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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jonny 5 on November 12, 2008, 04:42:02 PM

Title: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: Jonny 5 on November 12, 2008, 04:42:02 PM
Hey all, as you may recall I am looking for a spiny dogfish for a work project.  So far no luck but I might try to catch one when I am out that way in december... anyone know how to catch these things?  I used to catch tonnes mooching herring, but I am not going to put that much money into fishing for sharks (unless my boss pays for it)  ;D

Anyone here an expert on catching them from a dock or something?

Let me know as I need to get one and so far they are hard to come by live in calgary.  ::)
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: SmokeyRiver on November 12, 2008, 04:45:51 PM
Could try out at the mouth of the capalino, I was out there the other day and they were a bit of a problem you need a boat tho...
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: Zach on November 12, 2008, 05:01:00 PM
You could try the pier Ambelside in West Van. I would catch them using shiners or herring as bait and we would usually fish for them when it was dark.
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: BigCoho on November 12, 2008, 05:10:06 PM
Troll anchovies at the coal ports
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: lucky on November 12, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
Hey Johnny if you are here in December drop me a line, Id be happy to help you get some dogfish. Like Zach mentioned Ambleside peir is the place to go when the sun goes down. Although I only fish for them in the summer months Im guessing you could catch them in the winter as well.

Big stinky chunks of herring work well, fished with a sturgeon type setup and a 3oz pyramid weight, wire leaders are a must as their teeth will slice through 50lb braid like nothing.
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: troutbreath on November 12, 2008, 05:38:00 PM
White Rock peir as well. Let us know if you end up coming and maybe we could go out in the canoe after them.
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: bentrod on November 12, 2008, 06:28:23 PM
Last time I caught them, I was mooching for salmon.  They were hanging out just a few feet deeper than the salmon.   
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: Fish Assassin on November 12, 2008, 07:28:28 PM
White Rock peir as well. Let us know if you end up coming and maybe we could go out in the canoe after them.

Fishing in a canoe in December ? Brrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: troutbreath on November 12, 2008, 08:04:35 PM
White Rock peir as well. Let us know if you end up coming and maybe we could go out in the canoe after them.

Fishing in a canoe in December ? Brrrrrrrrr

Boating like BBQing should be an all year event. I have had some killer days trolling Aloutte in December as well. Try it Mikey, you'll like it :)
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: yamadirt 426 on November 12, 2008, 08:37:17 PM
White Rock peir as well. Let us know if you end up coming and maybe we could go out in the canoe after them.

have you tried this in winter TB ?  I would like a go on them as I've only caught them in point roberts
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: Camman on November 12, 2008, 08:56:51 PM
trout breath, were you out this summer? I was fishing them on the rocks and a boat only one this year, last year about 11-15 of them. I get a bullhead stomp it so its nice and smelly and sit it on the bottom, some times you get some huge crabs that way to.
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: Fishin_Squirrel10-4 on November 12, 2008, 11:24:06 PM
furry creek or anywhere near there, theres tons of dogfish. led, trebble hook with a wire leader, put on chicken or anything and toss and leave it. your bound to catch 10
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: Jonny 5 on November 13, 2008, 07:38:16 AM
Wow, thanks for the offers and tips.  I am waiting to hear back from an aquarium supplier here, but don't know if that will turn out.  If not, I forsee a fishing trip for the great white dogfish this december. ;D

Jon
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: Bhinky on November 13, 2008, 08:18:06 AM
You are going to put it in an aquarium?
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: Jonny 5 on November 13, 2008, 01:35:48 PM
Nah, I am going to get some blood, thymus, liver, kidney and a few other tissues (maybe pituitary, and other brain stuff), and determine if certain immune related genes are expressed in different cell types.  If they are resricted, then I will add it to a paper that I am working on.

that, and shark steaks..  ;D
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: BwiBwi on November 13, 2008, 01:41:15 PM
That would be a very interesting find.  Working of new antibiotic source?
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: Jonny 5 on November 13, 2008, 04:49:02 PM
Not a new antibiotic, but trying to figure out where a certain family of genes came from.  In humans and mice and other mammals, these genes are involved in amplifying the signals when a foreign particle is detected by a single immune cell.  In sharks, it would be good enough to show that they are expresed in similar cell types.

We figured out that these genes go back to species as ancient as sharks (and everything in between) but not anything before that (like bacteria, protostomes, even jawless fish like hagfish or even fish like ratfish a close relative of the shark), and now want to see if it expressed in immune cells and organs that generate those cells.  I think its interesting that these genes just appeared in sharks, which is coincidentally (or maybe not?) where the true adaptive immune system first appeared.  My bet is that some of those genes are going to be restricted to immune cells, but only will be sure when I do the experiments.

In humans, one of these genes has proven to be an extremely effective drug target in treating a variety of human lympoma and leukemias and is also very promising in a variety of auto-immune diseases, so one of my ultimate goals is to identify other related genes that might be of use in other disease conditions.   The actual shark work will be part of my background for my thesis, but thats the fun thing about science.  You never know where it will lead.

Science = fishing and shark steaks  ;D 
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: BwiBwi on November 13, 2008, 09:27:48 PM
Genetics sure has came a long way.  20 years ago we were still working on mapping it's sequence.  :o
Isn't adaptive immune system also in sturgeons?  And isn't sturgeons older than shark?
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: meatfisherman on November 13, 2008, 09:46:35 PM
jig with anything
or use any kind of dead shellfish
Title: Re: dog fish - any expert shark fishers on board?
Post by: younggun on November 13, 2008, 11:00:09 PM
any junk lowpro bass reel, a bass flipping stick, 50lb fireline, a 2oz betty, wire leader and a live shiner, let the fish swim around, leave about 2 1/2 feet from ur betty to the shiner, guys absolutely killing them at the jericho beach pier, one every cast.