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RalphH

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Re: Define locally
« Reply #60 on: April 27, 2020, 06:02:53 PM »

Give me a break Ralph. This has nothing to do with being angry. I'm excited for my flyfishing solitude that is about to happen. I haven't been this excited about the interior fishing in years.....not to mention 75 cent a litre gas. Last year  was  $1.40. May is going to be awesome.


...and you are angry about someone suggesting may be it's best you don't.

Go ahead help your self absorbed self as there is no law. You don't even stop to come up with some incomprehensible styling of what local may be you just exploit the situation. No self justifying needed. In that sense my hat is off; Tah Tah.
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Re: Define locally
« Reply #61 on: April 27, 2020, 06:17:09 PM »

And the Darwin award goes to..........
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Re: Define locally
« Reply #62 on: April 27, 2020, 07:39:44 PM »

...and you are angry about someone suggesting may be it's best you don't.

Go ahead help your self absorbed self as there is no law. You don't even stop to come up with some incomprehensible styling of what local may be you just exploit the situation. No self justifying needed. In that sense my hat is off; Tah Tah.

Not self absorbed at all. Again, I'm not breaking any law...and they just deemed fishing/hunting essential, so I'm doing nothing wrong nor am I exploiting anyone. Barring something happening that is completely out of my control, I have a very well thought out social distancing plan to go fishing which doesn't put me or anyone else at risk.

Sorry, but you sound like the angry one now, or maybe you're just jealous that while you're browsing through Facebook grinning at TDS posts on the sheeple pages, I'll be out catching Pennask Rainbows on the dry.
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Re: Define locally
« Reply #63 on: April 27, 2020, 09:31:50 PM »

Right now, there is NO law saying we can't travel from the LM to Princeton/Merrit for a daytrip of flyfishing.
If a law comes into place that states we can't....then I'll will respect it.

Anyone complaining of me doing that is nothing more than an agenda to control my rights and to induce unnecessary fearmongering.
Even by my standards that the LM is considered “local” in terms of hunting or fishing, I think its a bit of a stretch to consider Merritt-Princeton as local, but the trip you describe certainly has less risk than you going to your neighbourhood grocery or liquor store!

However I would suggest that, in this time, to assert what your rights are is not a mature perspective.  Agreed there are very few PHO orders governing our everyday lives and most of the precautions that we practice are merely guidelines and suggestions. But in times like this we voluntarily suspend some of our personal rights and freedoms in order to abide by the guidelines for the sake of social responsibility.

I don’t HAVE to do some of the stuff I do, and I CAN do some of the stuff I don’t,  but I do or don’t because we are all in this together, and I’m part of a larger picture than just me. 

Go solo dry fly fishing for Pennasks because you have considered the guidelines and can adhere to them and mitigate/eliminate risk. But don’t go cuz it’s your right. There  is certainly a time and place to assert rights. This is neither.
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Re: Define locally
« Reply #64 on: April 28, 2020, 07:24:56 AM »

Not self absorbed at all. Again, I'm not breaking any law...and they just deemed fishing/hunting essential, so I'm doing nothing wrong nor am I exploiting anyone. Barring something happening that is completely out of my control, I have a very well thought out social distancing plan to go fishing which doesn't put me or anyone else at risk.

Sorry, but you sound like the angry one now, or maybe you're just jealous that while you're browsing through Facebook grinning at TDS posts on the sheeple pages, I'll be out catching Pennask Rainbows on the dry.

You are self absorbed,  but probably more honest about what you intend to do and why, than some others.

BTW "something happening that is completely out of my control" is a good reason not to fish outside of your local area.
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Re: Define locally
« Reply #65 on: April 28, 2020, 08:14:19 AM »

My nabour met their mother for a picnic that lives in Kamloops half way.

Judging by people’s reactions here I should of chewed him out for such actions.

I felt bad tho because they just had a baby
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Re: Define locally
« Reply #66 on: April 28, 2020, 08:51:50 AM »

Your neighbor and their mother just had a baby?
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Robert_G

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Re: Define locally
« Reply #67 on: April 28, 2020, 09:23:34 AM »

However I would suggest that, in this time, to assert what your rights are is not a mature perspective.  Agreed there are very few PHO orders governing our everyday lives and most of the precautions that we practice are merely guidelines and suggestions. But in times like this we voluntarily suspend some of our personal rights and freedoms in order to abide by the guidelines for the sake of social responsibility.

Go solo dry fly fishing for Pennasks because you have considered the guidelines and can adhere to them and mitigate/eliminate risk. But don’t go cuz it’s your right. There  is certainly a time and place to assert rights. This is neither.

