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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sam Salmon on November 12, 2009, 09:29:48 PM
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1-go to google maps
2-type in Judd Road Squamish (it's actually in Brackendale but that's just details)
3-drive to the end of the road/park in the lot provided it's shown on the map as a green space but is just a gravel lot
4-walk up onto the dyke and continue to walk upstream for some minutes, observing countless runs/riffles/tailouts and side channels to fish in
5-proceed to fish/wade/walk/fish/wade/walk/catch fish, etc., etc., etc., until you drop
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what do I put on the end of my line? :)
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wool!
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but where are the really good spots ???
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Smart move, Sam. :D
Keeping the masses concentrated in and around Brackendale while keeping the really cool spots to yourself. LOL!
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what do I put on the end of my line? :)
A hook would be a good start.
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wool!
On a short leader. Chum don't shy from much, and your pencil lead doesn't frighten them. 12" is as much as you'll ever need, beyond that, the yarn is just going to be snagging fish as well not having the depth control you need.
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im actually planning to ohit squamish saturday...this is a joke isnt it?
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im actually planning to ohit squamish saturday...this is a joke isnt it?
No it's in no way a joke except for the fact that it's all 100% obvious to anyone who bothers to get out of their car and walk for 5 minutes.
People come on the net and ask the same question over & over & over when they could just drive there and start fishing almost anywhere there are fish through the whole system.
Also-you can walk downstream from Judd Road all the way to the corner but apart from one run things don't set up quite as well-except for the one seam right on the corner where the Coho often lie-and Seals lay in wait.......
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1-go to google maps
2-type in Judd Road Squamish (it's actually in Brackendale but that's just details)
3-drive to the end of the road/park in the lot provided it's shown on the map as a green space but is just a gravel lot
4-walk up onto the dyke and continue to walk upstream for some minutes, observing countless runs/riffles/tailouts and side channels to fish in
5-proceed to fish/wade/walk/fish/wade/walk/catch fish, etc., etc., etc., until you drop
is this near the power lines - I 've seen some there
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Damn you Sam you gave my secret spot ::) ::)..... The cattle always go to the same spots and those who chose to explore will have an awesome day. If anything I am happy that everyone asks what is the best spot and just send them to Judd or the mouth of the Mamquam so I can have my spots to myself or at least fish with competent fisherman who respect this river. The spots we fish if you are snagging or disrespecting the river around you, you will be run off as you are far out numbered by people who do respect it.
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Damn you Sam you gave my secret spot ::) ::)..... The cattle always go to the same spots and those who chose to explore will have an awesome day. If anything I am happy that everyone asks what is the best spot and just send them to Judd or the mouth of the Mamquam so I can have my spots to myself or at least fish with competent fisherman who respect this river. The spots we fish if you are snagging or disrespecting the river around you, you will be run off as you are far out numbered by people who do respect it.
run off lol
why not just try to educate them first?
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If someone knows they are doing something wrong it is different Dennis, there is always a diplomatic approach to these kinds of things to start and if someone is new they will be helped with proper setup and told proper ethics. It isn't like I am some vigilante but if there is a run full of guys who are fishing responsibly and some meathead comes down there with attitude they will be told to go elsewhere. Good thing is the Squamish gets quite a few guys who fish responsibly and do take care of the river due to the lack of retention most of the time.
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There are much better spots than at Judd rd / Mamquam. The many places I fish I found by going to any river on a weekend and do a drive along the river. The parked cars and trucks are dead giveaways to new places to fish away from crowds. Get outta your cars and do some hiking, most often the walk is not long and you'll be rewarded with a new place to fish.
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Good on you bigsnag :)
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There are much better spots than at Judd rd / Mamquam. The many places I fish I found by going to any river on a weekend and do a drive along the river. The parked cars and trucks are dead giveaways to new places to fish away from crowds. Get outta your cars and do some hiking, most often the walk is not long and you'll be rewarded with a new place to fish.
That's an axiom for more than just fishing. There are some beautiful spots on the Squamish that maybe see a couple shore anglers a week and are only 20 minutes walk from teh car... that's not much more walking than the average grocery shopping trip.
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Are there many bears on Squamish these days?
