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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Carich980 on November 19, 2011, 11:14:58 AM
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Just so guys know my truck and my friends car got broken into while out fishing today on the Yarrow side of lower, we were only away from the vehicles for about an hour early this morning between 715 to 815. It was someone who has done it before they must have a tool or a way to do it clean and quiet. Smashed the passenger windows and stole papers and anything with proximity of the glove box and console area without opening the doors at all. Cops said its been happening a lot there lately.
We both had nothing in there of value visible and they still smashed and grabbed.
On a lighter note while out fishing my guides on my spey rod kept icing up, Is there anything you can do or get other than just popping the ice cubes out?
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A little vasaline on the guides will help with that.
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try dry fly dressing or pam cooking spray
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I hope the RCMP nab these low lifes that are preying on fisherman. Won't be long until either they set up a bait car or someone catches them if they keep this up.
For iced up guides you should use Stanley's ice off paste by Loons Outdoors. This stuff works the best and it is safe on your fly line and rod guides. Just make sure to apply this stuff before you start fishing.
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Some of these kids can get into your locked car and start it without the key just as fast as you could with keys. Sad as it is, it will only get worse due to the increased drug activity in the area. Shitty for us because where we park are gold mines for these lowlifes.
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They did not throw a rock to smash the window. They jammed something on the side of the windows and the whole panel just cracked into pieces.
Based on this, these low lifes knows what they are doing.
As previously reported, we got broken into last weekend. Was going to go fishing today but changed our mind because of the breakins.
In the long run, this will hurt the local economy in Chilliwack. Less fishermen mean less money going into buying food, gas and tackles.
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They are using the samething that you would use to get out of your car in an emergency. It is a cheap tool that you can buy at any car shop.
Here is a picture of one.
(http://www.p-wholesale.com/upimg/17/150a1/emergency-window-hammer-839.jpg)
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I hope the RCMP nab these low lifes that are preying on fisherman. Won't be long until either they set up a bait car or someone catches them if they keep this up.
Can't be soon enough
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They did not throw a rock to smash the window. They jammed something on the side of the windows and the whole panel just cracked into pieces.
Based on this, these low lifes knows what they are doing.
Most likely used the ceramic tip of a spark plug. Shatters glass with little noise...
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Unfortunately these break ins have been going on for years now on the Chilliwack Vedder and else where, they stop for a while as the thevies get caught, spend a few days in jail and back out to continue spoiling our fishing experience. Need tougher sentences.
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Need tougher sentences.
Yah. Like cutting off fingers. Marked as a thief for life then. ;)
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death penalty. Hang them
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the same thing happens down on the cheakamus a lot in the parking lots in the IR not a good scene at all
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get the rcmp to use these lowlifes for tazer practise ;D
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Re: Vedder Break in
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2011, 05:22:40 PM »
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They are using the samething that you would use .................
Ya let's show everyone a picture of what to use ???
Maybe that post should be deleted or edited.
Before anymore of the WRONG people are educated.
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Ya let's show everyone a picture of what to use ???
Maybe that post should be deleted or edited.
Before anymore of the WRONG people are educated.
Oh please get a grip, these criminals are far more educated in what to use and how to use it then anybody that visits this site.
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Oh please get a grip, these criminals are far more educated in what to use and how to use it then anybody that visits this site.
So true. When they do get caught and go to jail it's like school for them. They'll learn more efficient ways to commit crime.
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Oh please get a grip, these criminals are far more educated in what to use and how to use it then anybody that visits this site.
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Ya let's show everyone a picture of what to use ???
Maybe that post should be deleted or edited.
Before anymore of the WRONG people are educated.
As much as I understand where you are coming from, those things arent a secret. They arent even specialty items anymore. Walmart has them. So if it was an unheard of method or tool, I would agree with you. But its well known to many and easily available.
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As much as I understand where you are coming from, those things arent a secret. They arent even specialty items anymore. Walmart has them. So if it was an unheard of method or tool, I would agree with you. But its well known to many and easily available.
That's right. Anyone who drives off road or in the bush around water should have a belt cutter/window punch like that within reach of their drivers seat.
