Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: chris gadsden on September 25, 2014, 08:10:19 AM
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I know you have missed me. ;D
http://alexandramorton.typepad.com/alexandra_morton/2014/09/licenced-to-kill-wild-salmon.html
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Exactly what chemicals is she talking about Chirs? Btw you might want to picket Safeway again. Stopped in there on my way to Boston Bar three weeks ago. They were selling Atlantics right beside the Sockeye.
Personally, I think your time would be better spent educating the public more about taking their litter home with them. Spent some time cleaning up a couple of camping spots while I was there. Perhaps more awareness at the beginning of the season rather than the end may help.
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We have been doing this since 2002, www.cleanrivers.ca and thanks for doing your part on those cleanups you just did.
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for Chris ...
http://salmonfarmscience.com/2014/09/25/new-salmon-aquaculture-bashing-film-looks-like-its-gonna-be-a-humdinger-of-a-crockumentary/
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for Chris ...
http://salmonfarmscience.com/2014/09/25/new-salmon-aquaculture-bashing-film-looks-like-its-gonna-be-a-humdinger-of-a-crockumentary/
I can't take anything seriously that is so biased and petty as to immediately resort to finger-pointing and name calling. Thank you for the completely pointless post Dave!
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Exactly what chemicals is she talking about Chirs? I am just wondering if they are the same as what is used in Alaska and Washington. You know, Mortons home land. :)
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I can't take anything seriously that is so biased and petty as to immediately resort to finger-pointing and name calling. Thank you for the completely pointless post Dave!
Then don't read Bawb's drivel. It's all petty attacks from the www.feedlotandoceanfloorfeces.com - or www.salmonfarmnonsciencebutblamemortonanyway.com
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I can't take anything seriously that is so biased and petty as to immediately resort to finger-pointing and name calling. Thank you for the completely pointless post Dave!
LOL!!
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Well done Chris... Almo thanks you ;D
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Well done Chris... Almo thanks you ;D
She needs all the publicity she can get. She is kind of irrelevant these days.....with all the wild salmon getting bonked these days by commies, First Nations and sporties.
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Thanks for posting the info , whether you like the people involved or not,its good that someone is questioning the regulations in an industry that is almost to a point of self regulation.
Actually the fish farms are also irrelevant ,cause i'd rather eat fresh wild sockeye!
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Looks like doc Morton has her work cut out for herself. :)
http://www.campbellrivermirror.com/news/277141171.html?mobile=true
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http://www.alaskasalmonranching.com/liar-see-what-you-think/
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Once again Ms Morton tries to make loose connections where her evidence is sketchy, made-up, baseless and more importantly omits facts that do not support her theories. Morton knows very little about Fraser Sockeye that it's amusing seeing these new theories of hers. She doesn't even know where they spawn in a major interior lake. When information is made readily available she still can't get it straight. What is really funny is that she accuses government and industry of hiding and omitting information, but she is the biggest offender out there. There are still some lab results from this virus testing she still hasn't posted, but still makes conclusions about them in the public and media. When Kristi Miller said something that didn't fit her theory she omitted it from her last film. Apparently disclosure doesn't apply to "independent" biologists. It's more important to keep the followers in-line so they will be encouraged to hit the GoFundMe button.
Want to support something worthwhile? Go support people like Chris or Dave in their volunteer efforts. Buy a Salmon Conservation Stamp where all the money now goes to the Pacific Salmon Foundation for salmon enhancement and habitat rehabilitation projects. Join a local Fish and Game club and volunteer your time on fish habitat projects. Want to be educated about Fraser Sockeye Salmon? Go out to the Adams River next month and take in the festival and listen to the experts doing interpretation (volunteering their time).
Chances are we will never see all of her results. Don't bother looking for the Department of Wild Salmon website to find those results - the site doesn't exist anymore. Where are her results from the water samples she took from Quesnel Lake? It's been over a month now and apparently not a word from her on this, but it didn't prevent her to speculate while she was visiting the area - acting like some saviour. Meanwhile the province has continued routinely posting results (including raw data) for the public, including First Nations groups, to see.