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There are not many fish in the system to support a retention. I'd release every thing that I hook.
Also I saw some of the Stave's snaggers showing up on the flow today. you know the ones: bring a couple of kids so they can keep 3 fish instead of one.
Watch out for them tomorrow.
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Are there many bears on Squamish these days?
They're everywhere. ::)
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I have searching "squamish bear" in the forum. Record indicated a fishman may encounter a bear around this time of the year. Bring a Bear spray or gun for your safety!
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It's the ones that want to shave your back and do some kind of massage I'm packing for :(
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It's the ones that want to shave your back and do some kind of massage I'm packing for :(
packing eh
I have searching "squamish bear" in the forum. Record indicated a fishman may encounter a bear around this time of the year. Bring a Bear spray or gun for your safety!
lol
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I've seen more bears in my backyard than fishing at Squamish.
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I have lived in Squamish for 25 years and have fished every river here up to as many as 150 days per year. Bears, what bears? I have seen so few of them over the years that I don't even think about them when I go out. There are both grizzlies and blacks in the valley but they are predominetly nocturnal. You have bigger worries from dick heads from the city than you do from bears. Bear spray and guns you do not need. I even walk the small salmon streams on the west side of the upper Squamish doing fish counts and I don't even worry about bears there. Bears are here but certainly not an issue.
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There are definitely a few bears on the Squamish, with big grizz in some areas. That being said, every bear encounter I've had up there ends in the bear running off in a hurry. You never know though, I don't think that packing spray is a bad idea.
Btw, this thread is ridiculous. ::)
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Bring a Bear spray or gun for your safety!
As many have said and I can back it up if you fish this system with regularity you will encounter a bear mayber two or three times in a full season of steelhead, char, trout and salmon fishing. To bring a gun would be ridiculous.
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It's always good to have someone with you that can't run as fast.
I've heard the Stamp has been loaded with Bears this fall but never seen one in Squamish or Chilliwack.
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The Stamp you will see several bears a day but they are usually very mellow. More the cougars I worry about there.
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I always wear safty cap althogh no stones falling from the sky for ten years. If you do not like gun them try spray.
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I've seen more bears in my backyard than fishing at Squamish.
No kidding, I live in upper Lynn Valley and seeing bears is as common as seeing raccoons!
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I always wear safty cap althogh no stones falling from the sky for ten years. If you do not like gun them try spray.
huh?
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If you want Bears head over to the Nitnat-it's stupid how many Bears hang out there, not like up around Terrace though-that's the Bear Capitol of Canada.
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17 Sep 2009 ... A Montreal woman died Wednesday night after being mauled by a bear near La Tuque, Que.
September 2008 Sundre area, Alberta. Wagner, 48, of Didsbury, didn't return from a hunting trip to the Sundre area. The medical examiner's office says (Mr Wagner) found near Sundre was mauled to death by a bear
May 30, 2008 Near La Sarre, Quebec. Lavoie went on a solo fishing trip. After she didn't return to her cabin, her husband went looking for her. He found a bear dragging her body into the woods.
November 25, 2007 Mountain Aire Lodge west of Sundre, about 90 km northwest of Calgary. Peters, 51, did not return from a hunting trip in Western Alberta. He was killed by a grizzly near his vehicle after going hunting alone. His body was found three days later. His rifle was found nearby. It had been fired but there was nothing to indicate the bear had been hit. Officials were trying to trap the bear but would not say whether it would be killed if captured. Upon capture, the bear may be shot, moved to another area or let go, depending on an evaluation of the bear, said Alberta resources spokesman Dave Ealey
July 20, 2007 The 31-year-old woman was reported missing on July 20 after being separated from friends while mountain biking at Panorama Mountain Resort, British Columbia. She was presumably killed by a black bear who was right where the body was recovered at 8 a.m. July 21. Indications were that the bear had preyed upon this person or obviously was trying to claim ownership. The bear was shot on site by RCMP.