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I hôpe I get my limit on steelhead and lowlifes next weekend.... :-\
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Another web site refers to them as TDM. Thieving Druggie Misfit. Thats about sums it up.
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Get a few people together and park at the "bad" spots and just grab some coffee and sit n wait......ambush the "TDM's" and take out some vigilante justice!......willing to bet that they would be thinking twice about hitting the fishing areas once they know there is people possibly waiting in the bushes to "stop" them, lol.....or before you leave your vehicle wire the door handle to the battery somehow so that the person who rattles that door handle to see if its unlocked gets the shock of his life.......just don't forget to disconnect before you try to get in your own car!! lol
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Just so guys know my truck and my friends car got broken into while out fishing today on the Yarrow side of lower,
Sorry to hear about your break in, were you at the cable crossing (wilson)?
We were smashed there last weekend...
Cheers,
Nicole
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Oh please get a grip, these criminals are far more educated in what to use and how to use it then anybody that visits this site.
OK. perhaps I was a little melodramatic.
But don't be naive in thinking it's just the crack heads in town looking for change.
There are the opportunists as well, the ones who fish and...
Just because one has a passion for fishing doesn't exclude them from nefarious activity
I've come back to my car, went into the bush to relieve myself and watched a couple fishers ( they were fishing the same area as I) start to scope out the cars, as one started thier vehicle,
the other was looking into the cars and trucks and wasn't checking the upholstery.
Can I help You? I said.
Uh.....Uh....Just trying to find the time....
OK! Sorry! your buddy's truck has the time on the dash does it not? (newer model ford)
I'd add more but this is already too much fodder.
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I parked there a few years back and had a pack of about 40 homemade christmas cards (all I had in the vehicle) stolen that I was bringing back for my sister in law to kelowna. She has MS and it had taken her a LONG time to make all the cards for her friends and family.
She was heartbroken and the people that stole the cards probably just threw them in the trash.
Haven't fished the vedder since... not worth it when there are other places to go without all the drama.
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if these kinda of stuff goes on more, I have to park my car in the mall then take the taxi to the river...
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X2 for bait car vigilante justice.
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If the "vigilante justice" you're referring to involves violence, that would make you no better than those "lowlifes" committing crime in the first place. In fact, in the laws eyes, it's likely that you would be thought of worse, considering that aggravated assault can carry a ten year prison sentence.
More sever penalties and sentencing for those found guilty of these auto theft crimes? Absolutely.
Physically assaulting a person (even if that person has committed an offence)? Wrong.
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Make sure you got a got a crew with you and toss a bunch of rotten fish at them. A couple of stink pinks or zombie chum to the head should learn them. Not sure if it would classify as assault either?
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OK. perhaps I was a little melodramatic.
But don't be naive in thinking it's just the crack heads in town looking for change.
There are the opportunists as well, the ones who fish and...
Just because one has a passion for fishing doesn't exclude them from nefarious activity
I've come back to my car, went into the bush to relieve myself and watched a couple fishers ( they were fishing the same area as I) start to scope out the cars, as one started thier vehicle,
the other was looking into the cars and trucks and wasn't checking the upholstery.
Can I help You? I said.
Uh.....Uh....Just trying to find the time....
OK! Sorry! your buddy's truck has the time on the dash does it not? (newer model ford)
I'd add more but this is already too much fodder.
Yes, I've seen exactly the same thing. Fishermen checking out other cars in the parking lot.
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Yes, that would qualify as Assault With A Weapon.
Canadian Criminal Code Section 267 (Abuse Crimes)
http://www.cnpea.ca/abuse_crimes.htm
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Sorry to hear about your break in, were you at the cable crossing (wilson)?
We were smashed there last weekend...
Cheers,
Nicole
That seems to be a risky area. My car was broken into (rear window smashed) in that area back on Oct 31, 2003. I haven't parked there since...
