. Well then the axe is meant to chop wood right? Get a little alcohol into a a young punk, find an axe and suddenly you have a rampaging wannabe lumberjack. They grow out of it, people say.
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Happens every summer when the 16-yr old get to go on car camping trips without parents for the first time. They get into some alcohol and then become campsite super-heros. Can't go camping without spray paint to tag everything. Well then the axe is meant to chop wood right? Get a little alcohol into a a young punk, find an axe and suddenly you have a rampaging wannabe lumberjack. They grow out of it, people say.
Well, you did. And so did I. Most of us do.
Most of those who don't eventually end up with a fentanyl overdose in some back alley.
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Happens every summer when the 16-yr old get to go on car camping trips without parents for the first time. They get into some alcohol and then become campsite super-heros. Can't go camping without spray paint to tag everything. Well then the axe is meant to chop wood right? Get a little alcohol into a a young punk, find an axe and suddenly you have a rampaging wannabe lumberjack. They grow out of it, people say.
Pretty much sums up my first few non supervised camping trips as a teen. Minus the spray paint. Boy I must have been a sight lol
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Had a few hamburgers at the "By The Way" hot dog stand this summer, always good conversation from Kevin and the locals sitting out front. Bummer.
Seems like the whole upper river is squatters, garbage and feces. Sad.
Peach road is a whole different world now.
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New owners bought On the Way store? That place was for sale for a long time. Out with old and in with the new. Hopefully a major reno and a new store. Some eye candy serving up burgers and fries perhaps?
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I grew up like most of us camping and fishing right on the river. All the way to the boundary. Those were good days. I was in favor when the Schitty blocked camping access on the banks. There was the odd drinking fight and other late night nonsense. However. Squatters, open drug use, stolen property, trash and human waste is allowed ? Maybe we should get the mayor of Abbotsford to dump some chicken my smelly socks in Chilliwack.
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Peach road is a whole different world now.
I was shocked when I saw that channel completely change at Peach.
Peach is always prone to changes year after year. We still need the first real real sustained dump of heavy rain and peach will change again. The way it looks now, it seems like the main run will be cut wider and the tail out will feed more water to the left channel instead of the right.
thats a shame, that right side suuuper deep slot was a honey hole for a number of years right beside the trail ha
What ever man, changing river dynamics is all part of the fun!!!
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Sorry guys, little late to the game this season. I've posted the usual basic info for new anglers and restart the thread at:
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=42326.0
Please continue there.