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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rodney on May 02, 2005, 02:55:55 PM

Title: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: Rodney on May 02, 2005, 02:55:55 PM
Just received a phone call from DFO today, and I have been informed that it is actually illegal to dig up ditch eels in a ditch.

There will be a notice of it in the regulation updates sometimes later on this week.
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: Fish Assassin on May 02, 2005, 03:05:58 PM
Any reason why ?
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: Rodney on May 02, 2005, 03:09:49 PM
Not really. Apparently it has always been illegal but wasn't heavily enforced as not many people are doing it. But now, everyone is out digging up all these ditches... apparently, so....
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: Fish Assassin on May 02, 2005, 03:26:56 PM
Wonder how DFO is going to enforce this new regulation
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: roeman on May 02, 2005, 04:32:58 PM
If you look close ditch eels have gills... so they are considered to be a fish or something along that line, that is the reason it is illegal.. Pretty sure
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: DragonSpeed on May 02, 2005, 04:58:44 PM
Are ditches tidal?  Shouldn't that be MWLAP?
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: leadbelly on May 02, 2005, 08:51:48 PM
good news for the Alouette
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: Rodney on May 02, 2005, 09:56:06 PM
Are ditches tidal?  Shouldn't that be MWLAP?

Probably because the digging ruins salmon habitat.
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: Gooey on May 03, 2005, 09:50:47 AM
So can you trap them or harvest them in a manner that isnt detrimentl to their ecosystem? ... the operative word is "dig".
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: leaseman on May 03, 2005, 12:35:19 PM
Ditch/Lamprey eels are protcted here in B.C. for a long time...The ones sold by bait/tackle stores are "suppose" to be imported from Washington state, packaged and labelled down there...don't know why they are protected...Maybe it's their beauty.... ;D

Most stores used to have them to sell but lately I have been told by a couple of stores that they get their bait checked weekely by the "boys"


Mike

P.S. does anyone have any ditch eels for sale!!
   PM me......
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: Rodney on May 03, 2005, 01:36:45 PM
More information, this is from WLAP:

The "ditch eels" are lamprey, and are likely ammocoetes, which is the juvenile phase.  However, sturgeon anglers also use adult lamprey.  We have three different lamprey species that potentially inhabit the lower Fraser River, including river lamprey (Lampetra ayresi), Pacific lamprey (Entosphenus tridentatus) and western brook lamprey (Lampetra richardsoni).  Pacific and Western Brook are the more common.  River and Pacific lamprey are anadromous and parasitic as adults, while western brook lamprey rear, mature and spawn in freshwater and are non-parasitic.  Lamprey are a finfish, and as such the capture of lamprey is subject to the BC Sport Fishing Regulations.  They must be captured by angling while in the possession of a current non-tidal license; they must be used only dead for bait; they must not be transported live, and they must not be bartered with or sold.  There is presently no limit on the capture of any of the above three species for personal use.
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: Fish Assassin on May 03, 2005, 02:03:36 PM
So does anyone know how to "angle" for lampreys ? What bait, where ?
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: Rodney on May 04, 2005, 01:24:51 AM
Sturgeon bait related news

Fraser River Eulachon test fishery result (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishy_news/050504.html)
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: rob.l on May 04, 2005, 08:38:52 AM
WoW :o
What a drop in numbers.......
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: Rodney on May 09, 2005, 09:12:42 AM
The official notice is out today:

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=78750&ID=recreational
Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: chris gadsden on May 09, 2005, 09:47:39 AM
Not that I disagree with this regulation but I find it interesting that ditch cleaning with machinery goes on in these same ditches. Where is FOC then to enforce this regulation? I realize that ditches need to be cleaned for the drainage of farm land in the Fraser Valley but once again it is at the expense of our environment.

I have examined these piles of mud in dump sites and have found these same ditch eels, frogs, salamanders, fresh water clams, etc. Also one ditch that was dug has a late Fall run of coho in it also so I am sure fish are destroyed in this process as well.

Title: Re: Ditch eels - Sturgeon fishers, please read.
Post by: allwaysfishin on May 09, 2005, 01:22:14 PM
we have been using smelt for sturgies and they have been workin great!!!