As for fish farms being "irrelevant" I can see a person who dislikes fish farms would likely say that; however, when you look at the value of the industry in BC and the fact that aquaculture worldwide is growing each year it is hardly irrelevant.
http://www.salmonfarmers.org/sites/default/files/090314_correction_morton_september_3_2014_blog_fraser_river_sockeye_return2.pdf
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Once again Ms Morton tries to make loose connections where her evidence is sketchy, made-up, baseless and more importantly omits facts that do not support her theories. Morton knows very little about Fraser Sockeye that it's amusing seeing these new theories of hers. She doesn't even know where they spawn in a major interior lake. When information is made readily available she still can't get it straight. What is really funny is that she accuses government and industry of hiding and omitting information, but she is the biggest offender out there. There are still some lab results from this virus testing she still hasn't posted, but still makes conclusions about them in the public and media. When Kristi Miller said something that didn't fit her theory she omitted it from her last film. Apparently disclosure doesn't apply to "independent" biologists. It's more important to keep the followers in-line so they will be encouraged to hit the GoFundMe button.
Want to support something worthwhile? Go support people like Chris or Dave in their volunteer efforts. Buy a Salmon Conservation Stamp where all the money now goes to the Pacific Salmon Foundation for salmon enhancement and habitat rehabilitation projects. Join a local Fish and Game club and volunteer your time on fish habitat projects. Want to be educated about Fraser Sockeye Salmon? Go out to the Adams River next month and take in the festival and listen to the experts doing interpretation (volunteering their time).
Chances are we will never see all of her results. Don't bother looking for the Department of Wild Salmon website to find those results - the site doesn't exist anymore. Where are her results from the water samples she took from Quesnel Lake? It's been over a month now and apparently not a word from her on this, but it didn't prevent her to speculate while she was visiting the area - acting like some saviour. Meanwhile the province has continued routinely posting results (including raw data) for the public, including First Nations groups, to see.
As for fish farms being "irrelevant" I can see a person who dislikes fish farms would likely say that; however, when you look at the value of the industry in BC and the fact that aquaculture worldwide is growing each year it is hardly irrelevant.
http://www.salmonfarmers.org/sites/default/files/090314_correction_morton_september_3_2014_blog_fraser_river_sockeye_return2.pdf
Two days of river cleanups ahead,the Fraser today and the Chilliwack Vedder tomorrow looks like the weather is with us. Then off hunting and join Alex and Eddie on the Adams River for the sockeye festival, back on the FF file, is good to be back on it. ;D ;D Will provide some video for you after.
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Two days of river cleanups ahead,the Fraser today and the Chilliwack Vedder tomorrow looks like the weather is with us. Then off hunting and join Alex and Eddie on the Adams River for the sockeye festival, back on the FF file, is good to be back on it. ;D ;D Will provide some video for you after.
Have fun while you are there Chris. It will be nice to look back after the clean up and say, yup we were there. :) Is Doc Morton and Eddie pitchin in on the clean up also? Realy would like to see some vid of that. Could you ask Morton what chemicals she is talking about for me please. Seems no one can answer that question here.
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Two days of river cleanups ahead,the Fraser today and the Chilliwack Vedder tomorrow looks like the weather is with us. Then off hunting and join Alex and Eddie on the Adams River for the sockeye festival, back on the FF file, is good to be back on it. ;D ;D Will provide some video for you after.
Sounds good.
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Have fun while you are there Chris. It will be nice to look back after the clean up and say, yup we were there. :) Is Doc Morton and Eddie pitchin in on the clean up also? Realy would like to see some vid of that. Could you ask Morton what chemicals she is talking about for me please. Seems no one can answer that question here.
Actually Eddie and Almo have participated in our clean ups .. Chris took a picture of her and I ... said he was going to blackmail me with it, lol! Thank goodness he cannot find it ;D
I find the whole issue of dumping "chemicals" from salmon farms amusing when one considers what Victoria dumps into the ocean, or what we flush down the toilet ..
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Actually Eddie and Almo have participated in our clean ups .. Chris took a picture of her and I ... said he was going to blackmail me with it, lol! Thank goodness he cannot find it ;D
I find the whole issue of dumping "chemicals" from salmon farms amusing when one considers what Victoria dumps into the ocean, or what we flush down the toilet ..