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yeah you're right, just standing by and doing nothing while hundreds of people get their cars broken into every year at the vedder and while the polices hands are tied because they have no funding and no time to dedicate to catching these people is a much more ethical idea? let me guess, you must be a bigger man because you think every person can be re-habilated and all the goof cons in jails flooding our system are just victims of a poor social upbringing?
i didnt say i wanted to kill them, you just assumed that. but im sure you must have a much more ethical and safer means to solve the problem of having friend after friend of yours having their well earned goods smashed and stolen while they try and enjoy a simple day on the river with their family. please enlighten us all with your solution?
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Generally, you can get away w/ punching-out a druggie as long as their is no bleeding-heart witnesses. If it's just your word against his (& you wear gloves!), they lack credibility & follow-through ;)
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Whoa, grammar check: "there are no witnesses..." ;D
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100% you get away with it....I speak from experience, lol.........watched a dude with a "slim jim" tool trying to break into my truck at a lake in the Okanagan area......I ran up and bounced his head/face off the top of my door....instant KO.....had a schedule to keep so I called the cops, told them what happened and where, etc, etc and just left dude laying there when I drove off (2 other people were there as well and stayed and watched from a distance, but no idea what came of it).......cops took my info in case they needed to contact me further and I never heard from them on it again, lol (2010 fall).....not sure if they even came out and got the guy or not as it was a fair ways away from any detachment......would I do the same if I seen it happen again.....absolutely......probably would even still do it even if it was somebody else's vehicle.......of course only if I was sure they were breaking in to steal something rather than an owner who locked their keys in or similar, lol
Anyways, long story short, it didnt even come down to my word against his as I told the cops flat out exactly what happened and that I KO'd the guy and why and the cop literally laughed when I told him what I did, lol.......im sure technically the guy may have been able to file charges but wasn't going to happen considering the circumstances, lol.
HOWEVER....I dont recommend this type of vigilante justice unless you are willing to take the risk or are confident enough in yourself to handle the situation or any situation that could arise out of it! ;D
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100% you get away with it....I speak from experience, lol.........watched a dude with a "slim jim" tool trying to break into my truck at a lake in the Okanagan area......I ran up and bounced his head/face off the top of my door....instant KO.....had a schedule to keep so I called the cops, told them what happened and where, etc, etc and just left dude laying there when I drove off (2 other people were there as well and stayed and watched from a distance, but no idea what came of it).......cops took my info in case they needed to contact me further and I never heard from them on it again, lol (2010 fall).....not sure if they even came out and got the guy or not as it was a fair ways away from any detachment......would I do the same if I seen it happen again.....absolutely......probably would even still do it even if it was somebody else's vehicle.......of course only if I was sure they were breaking in to steal something rather than an owner who locked their keys in or similar, lol
Anyways, long story short, it didnt even come down to my word against his as I told the cops flat out exactly what happened and that I KO'd the guy and why and the cop literally laughed when I told him what I did, lol.......im sure technically the guy may have been able to file charges but wasn't going to happen considering the circumstances, lol.
HOWEVER....I dont recommend this type of vigilante justice unless you are willing to take the risk or are confident enough in yourself to handle the situation or any situation that could arise out of it! ;D
Good on you. And it is a good story. I guess you are at least 6'6 ;D
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lmao, nope, 5'10 180lb.......just that I don't care who you are or how big you are as that does not dictate your reaction to someone running up behind you to rattle your noggin off the vehicle you are trying to break into, LOL.....if anything, the bigger the guy the slower his reaction time....not to mention the old saying....the bigger they are the harder they fall ;). (the guy in question was however about the same size as myself....not that it would have changed my reaction either way though).....now on that same note, had this not gone as planned (not that there was really any real "plan" in the first place though, lol) and the guy turned on me or something then I may have had to resort to a nut or knee kick or throat punch, lol....dont care how big you are then. ;)
OR I could have very well just as easily bit off more that I could chew and he could have laid a whoopin on me and left me there......hence why I dont recommend these actions to others unless you are confident enough in yourself and abilities to be able to handle any situation that could arise out of it!.
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Atta boy ;D I've had similar situations: you just wink @ the officer & say, "he fell down."
Of course, not recommended, but fun...