April 28, 2006 Fatally mauled while staking mineral claims near Ross River, Yukon, Canada. He unknowingly walked right past a bear den containing a sow and 2 cubs
September 20, 2005 Killed by a female and two cubs while he was walking back to his mining camp after his truck had a flat tire at Bowron River, British Columbia
September 6, 2005 Killed in a predatory attack at the Missinaibi Lake Provincial Park, north of Chapleau, Ontario, Canada. Her husband was seriously injured trying to protect her. Ministry staff shot and killed the bear at approximately 8:00 a.m. Saturday, September 10, 2005, near the area where the fatal attack occurred in a remote area of the park.[13][14] The bear involved had already attempted to attack two fisherman an hour before this attack occurred
August 26, 2005 Fatally mauled while picking plums at Selkirk, north of Winnipeg, Manitoba
June 23, 2005 Killed in their tent at a campsite along the Hulahula river 12 miles (19 km) upriver from Kaktovik in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
June 5, 2005 Killed while jogging with 2 friends on the Bench Trail in Canmore, Alberta
2005 Found dead in the main cabin of his fishing camp located 300 km Northeast of Ft. Smith, Northwest Territories, Canada
October 2003 Found by their pilot, dead and most of their bodies consumed at Kaflia Bay, Katmai National Park, Alaska on October 6, 2003. Treadwell was world-famous for his books and documentaries on living with wild bears in Alaska. State Troopers investigating the incident recovered an audiotape of the attack. Only a few days before, Treadwell filmed himself with the bear that killed him in the background, while commenting that it was a bear just like this one — older, struggling to bulk up for the winter — that posed the most threat to humans. The two were killed on the last night before their scheduled pickup, after spending several months in the Alaskan bush
April 17, 2003 Stalked, killed and partially consumed by a large, black bear near Waswanipi, a village in northern Quebec
September 2002 Attacked and killed at a remote oil rigging site in northeastern British Columbia
September 2002 Attacked and killed in his campsite in Gaspé region of Quebec
June 3, 2001 Attacked and killed at a rural campsite 25 km. east of Yellowknife in the Northwest Territories, Canada
July 14, 2000 His partially consumed body was found at Run Amuk campground in Hyder, Alaska
July 2, 2000 Attacked and killed while on a training run in a wooded area on a military base near Quebec City, Quebec, Canada. Coroner findings suggest victim was able to get away after initial attack but the bear caught up with her and delivered fatal claw blow to the back of the neck. It was determined that a black bear trapped by Wildlife rangers near the site of the incident shortly after the event was not the animal involved in the fatal mauling. Reasons for the attack, one of very few to occur near a large city, remain undetermined
May 2000 Killed and partially consumed by a 112-pound (51 kg) female and her 40-pound (18 kg) yearling. The attack occurred near the Goshen Prong/Little River trail junction 1.5 miles (2.4 km) upstream from Elkmont, Great Smoky Mountains near Gatlinburg, Tennessee
Aug 22, 1998 Killed by a grizzly bear on Saturday while fishing on the South Castle river about 12 miles south of the Beaver Mines campground
August 17, 1997 Died from injuries while defending herself and her 13 year old son from attack near Liard River Hotsprings, British Columbia
June 1996 Killed while checking fencelines at his rural ranch in British Columbia
July 18, 1980 Killed at Leo Creek, British Columbia, Canada while fishing with two friends[49]
May 13, 1978 All three boys were stalked and killed while fishing near Radiant Lake, Algonquin Provincial Park, Ontario, Canada[
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Fisherforever Obviously I am debating on the topic "Should we be aware of bears while fishing on Squamish?"
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I now found out a gun might be less effective than a bear spray when dealing with big ones..
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Sorry to throw this thread even more off topic, but the bear talk is very interesting.
Those examples listed above are fatalities. I'm assuming the number of non fatal attacks are much higher.
One should always be prepared to run into a bear basically anywhere in Beautiful BC. Obviously your chances of encountering a bear up north are greater. However, there are still plenty of bears around these parts. Its best to stay "bear aware" whenever enjoying the outdoors.
Personally, I have bumped into black bears in the Squamish valley a couple of times. Twice on the Mamquam during pink seasons.
