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Save BC Parks (not much time)
« on: August 09, 2006, 01:15:26 AM »

Hello people,

 

If you care about the future of BC Parks read this article. http://media.wildernesscommittee.org/news/2006/07/2013.php

 

 The BC Liberals want to open up our parks to "resort developers" who could build within our beautiful parks "hotels with more than 100 rooms and helipads". "According to the government documents resorts of this scale typically “include pools, tennis courts, ski hills and/or golf courses.”  This would clearly ruin the wilderness experience of any BC Park, not to mention any ecological values these protected areas posses.  The government believes that they can simply just move forward with private development in BC Parks without asking for the public what they think first.  No public consultation....last I checked, this was in fact a democracy!!  If you don't make your voice heard soon, the government will allow private corperations to exploit BC Parks for their own financial interests.

 

If you disagree with this policy make sure your elected officials know it.  Their position will not change if there is no public opposition. 

 

Write a letter to:

 

Priemer Gordon Campbell: gordon.campbell.mla@leg.bc.ca

Environment Minister Barry Penner: barry.penner.mla@leg.bc.ca

As well as you local MLA: http://www.bcliberals.com/EN/499/   
,and local newpapers

 

Pass this e-mail on to others

Thanks,

Mike Wiskar

www.savecoquitlamriver.com

 

Just a few of the many Parks slated for deveopment (with pictures):

 

1) Mount Robson (Jasper)

 http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explore/parkpgs/mt_robs/photogal/mt_robs_gal.html

 

2) Mout Assiniboine (Kooteney)http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explore/parkpgs/mt_assin/photogal/mt_assini_gal.html

 

3) Cape Scott (Northern Vancouver Island) http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explore/parkpgs/cape_sct/photogal/capesct_gal.html

 

4) Wells Grey (Cariboo) http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explore/parkpgs/wels_gry/photogal/wells_gray_gal.html

 

5) Golden Ears (Lower Mainland) etc etc

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Re: Save BC Parks (not much time)
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2006, 01:31:06 AM »

Mike, don't get ahead of me everytime. ;)

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishy_news/060809_1.html

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Re: Save BC Parks (not much time)
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2006, 02:17:31 AM »

This news was on Vancouver Sun last week.  The main reason seems to be aimed to accomodate the aging group.  The idea was 'recommanded' to park board by some 50~60 year olds that said in a few year they will not be able to sleep in tents, but they would still want to enjoy BC parks. 

Personally I think a small resort like the one at Manning park is acceptable.
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Re: Save BC Parks (not much time)
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2006, 08:18:12 AM »

It's difficult to determine from media releases what the government has in mind. The lastest in phrase is "fixed roof structure," whatever the hell they are. If the plan is to allow facilities such as those currently at Manning and Yellowstone (two examples) I support the idea. If the plan is to allow open commercialism with no guidelines, no supervision of services, no environmental protection, etc, etc., then I am dead against. I will be discussing the above with my MLA.
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Re: Save BC Parks (not much time)
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2006, 08:53:04 AM »

 :o thanx for the heads up terry i could not agree with you more. if its kept small and supervised fine but not some huge expansion no way  ;D
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Re: Save BC Parks (not much time)
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2006, 12:17:14 PM »

Accommodating an aging population is not the real reason the BC Liberals want to open up BC Parks for development.  This is their attempt to make parks more profitable.  They first tried this by installing parking meters in Parks.  This resulted in a 20 percent decrease in park attendance by the general public.  This new plan is not about accommodating an aging population who do not want to sleep in tents; it is about privatizing our public parks.  The private corporations who win the bid to develop in BC Parks will be operating on a strictly profit basis.  They won't care who attends the parks, as long as they have lots of money to spend.  This will obviously degrade our beautiful parks and turn them into money making machines for private corporations.


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Re: Save BC Parks (not much time)
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2006, 12:22:45 PM »

Watch, it will always be about money!
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Re: Save BC Parks (not much time)
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2006, 01:09:36 PM »

Sorry Rodney  ;D
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Re: Save BC Parks (not much time)
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2006, 04:18:44 PM »

Which corporations?  I think there needs to be more information at this point before I would fire off a complaint letter.  In fact, the information presented seems to present a beneficial idea.  I would like to  see more attention brought to some of the local parks.  I don't mind having to share the parks with seniors or richie riches who can afford to stay in a hotel or cabin or whatever fixed roof structure they are proposing.  However, I would be against any major development in the parks that would resemble a small scale whistler.  Any proof that this is going to end up being a disaster for the parks?  Any proof that there is intent to build anything more than some cabins or simple accomadations?  Please keep us posted if you see these things as I am interested.

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Jon

Accommodating an aging population is not the real reason the BC Liberals want to open up BC Parks for development.  This is their attempt to make parks more profitable.  They first tried this by installing parking meters in Parks.  This resulted in a 20 percent decrease in park attendance by the general public.  This new plan is not about accommodating an aging population who do not want to sleep in tents; it is about privatizing our public parks.  The private corporations who win the bid to develop in BC Parks will be operating on a strictly profit basis.  They won't care who attends the parks, as long as they have lots of money to spend.  This will obviously degrade our beautiful parks and turn them into money making machines for private corporations.



