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Title: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: lucky on August 08, 2009, 12:03:03 PM
Headed over to the beach to this morning to meet up with troutbreath for some kayak coho fishing. As I finished my coffee waiting for a little more light fish could be seen jumping all along the beach.

As the sun came up over the trees lots of people started showing up in boats and on shore, for the next two hours I fished hard but only saw one dogfish caught by one of the other anglers. At this point I decided to take a break and headed for shore. While I was on shore troutbreath showed up and I asked him if he could show me how its done.

Well sure enough troutbreath hits the water and in no time he is into a fish, a nice pink which he releases. A short time later he is into another fish, this time a wild coho which is sent back on its way.
Out of all the other anglers troutbreath is the only one to touch a fish so far so I paddle over to get the scoop, he gives me some advice and lends me one of his buzzbombs.

After tying on the new buzzbomb I am into a fish but it quickly comes undone. Troutbreath is content catching his fish and decided to call it a day, I decided to stick around to try and get rid of the skunk.

It was around 10:30 and I was thinking about heading home when the rod bends over, after a nice battle my first pink of the year is in the net and I'm on my way home.

(http://thumb0.webshots.net/t/55/555/6/46/68/2501646680099123620qMUVfa_th.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2501646680099123620qMUVfa)

Lots of fish showing today but they were pretty tight lipped as I only saw three caught all morning.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: Rodney on August 08, 2009, 12:11:58 PM
Very nice... I guess you are taking home the "earliest caught pink" award. ;D

Maybe I'll get up early this week... :-\
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: one more cast on August 08, 2009, 12:14:04 PM
That's a nice size fish...nice going.

So. what's the technique you were shown by Troutbreath and was it a pink buzzbomb?

All the same, you should be into more fish now that you were given good advice.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: Fish Assassin on August 08, 2009, 12:17:56 PM
I was out earlier in the week and spotted 3 pinks surfacing. Managed to land a 5 3/4 lb. coho on a Krocodile. They're coming....
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: lucky on August 08, 2009, 12:20:16 PM
The fish were caught on white buzz bombs with a blue stripe, and I can attest they work! As far as techniques go jigging the buzzbomb up off bottom seemed to work way better than just casting and retrieving.

And troutbreath gets the first pink prize as he caught his hours before me.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: one more cast on August 08, 2009, 12:31:01 PM
Thanks Lucky, I haven't seen white buzzbombs lately...just pearl colour...will look out for them.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: Fish Assassin on August 08, 2009, 01:12:03 PM
Thanks Lucky, I haven't seen white buzzbombs lately...just pearl colour...will look out for them.

Look for the "polar bear" buzz bombs
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: firstlight on August 08, 2009, 06:57:09 PM
Id take that fish to dinner anytime.
Very nice.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: dennisK on August 08, 2009, 07:15:16 PM
. A short time later he is into another fish, this time a wild coho which is sent back on its way.

(http://thumb0.webshots.net/t/55/555/6/46/68/2501646680099123620qMUVfa_th.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2501646680099123620qMUVfa)

 

aren't all coho keepable in the salt?
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: Rodney on August 08, 2009, 07:39:00 PM
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/tidal-maree/a-s28-eng.htm#Salmon
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: HOOK on August 08, 2009, 07:52:55 PM
maybe i should have posted the pic of a pink i got 2 weeks ago  ::) I also got a load of them on Friday morning as did basically everyone around me  ;D ;D even a couple springs tossed into the mix (caught by the same guy oddly enough)
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: Britguy on August 08, 2009, 08:07:01 PM
I was out today at a beach with the fly rod

not too many fish but lots of fishermen
I got there at 4.50am and i could not beleive how many people were there allready (well it was Saturday)
The water was greenish grey color
some fish were showing but not many
I will try again on Monday and Tuesday

I was at another beach on Friday and the guys in the boats were nailing them
they were all jigging one guy got a big spring
guys on the shore did not do to well
lots of jumpers but tight lipped
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: lucky on August 08, 2009, 08:19:29 PM
maybe i should have posted the pic of a pink i got 2 weeks ago  ::) I also got a load of them on Friday morning as did basically everyone around me  ;D ;D even a couple springs tossed into the mix (caught by the same guy oddly enough)

Relax buddy I didnt actually get a prize for the first pink it wasn't a competition just a joke, and yes others have caught pinks already but I don't remember seeing any pictures?