My scariest bear encoutner occured on the Vedder last year. I was in the upper doing some solo fishing. I had gone on a short 5 minute walk to get away from the crowds. I could just barely see the next anglers up river. Anyhow, I was standing in the water, about 3 meters from shore.... I turn around and see a BIG black bear approx 10 meters away. I start doing the usual yelling in a loud voice, nothing. I pick up some decent sized rocks and launch them in front of the bear, nothing. In fact the bear seemed to posture up and actually approached even closer. At one point the bear was on the edge of the river bank and I was a few meters away in the water. It basically just stood there sniffing the bank and keeping an eye on me. I ended up having to walk about 100 meters up river in the water. The next anglers up saw the bear and managed to scare it far enough away that I was able to escape. About two weeks later there was a report that a bear had been shot and killed by CO's after attacking the backpack of an angler. You just never know out there.
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If you want Bears head over to the Nitnat-it's stupid how many Bears hang out there, not like up around Terrace though-that's the Bear Capitol of Canada.
Counted over twenty in less than two km's of the Nitnat this fall. The juveniles were running around in the water chasing chum all over. Quite a sight to see. You are no more likely to be mauled by a bear on the Squamish than you are on some stretches of the Vedder. Relax fish007.
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Found a few bear eaten dogs up that way, one of them was the chromest chum I've seen in the flesh also saw a semi live clawed on trying to stay upright. Have never found bears to be a problem in my limited 3 years in BC although have been up close alone a couple of times. I always keep my eyes open though!
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Counted over twenty in less than two km's of the Nitnat this fall. The juveniles were running around in the water chasing chum all over. Quite a sight to see. You are no more likely to be mauled by a bear on the Squamish than you are on some stretches of the Vedder. Relax fish007.
I fished the red spring run of Nitnat one year with some friends. One of the guys hooked a fish and followed it down toward some bushes. We saw a large black bear on the other side of the bushes and yelled at the guy to forget the fish and come right back up. He was so occupied with fighting his fish and he ignored our warning, until finally, he saw the bear himself at close range. Never seen anybody running so fast. ;D Forget about the rod and the fish. Later, the bear actually swam across the river and he then could retrieve his rod on the shore but the fish was gone. :D
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Yes it is a funny place the Nitnat. The first guy we ran into funny enough was with his dog and a shotgun. There is a place if fishing by yourself you might want to bring a gun I guess although I still think it is over kill. If it comes down to you or a fish the protein isn;t worth it in my books. I had a spring on and had a bear keep walking up the beach towards me waiting for me to land it. My buddy used a banger to ward it off. I absolutely love that river if you can get to an area where the snaggers are vacant. Fish are so aggressive its sweet.
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I now found out a gun might be less effective than a bear spray when dealing with big ones..
Stick with the spray if you feel its needed. You were starting to worry me with the guns- if you have no experience with guns, what in the heck are you doing thinking of taking one out in the woods for protection. The changes of injuring yourself are way higher than you dropping a charging bear... wait, what charging bear? Ive heard of two aggressive bear stories from fishing buddies. First, a customer of a friend's was fishing the Squamish and had a griz bluff charge him. The other was on the Nitnat where my 6'6" 350lbs friend felt threatened by a bear when it he tried to beak in on the bear's fishing spot ;D That's the sum total of genuinely aggressive bears I've heard of in tens of thousands of angler-hours fishing some pretty remote spots too.
Bring a friend if you're worried, but in reality, the chances of you getting injured in a car accident on route to the fishing spot far exceeds the chance of even seeing a bear on the Sqamish.
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Bring a friend if you're worried, but in reality, the chances of you getting injured in a car accident on route to the fishing spot far exceeds the chance of even seeing a bear on the Sqamish.
Precisely.
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The Quinsam off the Campbell River has lots of black bears during salmon season. We will be fishing and they are usually all on the other side of the river and dont even care your there.
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The Quinsam off the Campbell River has lots of black bears during salmon season. We will be fishing and they are usually all on the other side of the river and dont even care your there.
Same with the Stamp over there. The Nitnat is the only place that I have encountered really aggressive bears that wait for you to catch fish, then simply roll up and take them. I had only the one experience like this but have heard countless other stories from guys.
