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British Columbia Sport & Outdoor Lounge => Sport Chat => Topic started by: wizard on March 26, 2010, 02:47:54 PM
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I wish I started this thread a little earlier but couldn't as I was away from internet for awhile. BUT, this card is stacked and is the biggest ufc card in a while. Here is the card and some of my predictions. Some awesome fights for sure. Please post your predictions as well for ufc 111 "proving ground"!
Goerge "Rush" St-Pierre vs Dan "Outlaw" Hardy (170 lb): Many people are saying that Hardy has a punchers chance, which I guess is true, but I don't see this one any other way then GSP retaining champion. Take Hardy to the ground and overwhelm him. GSP round 3 tko gnp.
Shane Carwin vs Frank Mir (heavyweight): Wow, what a fight this is gonna be. This fight is for number one contender and a shot at Brock's belt. Carwin is undefeated in 11 fights, and has never gone past 2 minutes of the first round knocking every oponent out! I don't see that happening with Mir. Mir is a smart of fighter as there is, and I don't think he'll get caught. I want Carwin to win, and by ko would be sweet, but I have Mir coming out on top via sub in rd 2.
Jon Fitch vs Ben Saunders (170 lb): This was supposed to be thiago alves fighting instead of Saunders, But nontheless, this is going to be a great fight. Both fighters are in prime condition. Tough fight to call, but I'll say Fitch just based on overall experience. I would not be all that surprised if Saunders can pull an upset, but Fitch should win. I'll say Fitch via decision.
Nate Diaz vs Rory Markham (170 lb) Diaz is one of my favorite fighters, but this is his first fight at 170 lbs. Markham is no joke and this is going to be a hard fight for Diaz to win unless he can get a submission off his back. Markham via decision.
Jim Miller vs Mark Bocek (155 lb) Bocek (canadian): Bocek via choke-out
Ricardo Almeida vs Matt Brown (170 lb) Matt Brown's tough as nails, but Almeida via decision or sub. Surprise me Matt Brown!
Kurt pelligrino vsFabricio Camoes (155 lb) have to admit I don't know much about Camoes, so I'll say Pellegrino viaTKO
Please post your thoughts on this card.
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I think that by far the most interesting matchup is the Carwin fight. Shane has been known to be hurt by punchers and can be caught due to his wild swinging at time. Mir should make a fight of it I believe by standing and not going to the geround cause as good as he is, Carwing is stronger and will outgmuscle him a la Lesnar. Mir needs to keep it standing and box him. Interestingly, I also believe that Carwin is faster thus creating peroblems for Mir......It should be interesting while it lasts!..
BTW where u watching it!
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yes, Mir/Carwin is gonna be a slobberknocker no doubt. Both men weighed in at 265 lbs!! that's alotta beef...
I'll be watching from my parents living room in Abbotsford. Usually I go to Mission Springs or something, but I figure it's cheaper just to order it, and split the cost between friends.
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Im really looking foward to the Shogun vs Machida battle. I think the first one was really close and the 2nd should be equally contested.
Carwin is dfinately a monster and should be a challenge to Lesnar.....Now I want to see Dos santos vs. the guy who beat Noguiera....
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carwin mir lived up to the hype. carwin executed his game plan to a t and saw the result with Mir being knocked out and not knowing what city he was in after the fight.
Yes he does pose a threat to Brock Lesnar. But he's going to have to perfect a different type of game plan for Lesnar. That's gonna be a huge fight! I think Lesnar still has strength advantage, but carwin has striking advantage.
machida vs shogun is the next BIG fight, title might be changing hands, there...
Now they're saying UFC 115 in Vancouver is cancelled. It's being moved to Cincinatti... The city was being unreasonable over "liability insurance issues. this city just lost a big oppurtunity here.
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carwin mir lived up to the hype. carwin executed his game plan to a t and saw the result with Mir being knocked out and not knowing what city he was in after the fight.
Yes he does pose a threat to Brock Lesnar. But he's going to have to perfect a different type of game plan for Lesnar. That's gonna be a huge fight! I think Lesnar still has strength advantage, but carwin has striking advantage.
machida vs shogun is the next BIG fight, title might be changing hands, there...
Now they're saying UFC 115 in Vancouver is cancelled. It's being moved to Cincinatti... The city was being unreasonable over "liability insurance issues. this city just lost a big oppurtunity here.
Just heard the news as well. This totally blows!!!! I cant believe the City is being so unreasonable. Do they not understand how much money this will being into the city?
Great to see GSP dominate once again. Still cant believe Hardy never tapped. Gotta give Hardy some props for being so tough. GSP is easily the best athlete in MMA. Might not be the best pure fighter but the best athlete by far. He finds his opponents weaknesses and dominates them.
