Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: sean on October 23, 2004, 01:36:26 PM
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when curing roe is using a brine optional.
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What do you mean by brine??? There are some cures that use liquid...is that what you mean? I have never used a cure on skein roe (opposed to single eggs) that uses a brine. Just powder...borax or procure does the trick.
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Hey Sean, I could be wrong, but you may be confusing fresh water bait with salt water bait preperation.
You need to brine herring, anchovies, etc for use in saltwater.
You don't need to (as far as I know...) brine roe. You just dry it out a bit and cake it in borax.
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rods recipe suggest a brine then dry then borax
thnks for info, dry and borax sound like the way to go
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There used to be some info here ::)
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u dont need any brine to cure roe.. just buy yourself some pro cure and read the instruction and u will have killer roe!
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Ya, just like everyone else.
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pro cure works plain and simple. My dad an I were chuckin spoons in a tail out today and a guy snuck in on us and went to the head of the pool to fish some bait. he was there for 45 minutes and not a sniff. I asked him what type of bait he was using. He reply fresh boraxed coho roe...the chunk I later found on the ground looked nice.
IN 20 minutes I had 5 takes and 2 fish (both hatch) to the beach on double red procure. Color does make a difference.
In terms of prep I find that it is critical to air dry the roe before AND after curing it. Air drying them seem to help lock in the moisture and stop the eggs from bleeding.
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thanks for the info
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you can do either. even on the procure instructions, they give you the option of the dry or brine method. both are effective, the difference is, the brine method toughens the roe a little bit more (good for fast water) and takes a bit longer to do.
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I didnt say that I doesnt work, just that everyone uses it.
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killed a nice chrome chum full of lose juicy eggs and i want to make roe sacks out of it
so i soke it in water or a water salt solution and then ?
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Procure dry or brine or borax or borax and Kool-aid. Procure is basically borax with colour. Some people will brine the roe with equal parts of salt and sugar and then store in borax. The bottom line with roe is the smell from the "bleeding" roe along with the colour (added or not) does the trick. Try adding smelly jelly to your lures if your not using roe.
If you haven't done it before, buy procure and follow the instructions (buy pink for your first time).
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Downsize your avitar
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Souldn't have been that big :o I'm working on it!
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Procure is basically borax with colour.
actually its not. you can buy procure, with or without borax.
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Noted ;)
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in cutting the roe into loonie size pieces,do i cut the sackin half before i cut to smaller pieces or what do i do ??? ??? ??? this is my first time i triedto do my own roe. i need help.
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Cut the skein lengthwise, then cut into chunks, take the chunks and cut them into bait size. Make sure you include the membrane.
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Its better if u let your roe air dry till tackey(sp) cut pieces in chucks put them in a ice cream bucket and add procure or borax then every 30 - 1 hour shake everything around. i keep the juice in there cause overnite they will take back all the juices they released. hope it helps :)
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looking more for information on how to cure single eggs for making roe sacs
thks
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i am curing some single eggs up right now using the salt water solution. I heard you make a salt water solution with fresh water and as much salt as you can get to dissolve in the water. Then keep the eggs in this tyill you tie up roe sacs.
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Leave the eggs in the solution overnight. Then throw away the water. Keep the eggs in a container in the fridge til you are ready to tie the roe bags.
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I just yesterday did up a nice batch of doggy berries for the impending steel season. Run cold tap water over the eggs for about 3 or so hours. Then, dump the eggs into a supersaturated salt brine (enough coarse salt that 1/4" settles to the bottom of the container) so that the brine completely drowns the eggs. Put that in the fridge, and leave there until required. Do NOT drain, the salt is a great preservative, and you'll be amazed how long they'll last!! Little rubber ball bearings that if flicked at the wall, just might come back and take your eye out, but still full of great juice as any tooth that hits it soon discovers. They bite and won't let go!
Cheers,
Nog
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does the salt brine toughen the shell of the eggs because mine are plump,firm but pop easy and are hard ti tie without breaking?
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Yours are not dry enough. I cut my skeens into bait size chunks (about the size of a loonie. I lay them on newspaper and coat them in borax or a borax/koolaid mix and let air dry over night. Then I pack them in a 500ml dairyland container or in a zip-lock, covered with new borax. On the river, I will cut them in 1/2 or 1/4 and place them on the hook.
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Listen to the "NOG", he knows...BTW...the boys' new rod... broken in quite nicely, thank you!;D
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all the chum eggs are lose no skeen
used some coho roe in chunks tied up some sacs worked well however these eggs are singles and
pop easy. my question is is there a way to toghen the shell so there not so fragile?
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does the salt brine toughen the shell of the eggs because mine are plump,firm but pop easy and are hard ti tie without breaking?
Eventually, the salt will toughen the single eggs somewhat, what you missed was the water hardening stage. By running cold water over them for 3-4 hours, they harden sufficiently, then add the brine. Another neat trick is to fertilize the eggs (ethical borderline!!) - simply strip the singles from a ripe hen (gently & NOT all!!), then strip some milt in from a ripe buck (again gently and not all) letting the contributors go to do what nature intended with the balance of their load. Then treat as I noted above. Unfertile eggs have but a single wall between their insides and the world, fertilizing doubles that. The former milk well, but are more fragile/lose colour quickly - usually good for but a handfull of casts. The latter don't milk nearly as well, but are damn tough, clor lasts and will last on the hook dozens upon dozens of casts. Best bet is to mix one or two non-fertile BB's in with a few fertile for the best of both worlds (or for absolute killer, a SMALL piece of skein in the bait loop ahead of a roe bag ;))
Thanks for the back-pat geo! 'Preciated!!
Good Luck & Tight Lines...
Nog
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thks