I guess Doc Morton has done something to help wild salmon then. Doc Morton seems too focused on the anti-farming than what really needs to be addressed. She should have more pics of her cleaning up in her documentaries and get more of her followers on board. I always thought, the only harm to wild salmon was fish farms lol. Totally agree with you on what we flush and drain down our sinks Dave.
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Actually Eddie and Almo have participated in our clean ups .. Chris took a picture of her and I ... said he was going to blackmail me with it, lol! Thank goodness he cannot find it ;D
I find the whole issue of dumping "chemicals" from salmon farms amusing when one considers what Victoria dumps into the ocean, or what we flush down the toilet ..
I think Dave deleted it from my camera when I was not looking,they were having a nice talk if I remember. Pictures of our cleanup today here.https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Fraser-Valley-Salmon-Society/111769675563789
Amazing only 20 people turned up, I guess they did not want to be near me. ::) ;D ;D
Thats what being against FF and TOW ing will do for you. :-X ;D
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I think Dave deleted it from my camera when I was not looking,they were having a nice talk if I remember. Pictures of our cleanup today here.https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Fraser-Valley-Salmon-Society/111769675563789
Amazing only 20 people turned up, I guess they did not want to be near me. ::) ;D ;D
Thats what being against FF and TOW ing will do for you. :-X ;D
Sorry to hear that Chris. :( Wish more people did not leave the mess in the first place.
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Sorry to hear that Chris. :( Wish more people did not leave the mess in the first place.
We got nearly half the bin filled, tomoorow we will have close to 300 attend for the Chilliwack Vedder Cleanup. ;D
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We got nearly half the bin filled, tomoorow we will have close to 300 attend for the Chilliwack Vedder Cleanup. ;D
Great to hear. Should be a fun day. :)
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I think we had over 300 attend a great day.Pictures on the Fraser Valley Salmon Society and Chilliwack Vedder River Cleanup Society FB pages, more to upload too.
Rodney may have some up too. Great to see so many young people attend with their families and cubs, scouts, guides and young naturalists.
Now off to deal with the FF issue with Alex and Eddie, have to say that to stay on topic. ;D ;D ;D
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I think we had over 300 attend a great day.Pictures on the Fraser Valley Salmon Society and Chilliwack Vedder River Cleanup Society FB pages, more to upload too.
Rodney may have some up too. Great to see so many young people attend with their families and cubs, scouts, guides and young naturalists.
Now off to deal with the FF issue with Alex and Eddie, have to say that to stay on topic. ;D ;D ;D
So great to hear Chris. Thanks for the update :). Nice to see the young ones pitching in and learning at the same time. Wish I could have been there for the fun. :)
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A good day ahead, meeting Alex and Eddie at the Adams River,today is the official opening of the month long festival as we salute the sockeye. It will be good to see the sockeye too that escaped the flossers and FF's.Not sure what is the worse of the two.
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Give your head a shake Chris ... flossers have killed far more sockeye this season than salmon farms have in 40 years. Prove me wrong, lol!
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Give your head a shake Chris ... flossers have killed far more sockeye this season than salmon farms have in 40 years. Prove me wrong, lol!
Now they are at it on the Vedder.
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I was down at the mouth this morning.Saluting the Sockeye with an egg presentation on the six weight.Slow morning had to work for them but still managed about fifteen rainbows.This is a nice place to retire.
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You need a 6 wt from what I understand.
Buddies are headed your way next week for the big cycle rainbow fest.
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Back on track, we visited Costco on Sunday.
http://youtu.be/zjI9cBaYlzo?list=UU_4LtEFjHj-ulBHuoq6COmQ
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http://commonsensecanadian.ca/harpers-new-fish-farm-laws-open-floodgates-waste-dumping/
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I admire your dedication Chris but any "common sense Canadian" should ask why it is ok to farm salmon in open net pens in Alaska, Washington and Maine and why no fingers are pointed at them. :)
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I admire your dedication Chris but any "common sense Canadian" should ask why it is ok to farm salmon in Alaska, Washington and Maine and why no fingers are pointed at them. :)
Never spread yourself too thin.