So happy Carwin knocked out Mir. Carwin has never gone out of the first round. I also think that he will have problems with Lesnars strength. It should make for a great fight.
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So happy Carwin knocked out Mir. Carwin has never gone out of the first round. I also think that he will have problems with Lesnars strength. It should make for a great fight.
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I think its partly due to the effect of weak opposition (Mir notwithstanding). Lesnar vs Carwin will be like watching two polar bears going attit!
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Dont forget to ctch UFC FREE on spke 2nite!
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Thanks for the reminder. It looks like the show in Vancouver is not off yet. They are still trying to deal with the insurance issues but its not dead.
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I'm actually really looking forward to fight night live tonight. Talk about a BIG day of fight action. First, at 4:00 is ufc unleashead where they're going to show Replays Frankie Edgar vs Sean Shirk and Cael Sonnen vs Nate Marquardt.
At 6:00 goes live to Fight Night. Some names in action...Yushin Okami, Caol Uno vs Gleison Tibau will be a great fight, Rob Emerson, Andre winner, Ross Pearson, Nate Quarry.
Main event is Ken Flo vs Takanori Gomi And 263 lb Roy Big Country Nelson vs 6'11 Stefan Struve.
I like Ken Flo and Nelson to win.
After that is the season premier episode of the Ultimate Fighter!
As for ufc 115...Hopefully they can work something out, but I'm not holding my breathe. Just because some suits in city hall don't understand MMA, doesn't mean that MMA fans should have to suffer because of it. They don't care about the guaranteed millions of dollars that would be coming to Vancouver...instead they're worried about supposed "gangsters" coming to the event and causing trouble...what a joke. I'd be more worried about going to a Lions game. The whole situation just leaves me shaking my head....it's all just politics
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I think it's back on for good...
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jRgfnPf0aNhium5YMpgu5lCzzsdg
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I think it's back on for good...
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jRgfnPf0aNhium5YMpgu5lCzzsdg
Good News......Hopefullly by then GSP will have stepped up to the Lheavyweight division
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Hopefully clearer heads will prevail here...I wanna see something set in stone.
UFC is confirming Vancouver date which is a good sign.
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Hopefully clearer heads will prevail here...I wanna see something set in stone.
UFC is confirming Vancouver date which is a good sign.
Yes ...great news indeed.....anyone know what the price for tix will be like?
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Ok, so, ufc 115 in Vancouver looks to be a for sure thing now (collective sigh of relief). Also, the card is taking shape nicely. Couture/Franklin, unfortunately,(previously sched for ufc 115) has been moved to August, and now Thiago Alves vs Jon Fitch will be in Vancouver. I could post the scheduled 115 card now, but things tend to change especially this far out, although the card is pretty much full. btw, this will sell out within 48 hours of tickets being released, possibly 24.
As for ufc 112 in Abu Dabi this weekend....Silva/Maia; I hope Maia but will bet on Silva. I'm not much of a silva fan, unbeleivable talent...but only shows it when he wants to. Silva rd 2 ko. this is hardfight to call as Silva sometimes fights not to hurt fellow brazilian fighters.
BJ Penn/Frankie Edgar; Again, hoping Edgar wins, but BJ is a freak and will not give up his belt without something seriou happening. I think Penn is 8:1 favorite...hell, put down 20$ on Edgar and get a nice payback if Edgar pulls upset of the century. I'm expecting Edgar to give BJ an interesting fight as their fighting styles are similiar. B.J. rd 4 Choke out. Matt Hughes/Renzo Gracie: I hope Hughes gets put in the hospital. lol...not a big Hughes fan. other fights...terry etim vs rafael dosanjos, kendall grove vs Mark munoz,...that's about it for big names. Paul taylor, paul kelly and Damarques Johnson will also be on the card . what do you guys think. agree/disagree
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Yup , im pretty much on the same 'reasoning' boat as yourself.......I also think this isnt a great card per say......Maia and Edgard really stand no chance unless their opponents show up out-of-shape.
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Frankie Edagr is new champion at lightweight. Way to go frankie!
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hugely weak card. I had Penn winning the first 3 rounds, and judging by the fight metric and mma sites that was correct..to score 50-45 and 49-46 is a prime example of the judging problems in MMA. edgar slightly edged round 4 and won 5. 1 and 2 were easily BJs landing 35 strikes to 17. round 3 was close but Penns imo. BJ didnt look himself and his performance was lack lustre but I felt he did enough to keep the belt. Oh well he will come back stronger and regain the built before years end.