And yes you should have posted a pic as well as a report, we could use more of that around here as there are too many people who just like to lurk and make snide remarks.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: Rodney on August 08, 2009, 08:29:23 PM
I can always put together a little prize for Hook if it helps to prevent his eyes from rolling to the back of his head...
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: troutbreath on August 08, 2009, 09:27:36 PM
Round 2 tomorrow and I can't wait as usual. Wind in your face. Fish jumping almost into the boat. How can you not like it. If anyone else is interested in the Kayak Koho Klinic maybe we should get this thing going.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: DionJL on August 08, 2009, 09:45:20 PM
possible to take a Pontoon out there? And by "there" i mean wherever you were fishing, because I have no idea. LOL
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: Fishin_Squirrel10-4 on August 08, 2009, 10:41:58 PM
 :o that pinks got a big tail, way bigger than the pinks we have up here. catch like 20 pinks in an hour here but thats a nice pink. it's traveled a great distance to die in your hands. Excellent!  :D
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: fishyfish on August 08, 2009, 11:02:28 PM
What are you allowed to use when fishing for pinks along West Van/Cap with your buzz bomb? Single or treble? Barbless? Thank you.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: Rodney on August 08, 2009, 11:08:15 PM
What are you allowed to use when fishing for pinks along West Van/Cap with your buzz bomb? Single or treble? Barbless? Thank you.

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/tidal-maree/a-s28-eng.htm#Salmon
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: fishyfish on August 08, 2009, 11:19:16 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but it looks like single barbless. Catch limit of (4) as I believe we would be in subarea 28-7.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: HOOK on August 08, 2009, 11:44:42 PM
apparently you guys didnt notice i was joking, and here i thought that smileys were supposed to help with such things as sarcasm and such. Oh and i dont really post reports anymore after i had to many whine about it as though im bragging about catching fish all the time  ::) ::) ::) So now i guess im part lurker/part info giver/part info stealer  ;)
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: one more cast on August 09, 2009, 12:12:05 AM
Hey HOOK...makes sense to me :D
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: Rodney on August 09, 2009, 12:41:42 AM
Correct me if I am wrong but it looks like single barbless. Catch limit of (4) as I believe we would be in subarea 28-7.

Yes, 4 pink salmon per day in 28-7. Daily quota depends on species and sub areas of area 28, for those who are interested in fishing this area, read through that entire page first.

Treble barbless is allowed for salmon fishing, but there are area exceptions where only single barbless is allowed. See that page.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: fishyfish on August 09, 2009, 01:48:43 AM
    * It is prohibited to use more than two single-pointed hooks in tandem (as when fishing with bait) in the waters of Burrard Inlet near the mouth of the Capilano River from the 14 St. Pier to Prospect Light on the seawall of Stanley Park to the north tower of the Lions Gate Bridge. Each hook must have a single point that measures no greater than 15 mm between the point and shank of the hook.



Is this basically East of the boat launch?
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: Rodney on August 09, 2009, 02:02:30 AM
That regulation is for finfish other than salmon.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: ja on August 09, 2009, 08:40:58 AM
I'm starting to feel that those regulations were written by lawyers.  Sheesh it's difficult to get a clear understanding of what's allowed and not in certain areas. From my reading, the limit is two hatchery Coho and four Pinks at Cates Park and treble barbless hooks are allowed.

Is that what others read for the Cates park area too? 

Thanks all... :)
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on August 09, 2009, 09:43:14 AM
apparently you guys didnt notice i was joking, and here i thought that smileys were supposed to help with such things as sarcasm and such. Oh and i dont really post reports anymore after i had to many whine about it as though im bragging about catching fish all the time  ::) ::) ::) So now i guess im part lurker/part info giver/part info stealer  ;)

Really? So you were joking when you tried to insinuate that Rodney had live fish in a bucket when they were clearly dead? From reading what you post lately it seems you are just trying to pick on certain people. When you use the rolleyes it does not come across as joking it comes across as being a smartass.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: fishyfish on August 09, 2009, 11:04:04 AM
I'm starting to feel that those regulations were written by lawyers.  Sheesh it's difficult to get a clear understanding of what's allowed and not in certain areas. From my reading, the limit is two hatchery Coho and four Pinks at Cates Park and treble barbless hooks are allowed.



Thank you Ja. My thoughts exactly. I am going to use single barbless everywhere when using buzz bombs etc. I sure wish those regs. were written in such a way that from a northern most point to a southern most point to an easternmost point when fishing for finfish other than salmon which isn't allowed unless it is not rockcod or lingcod it would be more clear when you could or could not use barb or barbless single or treble barbless or barbed hooks. I will try to fish in 49ー20.700誰 to 49ー20.750誰 to 49ー20.350誰 to 49ー20.100誰 but it may be difficult since I don't own a gps.  :'( ;) ;)
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: Rodney on August 09, 2009, 03:48:01 PM
Thank you Ja. My thoughts exactly. I am going to use single barbless everywhere when using buzz bombs etc. I sure wish those regs. were written in such a way that from a northern most point to a southern most point to an easternmost point when fishing for finfish other than salmon which isn't allowed unless it is not rockcod or lingcod it would be more clear when you could or could not use barb or barbless single or treble barbless or barbed hooks. I will try to fish in 49ー20.700誰 to 49ー20.750誰 to 49ー20.350誰 to 49ー20.100誰 but it may be difficult since I don't own a gps.  :'( ;) ;)