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Bear Safety
(from govmt site)
Bears may be encountered throughout the parks during the summer months. Although most bears are simply travelling through and make every effort to avoid humans, a bag of garbage or some unattended food on a picnic table may be irresistible to their keen sense of smell. Bears that scavenge food begin to associate food with humans, and become "food-conditioned." Food-conditioned bears lose their natural fear of humans and become a threat to park visitors as they roam through the park in search of an easy meal. Bears are not tame, gentle or cuddly; they are unpredictable and potentially dangerous.
There is little or no chance of correcting a food-conditioned bear and Park Rangers are forced to destroy them when they become aggressive towards humans. Don't be a contributor to food- conditioning and remember...
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I always wear safty cap althogh no stones falling from the sky for ten years. If you do not like gun them try spray.
huh?
I'm with dereke, what does that mean??
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Bear Safety
(from govmt site)
Bears may be encountered throughout the parks during the summer months. Although most bears are simply travelling through and make every effort to avoid humans, a bag of garbage or some unattended food on a picnic table may be irresistible to their keen sense of smell. Bears that scavenge food begin to associate food with humans, and become "food-conditioned." Food-conditioned bears lose their natural fear of humans and become a threat to park visitors as they roam through the park in search of an easy meal. Bears are not tame, gentle or cuddly; they are unpredictable and potentially dangerous.
There is little or no chance of correcting a food-conditioned bear and Park Rangers are forced to destroy them when they become aggressive towards humans. Don't be a contributor to food- conditioning and remember...
And leave your girlfriends at home too... because they attract bears too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szFO7Wo7ZCE ;D
Seriously though, I've fished the Squamish in late fall, winter, spring since I was 16 and old enough to drive. Back then, only a couple of my friends fished, and so most of the time I fished alone. Most of those days, I either walked in or walked out alone in the dark. I don't even remember last seeing a bear. Seen some of tracks, but Squamish bears don't want anything to do with you. You're way more likely to have a problem with a North Vancouver, Squamish or Whistler bear IMO.
Black bear tracks in November 08 by Ashlu
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1608/57/103/122505749/n122505749_33745655_9644.jpg)
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Sometimes the small ones can attack you too(although this is rare case). What I try to say is safety first always and always...........
Coyotes attack woman in N.S.
Last Updated: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 | 11:10 PM AT Comments143Recommend127CBC News
A 19-year-old woman was taken to hospital in critical condition after she was attacked by two coyotes Tuesday afternoon in Cape Breton Highlands National Park in northern Nova Scotia.
Provincial RCMP spokeswoman Sgt. Brigdit Leger described the victim's injuries as "very, very serious."
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Sometimes the small ones can attack you too(although this is rare case). What I try to say is safety first always and always...........
Coyotes attack woman in N.S.
Last Updated: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 | 11:10 PM AT Comments143Recommend127CBC News
A 19-year-old woman was taken to hospital in critical condition after she was attacked by two coyotes Tuesday afternoon in Cape Breton Highlands National Park in northern Nova Scotia.
Provincial RCMP spokeswoman Sgt. Brigdit Leger described the victim's injuries as "very, very serious."
fish007 with how scared it appears you are of the animals with all your apparent factual information I am surprised you leave the house. Yes things happen and we all know the risks but the risk in my opinion is worth it to get to go fish this beautiful area. Just leave the guns at home, bring a friend if you are that worried and enjoy what the Squamish has to offer, or don't actually and leave the banks all to me and the bears, wolves, cougars, coyotes, eagles, elk, deer, and fish. Sure they may attack one day but I think all of our sentiments are the same that it can happen anywhere so if you are uncomfortable don't go.
cheers
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Sometimes the small ones can attack you too(although this is rare case). What I try to say is safety first always and always...........
Coyotes attack woman in N.S.
Last Updated: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 | 11:10 PM AT Comments143Recommend127CBC News
A 19-year-old woman was taken to hospital in critical condition after she was attacked by two coyotes Tuesday afternoon in Cape Breton Highlands National Park in northern Nova Scotia.
Provincial RCMP spokeswoman Sgt. Brigdit Leger described the victim's injuries as "very, very serious."
Did you just watch the Grizzly Man or something?
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The reason why I am so aware of safety is because I have ever been to the hell at one time......
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I am wishing you guys all doing good. Just searched another old news. A old guy drowned at Cable pool months ago while fishing.
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