This isn't about asserting my rights for the sake of asserting my rights. I WANT to go fishing...it's been deemed essential....and there is no laws saying I can't go....I have taken every precaution of safety that I can.....and for me personally, a quiet day of fly-fishing does wonders for my mental health and well being. If that isn't a good enough reason to do something that is deemed totally legal.....then I'm not sure what is.

BTW "something happening that is completely out of my control" is a good reason not to fish outside of your local area.

Which takes us back to the OP question. "Define Locally"

I already detailed my plan out....and it would be unfair for you to assert that I don't see it as local.
I have nailed it down to not having to interact with anyone barring a complete disaster.
I have taken every precaution and I can do the whole thing easily in less than a day.
I've read the guidelines for people who want to fish and I believe I'm am doing them in a responsible way. You may not agree and that is your opinion.
Again, while you're at home doing what it is you do, I'll be enjoying myself on some uncrowded lakes....and I'll be doing it 'locally'
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Re: Define locally
« Reply #68 on: April 28, 2020, 09:47:32 AM »

Environmentalists /clean air advocates would say local is 15 minute drive from your home....
Gas/oil companies hurting at this time ....would say.....please stay local and close by when you fish..
4 -8 hrs one way .....is ok.  Buy gas support us.

Quebec / Ontario hit very bad....
Is their local different than our local ?

People who still are healthy may possibly start to get less fear about getting infected and their local is getting longer and longer.
Kinda like the zebra so thirsty is soooooo careful at the water pond infested with crocs.
Drinks a little then backs away....drinks a little and backs away....does this 20 x ...it gets a false sense of no danger.
It takes a longer drink ...so good !!!! Suddenly a 10 ft croc comes bursting out of the dirty water and pulls the zebra into the water.
5 more crocs swim over...withing secs 20 crocs.....not long after entire zebra is in the bellies of crocs.
Whatever your local is ...be careful...this virus can be so minor ...but it can also bite a person hard !!!
Fevers blood clots body chills can't breath sore throat and possibly very sick for weeks and weeks or even death in 2-3 days !!!!
Know of story...a trucker who had 2 days off. You know truckers are driving their rig 600-700 miles per day down highways...
So he wants to buy toilet paper ...drives with his family member to Mission...to Abby ....to Hope....Chilliwack and finally they find a package but it costs $10.
Out of protest he does not buy it because the price is too high.
This is a nice guy BUT driving all over the place and going into so many stores...risking getting infected and then finally finding a package still decides not to buy it !!!
Just spent how much on fuel too???????
Guess his local was going all over LML .

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Re: Define locally
« Reply #69 on: April 28, 2020, 10:10:53 AM »

Resorts planning on opening after the May long weekend, as long as this trend of low rates continues, so my guess we will be able to travel to our lakes for our spring fishing.
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Re: Define locally
« Reply #70 on: April 28, 2020, 10:48:27 AM »

lets hope so, a little bit of lake time will do eveybody some good
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Re: Define locally
« Reply #71 on: April 28, 2020, 12:58:34 PM »

Your neighbor and their mother just had a baby?

It's complicated.
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Re: Define locally
« Reply #72 on: April 28, 2020, 01:50:53 PM »

Aerosol spread is likely possible but given the contagion rate is at best insignificant source of contagion. Virus (like measles) that remain viable in free air long enough have contagion rates 2x or more higher than covid. As for getting the virus from farts or feces well people don't normally get close enough for droplet contact let alone get it into the lungs 2nd hand.[Yuck]

https://first10em.com/aerosols-droplets-and-airborne-spread/

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/16/coronavirus-can-become-aerosol-doesnt-mean-doomed/

Thanks for the links: more interesting info; however it does not support what you have stated in your post. I really don't want to debate as I don't have the time, and I wouldn't normally reply in this type of discussion, but I feel I have a duty to. I work with 10-12 specialist doctors, and lots of other health professionals, at a local hospital in a graduate-level capacity on the front line, and what I stated earlier is the outlook for infection we are currently dealing with as far as we can figure out, given the data we see. Take it or leave it; but please be cautious.
PS-Bonnie's watching ;D     
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Re: Define locally
« Reply #73 on: April 28, 2020, 02:55:26 PM »

PS-Bonnie's watching ;D     

Literally, laughed out loud! Thanks for that, and thanks for your service, bb.
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Re: Define locally
« Reply #74 on: April 29, 2020, 07:38:13 AM »

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Which takes us back to the OP question. "Define Locally"



Here's a test.

Try asking the people who live in the immediate locality if you are fishing. Tell them where you are from and why you are there.

Ask them if they think you are a local.
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