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Re: Save BC Parks (not much time)
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2006, 05:51:24 PM »


The Western Canada Wilderness Committee obtained government documents through the freedom of information act which state the BC governments plan to allow development of;  “major resorts” within park boundaries. According to the government documents resorts of this scale typically “include pools, tennis courts, ski hills and/or golf courses.” 

see: http://media.wildernesscommittee.org/news/2006/07/2013.php

I have also talked to NDP MLA's and they have confirmed the Liberals plans for "resort development".

I agree with you that you need the full story before sending off a letter to the government, however all I can say is this plan is very real.  The government does not want to consult the public on this issue because they know the public will oppose it (i will attach a political poll that was recently done by an independent pollster on this issue).  So if you disagree with this policy it is imperative that you let your elected officials know.



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Re: Save BC Parks (not much time)
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2006, 05:53:28 PM »

August 3, 2006

 

ROBBINS Sce Research (1998)

www.robbinssceresearch.com

 

For immediate Release  “BC Liberals Bungle in The Jungle”

 

Question #1-Do either you or anyone in your family make us of BC parks and or campsites during the summer holidays or at any other time of the year?  Yes-44%; No-56%

 

Question #2-In your opinion should BC citizens be made to pay fees for using parks and or campsites in the province?  Yes-72%; No-28%

 

Question #3-In your opinion should the BC Liberal government permit high end private for profit developments, including hotels, lodges, with potential for helicopter and float plane traffic, to be built inside designated BC parks?  Yes-18%; No-83%

 

Question #4-In your opinion who should be given preference when developing inside designated BC parks?  (a) Foreign Corporations-0%; BC Corporations-26%; BC and/or Canadian Corporations-8%; Any Corporation with the best bid-0%; No Corporation should be permitted to develop inside BC Parks-66%

 

 

Facts and Inferences:  Slightly less than one half of British Columbians indicated that they or someone in their family make use of BC parks and campsites during the summer. or at other times during the year.  The majority of respondents who make use of these facilities are between voting age and 40, although many in the ‘over 40’ age make use of parks and campsites as well.

 

A majority of respondents believe it is appropriate to pay fees, however there is a strong belief that these fees are used specifically for parks maintenance etc.

 

Question #3 reveals that there is very little appetite amongst British Columbians for ‘high end’ private for profit developments inside BC parks.  Question #4 (which presumes ‘go ahead’ with development inside parks) confirms that it is unlikely that there is any appetite for development inside BC parks, even when they are considered as simple ‘lodges’ and not high-end hotels and other which according to Freedom of Information documents are planned as well.

 

Commentary (with permission to treat the government as hostile)-
 

Respondents in this ROBBINS poll are happy with BC parks and campsites as they are.  Respondents believe there are hotels and lodges a plenty for people to go to, and not see the need for any further development in public parks.

 

Some respondents informed ROBBINS that they actually moved to the province because of our wonderful parks and were mortified at the thought of hotels, automobiles and parking lots being scattered throughout the province.

 

There is little resistance to fees in BC parks, including amongst those respondents whose families will be using the parks this summer.  Most respondents who disagree with fees are not supportive of development inside parks.

 

It is difficult to understand why the BC Liberal Environment Minister would have oversight over tourism and development.  There appears to be no more appetite for this BC Liberal privatization proposal as there was for the BC Liberal government’s attempt to hijack assets from the BC public and sell it to their friends.

 

Considering the regions of the province where the BC Liberals have suggested they would like to construct these accommodations, such as the Okanagan and Peace River regions, there is more acceptance of the proposal, but this is amongst men more than women.  The latter are most overwhelmingly against these developments.   Indeed other proposed sites such as Maple Ridge, the Cariboo and the Kootenays do not support the proposed development.  The suburbs in the lower mainland, on Vancouver Island, and in Victoria proper and Vancouver proper are also dead set against the proposal of developments inside parks.

 

One respondent sarcastically noted that given the BC Liberals ‘history’ of respecting public opinion, they might also consider potential fees from some tourists and other high rollers to “urinate on campers and wildlife from hotel balcony’s purely for the sport of it.”

 

ROBBINS asks “is this an effort by the BC Liberals to swap property owned by all British Columbians in return for commercial rights to BC Liberal friendly Corporations.”

 

One clear example of this type of apparently self-interested effort currently underway with the BC Liberals is the approval by Port Moody city council (by virtue of a tie-breaker vote by BC Liberal Port Moody Mayor Joe Trasolini) to place a large commercial project owned by a Corporation with financial ties to the BC Liberals and to Howe Street money, right in the middle of a public park which has been used for years by families in the region.  This commercial project is not likely to target families as their main customers, particularly those with young children.  These facilities will also hold liquor licenses, which would mean more people who have been drinking alcohol in public places where young families who are not using that facility might also be playing.

 

ROBBINS insiders are now suggesting that this most recent BC Liberal move is a last gasp attempt by the Campbell Liberals to swap BC property for favours and donations before giving in to financial reforms desperately needed by that party specifically.  More cynical observations suggest greater scrutiny of politicians ‘net worth’ from year to year would be a good idea.

 

A random sample of 500 British Columbians between July 31, and August 3, 2006.  This ROBBINS poll features a margin of error of 5.25%, 18 times out of 20 @95% competency (confidence).  This poll was financed in part by New Trend Optical of Port Coquitlam British Columbia-Jim Van Rassel proprietor (604) 942-9300.

 

 

Glen P. Robbins

 

 

(604) 942-3757

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