Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jewelz on January 01, 2013, 12:00:42 PM
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This might be a simple question with a simple answer, but my curiosity has got me... How do people lose their floats on the river? I have been fishing the last 2 years with the same float as far as i can remember...
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they don't secure it properly, and when main line snaps. off goes the float. Or some are just using the wrap around float. and when main line snaps it simply slips out.
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Isn't it rare for the main line to snap off above the float? I can see it coming off where its tied to the swivel, but then you would still have your float.
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This might be a simple question with a simple answer, but my curiosity has got me... How do people lose their floats on the river? I have been fishing the last 2 years with the same float as far as i can remember...
Fish too deep or poor main line etc...
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I do not see it as losing a float, but as helping Chris out ;D
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Trees! Nuf said.
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I do not see it as losing a float, but as helping Chris out ;D
Yeah, the old guy needs more floats ... ;D
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pure laziness with changing out the main line >:(
HOOK - I tend to forget to change my mainline once or twice a season because i fly fish more than gear. this thread reminds me that my current mainline is 2 seasons old :o
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Poor knots, trees, using toothpicks to peg floats. ( lost it all on a fish after a drought, switched to bobber stoppers the next day)
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Trees! Nuf said.
You're telling me!!! Remember back in 2010 when I lost something like 3 or 4 Drennans to a tree in a single outing? OUCH! But that's where the fish were holding and we each limited out on big coho! Contrast that to this year where I've been using the same Drennan piker since October 8. Probably around a dozen or so trips since then...
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i use tooth picks and i rarely loos floats its also due to people not changing main line and then people using heaveyer leader then main line
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Not changing your mainline is definitely a factor. However, hooking a tree is really bad news - particularly if your mainline manages to catch a branch or two. :D
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Digging in my pocket to get something out of the bottom and out they come and very quickly down river.
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This might be a simple question with a simple answer, but my curiosity has got me... How do people lose their floats on the river? I have been fishing the last 2 years with the same float as far as i can remember...
Jewelz,
Are you catching many fish?
I would guess not.
You are obviously not one of those guys who drag their rig across the bottom and that's a good thing.
People lose their floats several ways.
First if you are not close to the bottom, you are not in the fish zone.
If you are, then chances are you will get snagged up every once in a while and it will break off at the wrong spot. Rocks, branches, trees.
I've lost floats by simply setting the hook when the float dips and it was actually the bottom. It happens with the odd fish hookup too.
And second over time your line will develop knicks and it will break above the swivel.
If this happens then you know you have to change your main line.
Some people will also not use proper weight leaders and their main line will be equal of smaller than the leader size. Which is wrong.
I use 12 lb main line and I do lose the odd float for sure. If I'm using a 10lb leader sometimes my line will break above the float.
The other day on the Squamish I lost a clear drift because it got snagged into a tree on the other bank.
Also not every cast is perfect and if you are taking risks with your rig and casting just before that tree, you might mess it up.
I've never really cared if I lose rigs and never really wasted time on trying to salvage them.
I have enough gear on me so I just snap it off, re-tie and continue fishing. I find some people leave their spot go to the bank, sit down, open their tackle box to re-tie.
You have to have everything on you.
You have to take risks chucking that gear.
;)
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Maybe it's because I use a rubber stopper on the top and bottom of my float. My mainline would have to break above the float in order for me to lose it... I figured that's how ur suppose to set up ur float.
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I have a feeling that this thread was created cause someone fishing down river from me saw my two floats go by.....with little time in between
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Normally mainline will break at the swivel knot, but if it is weakened it may break above the float resulting in a lost float.
I replace my mainline at the beginning of every season and chances of this happening does go down quite a bit.
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When i first started fishing last year, i lost a few setups due to poor knots. My knots are much better and i do change my line every season (salmon and steelhead). I also bought some rubber stops for just above the swivel so that the pencil lead doesnt keep slamming into the knot. I also run my fingers along the line to check for knicks etc at the beginning of every outting.
Since doing the above, the only time i have lost a float was last steelhead season. I hooked into a very large steelhead in a very tight spot and he dragged me into a log jam and snapped the main line.
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Maybe it's because I use a rubber stopper on the top and bottom of my float. My mainline would have to break above the float in order for me to lose it... I figured that's how ur suppose to set up ur float.
Yes of course.
Mainline always breaks because its bruised but how you bruise it is the question.
Also keep in mind that line weakens over time and you replace your leaders several times a day.
So sometimes if you leader is 2lb lighter it might still be stronger than the main line.
I replace my line 2-3 times a season.
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I have a feeling that this thread was created cause someone fishing down river from me saw my two floats go by.....with little time in between
It wasn't me ;D I haven't been on the river since October! I know its sad :P I'm just being nosey!
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Many lost floats result from weak areas of the mainline just above the float.This in my experience is the result of storing the rod with terminal gear attached and and strung tight.Making a stress point.The same thing happens from too tight bobber stoppers.By avoiding these two things my float retention has gone way up.Sorry Chris LOL.I also regularly take off the first twenty feet of mono that has been exposed to light and current.Using a reel cover helps extend my mono life as well by cutting down uv exposure.
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From what I've seen this is almost always caused by strange setups and poor knots although often it is just bad luck, tree branches etc.
I've always made a habit of chopping off the last 6 or so feet of my line after each river outing. This removes any risk of the knick you didn't see and U/V damage. I've also found that adding an extra couple of wraps on your upper knot vs. lower knot will give that little extra holding strength even if your are fishing with tired main line.
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Yea , if your mainline is too old and worn , it will snap above your weight. If your float isn't secured tight enough on your mainline it will slip off, if you fish a lot , you should change your mainline at least twice during the steelhead season.
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Would replacing your mainline once a season apply to those using braid as well?