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phatwop

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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2005, 09:12:24 PM »



this is a greenling i caught and released over the weekend. strange colours.
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2005, 09:26:09 PM »

Not at Ambleside, but not too far off topic...I caugth a couple big (about12") herring looking fish while trolling for Springs around T10 lately. Slightly bigger scales, and too big to be herring. Afriend said he thought they were called something like Pelchers. Anybody help ID it? No pics. I used the first one for bait, and unfortunately the second one slipped overboard right after I cut plugged him.
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2005, 09:41:10 PM »

Phatwop thats a cabozen they are pretty cool colored fish. Maybe the fish caught were mackrel? You probaly wold recognize them stripes small scales blue/green backs ???
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2005, 10:27:44 PM »

You mean pilchards ?

http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/pictures/Clupeidae.html

I guess that could be the fish. Thanks for the link Fish Assassin. Saw a pic Sarinus Pilchardus. Couldn't see if they get a foot long or if they live around here from the link.
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2005, 10:48:18 PM »

Sounds like pilchards...there have been good numbers of them off Port Hardy this summer and they are often found around Nootka and north of that.  They are also referred to as sardines.  Not surprised a few of them are showing up locally.  Talked to one guy who did well off Hardy for BIG springs using them for bait.
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2005, 11:54:45 PM »

Phatwop thats a cabozen they are pretty cool colored fish. Maybe the fish caught were mackrel? You probaly wold recognize them stripes small scales blue/green backs ???

actually, that's a painted greenling.(sorry i don't have pictures to forward, i just double checked on my "coastal fishes of the pacific northwest encyclopedia"). the cabezon has a huge pronounced head that's followed by a shorter narrowing body.  looks like a cross between a giant bullhead and a lingcod.
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2005, 12:08:17 AM »

Not at Ambleside, but not too far off topic...I caugth a couple big (about12") herring looking fish while trolling for Springs around T10 lately. Slightly bigger scales, and too big to be herring. Afriend said he thought they were called something like Pelchers. Anybody help ID it? No pics. I used the first one for bait, and unfortunately the second one slipped overboard right after I cut plugged him.

it could have possibly been herring. when i worked at a fish distribution plant, we used to process herrings that were 9-14 inches long. most of them were caught during their spawning cycle and the females full of roe, weighed as much as half a pound.  the japanese market paid top dollar for them.
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2005, 12:25:22 AM »

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Phatwop thats a cabozen they are pretty cool colored fish

actually, it's a different coloured kelp greenling. the cabezon is a bit different in that it's head is a lot larger and more closely related to the sculpin/bullhead family. i've caught several of those and up close, they are UGLY!,  This coloured one is one of 4 different colored kelp greenlings i've been lucky enough  to get. there is the grey with blue dots, the red with light blue dots and the brown with yellow versions. maybe someone has caught a 5th variety?
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2005, 12:28:02 AM »

Cabezon

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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2005, 12:46:51 AM »

Cabezon



alternate names: giant marbled sculpin, giant sculpin, blue garnet, bull cod*, bullhead* .

maximum recorded size: 99 cm (39 inches) and 14 kg (30 pounds)

distribution: Punta Abrejos, central Baja California, Mexico, to Sitka, southeastern Alaska.

food fare: Execellent- occasional specimens tinged with green lose this colour upon being cooked.
               do not eat the roe: it is highly toxic.

*---incorrect
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2005, 05:47:20 PM »

Ummm...it might be a bit off topic, but would there be another short season for herring or such (herring)? IF so, is it possible to catch it on the pier at Jericho's?

Thanks. Ian ;D
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2005, 06:32:08 PM »

My bad thats definatly not a cabezon i didnt look close enough :P It is a rock greenling ill try to grab a picture. There are only 2 colors of kelp greenling the female and the male. I would be suprised if there were 5 largely differing colored kelp greenling species. I have caught hundreds of greenling whitespotted,painted and kelp but have only caught one rock greenling ever??? Painted are cool and are much smaller i have seen them alot diving and caught 1 one a small hook. They are white and red in bars with small mouths hard to catch because of that they can only take the smallest hooks. The rock greenling are uncommon more along the coast open to the ocean and surf.
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2005, 06:39:10 PM »



heres a pic of the rock greenling



Here is the painted
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2005, 11:06:46 PM »

similar patterns. thanx for the pics.
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