Fishing regulations are indeed quite complicated to read in this province, but there have been vast improvement on ways to simply these for recreational fishermen in recent years. From a more positive perspective, they are complicated because we still have so much and diversed resource to manage. In other countries, only a few general rules are needed simply because there are very few fish to manage in the first place. The local Sportfishing Advisory Committees (in this case, the Lower Fraser group group and Squamish/Whistler group) meet with DFO twice per year as well as conference calls when needed during the fishing season. These groups represent anglers and express concerns such as this to DFO so improvements can be made. How to deliver fishery notices and regulations to anglers is a big challenge for DFO and there are constant discussions on how they can do it better. Simplifying the language is needed, less variations in gear restriction are needed. Sometimes discrepancy in gear regulations is a result of differences between angling groups. Some group do not wish to see the elimination of one type of gear so at times compromises result when regulations are established.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: FlyFishin Magician on August 10, 2009, 07:45:28 AM
Agreed.  Hook is a good guy and he can almost cast as well as I can without hitting the guy next to him... ;D ;D ;D.  Not only has he got a pug to boot, but the young fella has a little baby boy at home too.  Back to the local beach scene.  Nice photo Lucky - those pinks are chrome bars!  Hopefully the Fraser system will fill up with them soon!
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: kingpin on August 10, 2009, 08:18:44 PM
Agreed.  Hook is a good guy and he can almost cast as well as I can without hitting the guy next to him... ;D ;D ;D.  Not only has he got a pug to boot, but the young fella has a little baby boy at home too.  Back to the local beach scene.  Nice photo Lucky - those pinks are chrome bars!  Hopefully the Fraser system will fill up with them soon!

you almost had me believing you until you said he had a pug.... :D
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: adriaticum on August 10, 2009, 08:34:37 PM
What are you allowed to use when fishing for pinks along West Van/Cap with your buzz bomb? Single or treble? Barbless? Thank you.

Say if you used single barbless hooks anywhere you fished in BC, you'd never be wrong.
It's easy.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: HOOK on August 10, 2009, 10:42:47 PM
hey wait a second FFM i WAS the guy you were almost hitting with your cast   :o and was i not casting out the entire line on your friends rod ?? well i had a couple turns of line left until backing on a Rio Versa tip line (overall line length 100feet) Im not trying to brag but now you own the same rod and understand its a cannon  ;D but super light in hand. KP - whats wrong with owning a Pug ?? its still a mans dog especially with the attitude mine has  ;)

I kinda wish i wasnt taking off this weekend because i would really like to catch me some more pinks but the trout are calling me away  ;D ;D


and about the fish in the bucket....Did i not ask if some were alive ?? I dont remember stating they were for sure. I have seen alive course fish in buckets laying upside down so i thought the ones with their gills partly open were breathing. Im only human and am allowed to be wrong from time to time  ;)
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: Stratocaster on August 11, 2009, 08:47:34 AM
Yes I can attest to the fact that you were ducking whenever FFM casted.  Glad you liked my Sage, too bad I couldn't cast as well as you guys could with it.  I think I need some professional help with my flycasting.  Kind of a neat fishery though.  The only drawback is rinsing off all your gear and clothing throughly afterwards to get the saltwater off.  FFM's front lawn looked like a Fly Shop when we got home.
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: FlyFishin Magician on August 11, 2009, 12:27:04 PM
LOL - it was the wind!  OK - I was a bit fatigued as well from casting that heavy rod two days in a row.  We were probably a bit close also - but all is well.  Yeah - rinsing off everything is important!   ;)
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: fishyfish on August 11, 2009, 01:22:33 PM
Say if you used single barbless hooks anywhere you fished in BC, you'd never be wrong.
It's easy.


That is true you would never get into any kind of trouble with the law. If you get to fish as seldom as I do and catch as few fish as I do you need to make sure you are using the most effective means within the law. Looking for the most effective, law abiding way not the easy way!
Title: Re: West Vancouver, August 8th 2009
Post by: 420247 on August 11, 2009, 05:16:24 PM
Say if you used single barbless hooks anywhere you fished in BC, you'd never be wrong.
It's easy.


That is true you would never get into any kind of trouble with the law. If you get to fish as seldom as I do and catch as few fish as I do you need to make sure you are using the most effective means within the law. Looking for the most effective, law abiding way not the easy way!

if you cant continuously land fish on a single barbless hook you just need more practice..... so what if you lose 1 or 2... is it really even fun if your playing a fish with a treble or barbed hook? doesnt even give the fish a chance.....