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I can't really comment on the fights cause I didn't see them (too busy cutty fishing on the sunshine coast over the weekend), but from what I heard and read, Edgar deserved to win. Unfortunately I didn't take my own advise and lay money down on Edgar. Showdown joe ferraro from sportsnet said he had Edgar winning 4 rounds to 1. Judging in MMA I agree needs to be sorted out. Why use boxings judging system, when they aren't even the same sport? Also Dana White is PISSED at Anderson Silva for his antics during the Maia fight. I want to see Silva get ktfo.
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BJ Penn is apparently getting a rematch/title shot against Frankie Edgar at ufc 118. I don't agree with it, I think Gray Maynard should get a shot first considering Maynard is the only person who's defeated Edgar.
Also, Anderson Silva is expected to face Cael Sonnen at ufc 117.
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BJ Penn is apparently getting a rematch/title shot against Frankie Edgar at ufc 118. I don't agree with it, I think Gray Maynard should get a shot first considering Maynard is the only person who's defeated Edgar.
Also, Anderson Silva is expected to face Cael Sonnen at ufc 117.
Anothe mistmatch with SIlva. Time for him to move to heavyweight.
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Dana has said if Silva pulls the same crap in his next fight he will be cut. He doesnt care who he is he wont have his fighters dancing around like an idiot.
Chael will get knocked out just like Forest did. I think Silva gets Whites message loud and clear
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Anothe mistmatch with SIlva. Time for him to move to heavyweight.
Silva is a middleweight, I am pretty sure he would move to light heavyweight before heavyweight, I personally think the only fighter in MMA with enough talent to beat Silva is GSP, either GSP needs to move up to Middleweight or Silva needs to come down to Welterweight, that would be an amazing fight !!
TH
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I agree trophy hunter, gsp vs Silva would be an incredible fight. GSP I think would be able to finish his takedowns, and Silva would have problems with GSP on top of him. Problem is obviously the weight issues...it would probably have to be at a catch weight...? Also, Silva said after his Maia fight that he'd like to fight GSP, but Dana White responded by saying "after that fiasco, Silva doesn't deserve to fight GSP", which I agree with. Sonnen/Silva will go either two ways, Sonnen ground n' pounds Silva, or Silva knocks Sonnen out....whatever, Silva to me is a poor champion. alot of talent, but he has a weird mentality...(going easy on brazilian fighters, etc.) I'd like to see him in the future fight Jon Bones Jones at 205. THAT would be an interesting fight.
Does anyone have any predictions for this weekends WEC event? I will be ordering this event featuring: URija Faber/JOse Aldo(champ), Manny Gamburyan/Matt Brown, Ben Henderson (champ)/Donald Cerrone. I have Faber, Gamburyan and Henderson. If you don't know about WEC, it's owned by Zuffa (ufc) and features the top fighters in the world.
Also, did anyone see dan henderson vs Jake shields>? Henderson lost in a 5 round decision for strikeforce 185 belt.
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GSP would be an interesting match against silva...he would most certainly be able to get him down but i think he would have trouble in silvas guard and wouldnt be able to pass, plus silvas jits is under rated.
The best match up in MMA for silva is Fedor emelianenko. Fedor walks around at 230 and cuts no weight to fight. silva walk around at 220. Fedor is very fast and strong with great power, great chin and hes great on the ground. I think fedor beats Silva.
As for the strikeforce event, weak fights and disgusting post fight antics by shields camp. Henderson looked extremely out of shape which is rumoured to be because of injury. the henderson that fought in the UFC would have destroyed shields.
The king mo vs mousasi fight was a let down...Mousasi is an amazing fighter and only 24...he will be ufc camp one day...king mo controlled the fight with take downs but lay n prayed to victory...
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GSP would be an interesting match against silva...he would most certainly be able to get him down but i think he would have trouble in silvas guard and wouldnt be able to pass, plus silvas jits is under rated.
The best match up in MMA for silva is Fedor emelianenko. Fedor walks around at 230 and cuts no weight to fight. silva walk around at 220. Fedor is very fast and strong with great power, great chin and hes great on the ground. I think fedor beats Silva.
As for the strikeforce event, weak fights and disgusting post fight antics by shields camp. Henderson looked extremely out of shape which is rumoured to be because of injury. the henderson that fought in the UFC would have destroyed shields.
The king mo vs mousasi fight was a let down...Mousasi is an amazing fighter and only 24...he will be ufc camp one day...king mo controlled the fight with take downs but lay n prayed to victory...
I agree with you on the Mousasi fight.King mo got beat more on top. ;D ;D. He will be a champ again in strike force and one day in UFC. I think that silva would never ever fight Fedor and if he did (in the near future only. he is getting old) Fedor will destroy him. Mousasi and Silva will be a great fight once Mousasi stops eating his moms home cooked persian food and he trains for better takedown defense and stamina. He currently does little to no cardio training. Just sparing.