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Even after a beating these scum will still come back and steal your stuff so it's kinda pointless other then making you feel good.
Personally I couldn't touch a scumbag as I would feel dirty and violated for weeks :P
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Personally I couldn't touch a scumbag as I would feel dirty and violated for weeks :P
You will find plenty among us who will gladly volunteer to do the dirty deed.
I found a scumbag red-handed in my truck once.
I can't give you details, but I am quite sure he will never enter our building's underground parking again. >:(
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Even after a beating these scum will still come back and steal your stuff so it's kinda pointless other then making you feel good.
I disagree partially with this......pretty sure that if/when these scum know that there is a maniac out there aqt certain spots bouncing their heads off the vehicles that they would think twice about trying to hit that spot again!!.....granted yes they would probably just move on to a new spot but im sure they would be a lot more worried, prone to make mistakes when they are constantly looking over their shoulders for "that guy" that they ran into last time! lol ;D
But yes, you are correct in that it does indeed make one feel damn good knowing that he has stopped his vehicle from getting broke into and caused bodily harm to the person who tried! ;D......quite sure that the guy I was talking about would not bother going back to that place again and/or would not even think about hitting a place that my truck was parked at should he recognize it!
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I disagree partially with this......pretty sure that if/when these scum know that there is a maniac out there aqt certain spots bouncing their heads off the vehicles that they would think twice about trying to hit that spot again!!.....granted yes they would probably just move on to a new spot but im sure they would be a lot more worried, prone to make mistakes when they are constantly looking over their shoulders for "that guy" that they ran into last time! lol ;D
But yes, you are correct in that it does indeed make one feel damn good knowing that he has stopped his vehicle from getting broke into and caused bodily harm to the person who tried! ;D......quite sure that the guy I was talking about would not bother going back to that place again and/or would not even think about hitting a place that my truck was parked at should he recognize it!
I will take extra caution when going back to the place if I were you. Someone might want to get some revenge on you. >:(
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I will take extra caution when going back to the place if I were you. Someone might want to get some revenge on you. >:(
I think it would be him that would need to take the extra caution if he chose to come back to that place again and I was there......or any other place for that matter ;)
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99% of the time a police officer in that situation would just laugh and not waste their time. the beating you gave him is way worse than if they were to arrest him and much less paper work. Plus, sometimes people forget, but cops are just like us to. They know what goes on in areas, you dont think they wish they could just beat the cupcakes outta some of the pieces of cupcakes they run into? You guys have no idea how much it pisses you off when you catch someone breaking the law, respond, catch them red handed, risk your personal safety arresting the sometimes strung out junkies with nothing to lose, all to just have a judge say," you are a victim of your social surroundings. Time served, no fine, no further jail time." It makes you think what the hell am i doing my job for when these bleeding hart judges just left these scumbags off scott-free to break the law, over and over again until one day when they have amassed enough petty charges or the media catches wind of their previous offence records and the public demands action, a judge actually does something about it and gives him the Canadian justice system allowance, of 30 days in remand. Our law system is a joke. It is set up so that good law abiding citizens are forced to either sit idly by becoming victims of property crime and assaults, or they can get fed up and take matters into your own hands.
Not saying i recommend it, but if you do, just remember, and this is a fact, as long as you don't pummel the cupcakes out of the guy you catch, no cop in his right mind is going to take any action against you. In fact, they will most likely not even bother coming out, because they know what you did to him is much more deserving than anything they can do. It is truly sad when our government forces us to re-act this way to petty crime.
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Well said...
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One thing I havent seen mentioned here is, do not leave anything valuble in your viehicle and keep it locked.In all the yrs ive parked alongside the Vedder to fish,only once was i broken into because i was dumb enough to leave a spare rod/reel in my truck.Since then i leave nothing of value in my truck.Thieves are looking for something of value in a quick smash and dash.Cheers
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One thing I havent seen mentioned here is, do not leave anything valuble in your viehicle and keep it locked.In all the yrs ive parked alongside the Vedder to fish,only once was i broken into because i was dumb enough to leave a spare rod/reel in my truck.Since then i leave nothing of value in my truck.Thieves are looking for something of value in a quick smash and dash.Cheers
Nothing beats a thief better than not having anything available to steal.
