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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tylsie on August 23, 2018, 04:59:24 PM

Title: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: Tylsie on August 23, 2018, 04:59:24 PM
I am curious what everyone else is finding, or if what I experienced was just a fluke. With 3 families and a few friends wanting socks it was just easier and financially smarter to go and buy them from the commercials. Out of the 30 fish I got only 4 were males. Was this just a weird coincidence and his nets just got into a school of females (do they school up by sex?); or has anyone else experienced this?
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: Easywater on August 23, 2018, 06:54:17 PM
I believe that the males return first - that's the way I've seen for pinks but it may be different for sockeye.

You may be seeing the tail end of the early run as the Adams run may be just starting to stage.

I bought some commercial fish the other day and I don't like the fact that they aren't bled.
Make for a bit of extra work cleaning the fish to get rid of the blood.
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: Hike_and_fish on August 23, 2018, 07:02:39 PM
It's almost even with me. Slightly more males tho
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: jeetS on August 23, 2018, 07:16:13 PM
Out of 40 fish id say about 5 were female for me
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: Rieber on August 23, 2018, 07:49:16 PM
Out of 40 fish id say about 5 were female for me

40 - wow. Well done. I miss stacking away that much sockeye in years past. Nice to have socks once or twice a week.
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: fishingwithjohn on August 23, 2018, 11:14:31 PM
40? must be fishing the ocean right...because 16 days since the opening x2 limit...everyone should have at most 32 fish lol  :P
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: CohoJake on August 23, 2018, 11:20:02 PM
Well, I don't have quite those numbers, but all 8 of mine have been male, and 6/8 for my dad, so that makes 1/8 female for us so far.  But yes, I assumed it was because we caught the early part of the run, and females return later.  Hopefully the commercial net size doesn't favor females this year . . .
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: dave c on August 24, 2018, 03:56:13 AM
40? must be fishing the ocean right...because 16 days since the opening x2 limit...everyone should have at most 32 fish lol  :P
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Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: Rieber on August 24, 2018, 06:50:52 AM
40? must be fishing the ocean right...because 16 days since the opening x2 limit...everyone should have at most 32 fish lol  :P

Oh come on - he didn't say how many people were involved in catching. Heck, even if he took his kid, dad or wife a couple days he could easily take those numbers - if the fishing was good. Let's not dwell on actual numbers when we don't know the full story. It doesn't matter other than I miss not having an aug/sept with a freezer full of sockeye. A sockeye per week all winter would sure be nice. Yes - I'm jealous.  ;D
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: skaha on August 24, 2018, 09:55:23 AM
With 3 families and a few friends wanting socks it was just easier and financially smarter to go and buy them from the commercials.

--Second sentence seems to indicate the socks were a legal purchase.

--as to the question, from observing kokanee at a counting station. the fish come into the counting trap at night, each morning they are counted by sex and released upstream of the trap. they seem to come in waves...some days mostly male some days mostly female. have not seen enough of it to establish a pattern but I am sure someone has some research paper on it.

--I will not risk making a joke and offending those who wonder why the fish are only categorized as male or female.
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: GordJ on August 24, 2018, 01:16:58 PM
40? must be fishing the ocean right...because 16 days since the opening x2 limit...everyone should have at most 32 fish lol  :P
Read the post, your comprehension level must be low.lol
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: fishingwithjohn on August 24, 2018, 05:27:20 PM
Im not going to get into this with you...he either bought 40 salmon or he caught them lol...only making a cheeky quip...it has nothing to do with a lack of comprehension you imbecile...
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: fishingwithjohn on August 24, 2018, 05:29:16 PM
Oh come on - he didn't say how many people were involved in catching. Heck, even if he took his kid, dad or wife a couple days he could easily take those numbers - if the fishing was good. Let's not dwell on actual numbers when we don't know the full story. It doesn't matter other than I miss not having an aug/sept with a freezer full of sockeye. A sockeye per week all winter would sure be nice. Yes - I'm jealous.  ;D

I am being cheeky...MY EMOJI SAYS IT ALL OLDTIMERS!...I do not come across as accusatory at all!
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: dobrolub on August 24, 2018, 07:36:13 PM
I've seen more males on my hook
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: CohoJake on August 24, 2018, 08:16:13 PM
4 more males this evening - even though I thought for sure the little 4 pounder was a doe.  That brings it to 9/10 males for us.
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: Tylsie on August 24, 2018, 10:23:20 PM
Thanks everyone. Just found it interesting. Must of just been where he set his net as I am pretty sure he wasn't sorting. I went out twice myself, caught 2 females one trip and nothing the next so that was too small a sample, and and with 1 week to go to until bow season I doubt I will make it back out until Coho season.
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: cdjk123 on August 25, 2018, 03:28:13 PM
Been out a number of times, and it's been an even 50/50
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: jeetS on August 25, 2018, 03:39:49 PM
40? must be fishing the ocean right...because 16 days since the opening x2 limit...everyone should have at most 32 fish lol  :P


These fish were bought and paid for lol and not all for myself either!
 I've only been out 3 times for socks so far
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: Wiseguy on August 25, 2018, 07:41:33 PM
I'm at 10 fish now and all but one has been male.
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: CohoJake on August 25, 2018, 07:44:40 PM
3 males to 1 female today, brings it to 21/24 so 7/8 male.  Makes me not feel guilty about harvesting a lot of sockeye as I know it is eggs that are the primary driver of spawning productivity.
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: BBarley on August 25, 2018, 08:33:42 PM
10 total, all hens but one big bruiser buck.

Side note, not to sidetrack, is there any harm in returning discarded fish scraps to a river different then it's origin? In this case the Vedder from the Fraser? Trying to do the right thing in keeping the nutrients in the river but don't want any unforeseen consequences from a seemingly harmless act.
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: avid angler on August 25, 2018, 11:39:13 PM
Nope nothing wrong with that at all. The only potentially negative outcome is some dummy not being able to put two and two together and assuming someone decapitated a bunch of cultus sockeye 🙄
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: SilverChaser on August 26, 2018, 05:05:21 PM
I've killed 11 this year and only 4 were females. All the males have been big though.
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: BBarley on August 26, 2018, 05:37:31 PM
Nope nothing wrong with that at all. The only potentially negative outcome is some dummy not being able to put two and two together and assuming someone decapitated a bunch of cultus sockeye 🙄

I can live with that :)
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: GordJ on August 27, 2018, 11:21:03 AM
Im not going to get into this with you...he either bought 40 salmon or he caught them lol...only making a cheeky quip...it has nothing to do with a lack of comprehension you imbecile...
Thanks for the clarification, now if only we could meet up on the river one day.
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: fishmonk on August 27, 2018, 05:47:29 PM
8 fish - 5 males and 3 females
Title: Re: Sockeye - ratio of females to males
Post by: sbc hris on August 27, 2018, 10:36:05 PM
4 today for me and a buddy. 3 females, 1 male.