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ok UFC 113 is this weekend on ppv. co main event are Machida vs shogun 2 and josh koscheck vs Paul Daley. some very tough fights to call on this card.
I've tentatively got Shogun and paul daley winning. Shogun wants to right a wrong, and machida wants to prove he's still the undisputed champion. Shogun's style makes him a tough oponent and he will be as aggressive as ever. shogun round 3 tko. daley/kos could go either way but expect fireworks early. ...(hopefully daley can make weight for once)
other fights...Sam Stout vs Jeremy Stevens; Stout via decision.
Kimbo Slice vs Matt Mitrione; Mitrione via ref stoppage.
Alan Belcher vs Patrick Cote; Cote via KO.
Marcus Davis vs Jonathan Goulet; Davis via KO.
what are your guys' thoughts predictions on this card.
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ok UFC 113 is this weekend on ppv. co main event are Machida vs shogun 2 and josh koscheck vs Paul Daley. some very tough fights to call on this card.
I've tentatively got Shogun and paul daley winning. Shogun wants to right a wrong, and machida wants to prove he's still the undisputed champion. Shogun's style makes him a tough oponent and he will be as aggressive as ever. shogun round 3 tko. daley/kos could go either way but expect fireworks early. ...(hopefully daley can make weight for once)
other fights...Sam Stout vs Jeremy Stevens; Stout via decision.
Kimbo Slice vs Matt Mitrione; Mitrione via ref stoppage.
Alan Belcher vs Patrick Cote; Cote via KO.
Marcus Davis vs Jonathan Goulet; Davis via KO.
what are your guys' thoughts predictions on this card.
Looks like a decent card
Shogun over Machida
Daley over big mouth Koscheck
Stout over Stevens
Slice over Mitrione
Cote over Belcher
Davis over Goulet
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Machida wins by dec.
Cote wins by TKO
Mitrione by TKO
Marcus davis by TKO
Stout unanimous dec.
Koscheck by sub
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hopefully there's a bar in Merritt that is showing this pay per view. ::)
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Mitrione destoyed Kimbo. I was optimistic that Kimbo had what it takes. He has nothing!!! He might have been a good street fighter but he has no business in the octagon. On the flip slide Mitrione looks ten times better than when he was in the house. He could do some damage in the heavyweight division.
I am really disappointed in Cote the Canadian. Belcher wins by rear naked choke.
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Koscheck is a goof. He fakes getting hit with the knee in hopes of getting a point deducted from Daley, he lays on him all match because he is scared of him and than at the end he disses all the Montreal fans. Daley hit Koscheck with a left hook after the buzzer which is all anyone is going to talk about. I agree thats disrespectful and unsportsmanlike but c'mon we all wanted to see that. Koscheck is a cocky goof.
The main event.....WOW!!!! Rua knocks Machida OUT COLD!!! Did you see Machidas face afterwards??? Thats the way to win the championship. Great card. The Stout Stephenson fight was awesome as well.
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agreed, Kimbo has no nusiness in the UFC. Mitrione was toying with him the whole time...he looked good and showed versatility. Too bad for Stout, I was really rooting for him, stevens just got too much power. Cote was rocked from getting droppped on his head by a borderline suplex maneuvre. cote did look rusty first round but looked better in the second, belcher is a tough guy.
Kos daley was a joke. daley landed minimally and kos laid and prayed. he SHOULD NOT get a title shot after that fight. show some class kos.
main event did not dissapoint! way to go SHOGUN, I love his aggressive style and he makes a great champion machida got messed up, bad.
overall an entertaining ppv.
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pretty decent card actually.
I thought the shogun machida fight was pretty good, pretty back and forth with shogun having a slight edge due to the one nice flurry. then that dreaded temple punch. i dont know what it is but that spot seems to buckle guys. great knockout and great show of class to stop hitting him before the ref even jumped in. I could foresee a rnd 3 in the future once machida notches a couple nice wins.
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apparantly shogun wants to fight anderson silva.
I'd like to see machida against jon jones sometime soon as well.
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apparantly shogun wants to fight anderson silva.
I'd like to see machida against jon jones sometime soon as well.
Kimbo got his pink slip. He is gone from UFC. Dana was very nice about it and even said he was wrong about Kimbo and what a nice guy and a hard worker he was. He just doesnt have it. He also doesnt fit in any weight class which hurts who he can fight.
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yeah kimbo just doesn't have enough "tools in his tool belt" as he puts it. dana got what he wanted out of him, a couple fights and alot of hype.
Paul Daley has also been released from the ufc. dana white; "Paul Daley will never fight in the ufc again".