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Nothing beats a thief better than not having anything available to steal.
I'll try to remember that for come upance next time I have to deal with deductable for a smashed window, the cleaning up of the broken glass, the wasted time at the glass shop, the long, windy drive home...
That'll teach 'em.
Don't leave anything visible but that won't neccessarily stop anything.
Just be aware and .........
do what you have to do.
911, big sticks,.......... ;)
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By far my worst experience was having to literally watch theifs walk over to my vehicle, scope it out and then break the window (rolley lake 8 years ago)...watched it all from the lovely confines of my float tube 300 yards off of shore! I just kicked out in my belly boat, see a car pull into the lot, guy stands at front as watchout, another dude picks up a rock and smashes the window, I guess my yelling at them and my alarm made them work extra quick and they were in and out in literally 15 or 20 seconds....Luckily they couldn't get into my trunk where my over thousand dollar stereo was and they didn't get anything, but man what a kick in the junk that was... I can laugh about it now, but at the time it was about as mad as I've been in my life!
I agree tho best to not leave literally anything visible or at all for theifs or potential theifs in the vehicle. I've recently gone as far as taking my insurance papers with me and leaving all compartments open with nothing inside at all. It may not stop all break ins, but atleast I know when I'm out fishing there's nothing for them to take. Keep in mind all it takes is a receipt or any peice of paper lying around for one of these creatures to wonder what it is and smash a window. even a couple pennies in the cup holder is asking for it...unfortunately at the end of the day there really is not much we can do about it besides not giving them the opportunity to take something you worked for. Windows can be replaced, sentimental rods,or quipment is much harder to replace. Not to mention personal information theifs can use for identity theif or whatever...
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had my front door lock punched out, in the lickman rd parking lot today. nothing was stolen because there was nothing to steal in it oh well it's just frustrating.
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What time did the break in occurred Farky? I parked there today at Lickman rd. parking lot. Had no problems.
Silex-user
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Some time between 10 and 4.
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Have the RCMP been emplored to put in a bait wagon? ...not that much would happen to them once caught, sadly.
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Fresh pile of window glass observed on the dyke Saturday afternoon between Keith Wilson Bridge and the Salwein gravel pit.
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Are these douchebags just hitting the lower flow or are they upriver as well?
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Seems to be mostly Lower,
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This however won't stop me from fishing there anymore, i will just use it as an excuse to ride the old dusty bike. ;)
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Have the RCMP been emplored to put in a bait wagon? ...not that much would happen to them once caught, sadly.
This is what happens when we allow judges to be social engineers. We must demand that we have judges sentence people under very specific guidelines and they are to be held accountable for the results of their actions, as would any other professional. When do you ever see a judges or JP's name and face in the media? we hear lots about the descision but no identity, perhaps if they were seen in the social light ,they would be less likly to be as leanient on the scum. They are our employees!
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had my front door lock punched out, in the lickman rd parking lot today. nothing was stolen because there was nothing to steal in it oh well it's just frustrating.
I never lock my doors, never leave anything in the car (except in the locked trunk), and use an alarm with ignition disable. No broken glass so far...
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First time i have ever had it happen to me, so like you said from now on nothing in the car period. From now on the doors are open.nothing in the trunk either as all they would have to do is hit the button. Even carry the insurance papers in my wallet , the car has a passive immobilizer from the factory,plus the bright side of that is you will never lock yourself out of your car.
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This is what happens when we allow judges to be social engineers. We must demand that we have judges sentence people under very specific guidelines and they are to be held accountable for the results of their actions, as would any other professional. When do you ever see a judges or JP's name and face in the media? we hear lots about the descision but no identity, perhaps if they were seen in the social light ,they would be less likly to be as leanient on the scum. They are our employees!
It might be fun to see judges having to be elected as in the U.S....certainly more accountability I think. I particularly like the work of 'Maximum Bob' :-)